Tiger Mums: Strict parents demanding greatness from their kids

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Anonymous wrote:I put a large premium on academics. I expect perfect grades. My kids are smart and they put in very little effort compared to their Asian counterparts in Asia. I don’t consider myself a tiger parent. We host lots of play dates, parties, travel often and I put high value on happiness.

Did you ever think…what does that do for Asian countries? I mean, birth rates are nonexistent, economies are stagnant, very little entrepreneurship, etc.

Life generally sucks in these Asian countries…yet, let’s just keep doing what we are doing.

Taiwan, SK, Japan are amazing places to live.

Yeah, China and Vietnam less so, but that’s mostly communism

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Anonymous wrote:I put a large premium on academics. I expect perfect grades. My kids are smart and they put in very little effort compared to their Asian counterparts in Asia. I don’t consider myself a tiger parent. We host lots of play dates, parties, travel often and I put high value on happiness.

Did you ever think…what does that do for Asian countries? I mean, birth rates are nonexistent, economies are stagnant, very little entrepreneurship, etc.

Life generally sucks in these Asian countries…yet, let’s just keep doing what we are doing.

I’ve travelled in Asia.

I have to ask you honestly: WTF are you talking about?!?

Life does not “generally suck” in Asia (as you put it).

So, because you visited as a tourist…that’s your answer? Why do Korea, China and Japan have abysmally low birth rates? Why are their economies stagnant?

Japan is going to lose 40% of its population by 2100…China nearly 60%.

Sound like great places to you?

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Italy is right up there with low birth rate, and is a fabulous place to live.

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Anonymous wrote:I Tiger Parented my kid with special needs and global developmental delay into a decent college. I am very proud of him.

This. DH was a speech delayed, HFASD kid who was tigered into an ivy undergrad and law school. It can be done. But their mistake was neglecting his EQ.

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Anonymous wrote:I put a large premium on academics. I expect perfect grades. My kids are smart and they put in very little effort compared to their Asian counterparts in Asia. I don’t consider myself a tiger parent. We host lots of play dates, parties, travel often and I put high value on happiness.

Did you ever think…what does that do for Asian countries? I mean, birth rates are nonexistent, economies are stagnant, very little entrepreneurship, etc.

Life generally sucks in these Asian countries…yet, let’s just keep doing what we are doing.

I’ve travelled in Asia.

I have to ask you honestly: WTF are you talking about?!?

Life does not “generally suck” in Asia (as you put it).

So, because you visited as a tourist…that’s your answer? Why do Korea, China and Japan have abysmally low birth rates? Why are their economies stagnant?

Japan is going to lose 40% of its population by 2100…China nearly 60%.

Sound like great places to you?

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Italy is right up there with low birth rate, and is a fabulous place to live.

NP. It’s not actually. Speaking as someone who has actually lived in Italy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I put a large premium on academics. I expect perfect grades. My kids are smart and they put in very little effort compared to their Asian counterparts in Asia. I don’t consider myself a tiger parent. We host lots of play dates, parties, travel often and I put high value on happiness.

Did you ever think…what does that do for Asian countries? I mean, birth rates are nonexistent, economies are stagnant, very little entrepreneurship, etc.

Life generally sucks in these Asian countries…yet, let’s just keep doing what we are doing.

I’ve travelled in Asia.

I have to ask you honestly: WTF are you talking about?!?

Life does not “generally suck” in Asia (as you put it).

So, because you visited as a tourist…that’s your answer? Why do Korea, China and Japan have abysmally low birth rates? Why are their economies stagnant?

Japan is going to lose 40% of its population by 2100…China nearly 60%.

Sound like great places to you?

np. I've lived in Japan. It's a fantastic place to live. Life does not suck there. There are a lot of reasons for low birth rates, just like there are a lot of reasons why the share of Americans who will never have children is also rising.

Also, no, Japan is not going to lose 40% of it's population by 2100. That 40% number is a prediction based on Japan's current population trajectory. Immigration reform is hotly contested now, but the country isn't full of idiots. When push comes to shove, sometime before 2100, it'll happen. And guess what? Lot's of people want to immigrate to Japan. Most people don't agree with your assessment on life sucking there.

[Anonymous]

She so stupid with her low birth rate

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I put a large premium on academics. I expect perfect grades. My kids are smart and they put in very little effort compared to their Asian counterparts in Asia. I don’t consider myself a tiger parent. We host lots of play dates, parties, travel often and I put high value on happiness.

Did you ever think…what does that do for Asian countries? I mean, birth rates are nonexistent, economies are stagnant, very little entrepreneurship, etc.

Life generally sucks in these Asian countries…yet, let’s just keep doing what we are doing.

countries with the worst quality of life often have the highest birth rates and vice versa. people get spoiled and don't see the point of having kids. this has nothing to do with tiger parenting.

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Anonymous wrote:I put a large premium on academics. I expect perfect grades. My kids are smart and they put in very little effort compared to their Asian counterparts in Asia. I don’t consider myself a tiger parent. We host lots of play dates, parties, travel often and I put high value on happiness.

Did you ever think…what does that do for Asian countries? I mean, birth rates are nonexistent, economies are stagnant, very little entrepreneurship, etc.

Life generally sucks in these Asian countries…yet, let’s just keep doing what we are doing.

I’ve travelled in Asia.

I have to ask you honestly: WTF are you talking about?!?

Life does not “generally suck” in Asia (as you put it).

So, because you visited as a tourist…that’s your answer? Why do Korea, China and Japan have abysmally low birth rates? Why are their economies stagnant?

Japan is going to lose 40% of its population by 2100…China nearly 60%.

Sound like great places to you?

np. I've lived in Japan. It's a fantastic place to live. Life does not suck there. There are a lot of reasons for low birth rates, just like there are a lot of reasons why the share of Americans who will never have children is also rising.

Also, no, Japan is not going to lose 40% of it's population by 2100. That 40% number is a prediction based on Japan's current population trajectory. Immigration reform is hotly contested now, but the country isn't full of idiots. When push comes to shove, sometime before 2100, it'll happen. And guess what? Lot's of people want to immigrate to Japan. Most people don't agree with your assessment on life sucking there.

That’s a ton of guessing…I doubt Japan will allow enough immigration to offset even 10% of the population loss.

Life in Japan is great if you are an expat with $$$s….not so much for native-borns. WSJ profiled medical workers moving to Australia because they can earn much more waiting tables.

There are countless articles about how everyone hates the parenting rat race in these countries where it’s just high test scores to nowhere…high youth unemployment, depressed kids, etc.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I put a large premium on academics. I expect perfect grades. My kids are smart and they put in very little effort compared to their Asian counterparts in Asia. I don’t consider myself a tiger parent. We host lots of play dates, parties, travel often and I put high value on happiness.

Did you ever think…what does that do for Asian countries? I mean, birth rates are nonexistent, economies are stagnant, very little entrepreneurship, etc.

Life generally sucks in these Asian countries…yet, let’s just keep doing what we are doing.

I’ve travelled in Asia.

I have to ask you honestly: WTF are you talking about?!?

Life does not “generally suck” in Asia (as you put it).

So, because you visited as a tourist…that’s your answer? Why do Korea, China and Japan have abysmally low birth rates? Why are their economies stagnant?

Japan is going to lose 40% of its population by 2100…China nearly 60%.

Sound like great places to you?

np. I've lived in Japan. It's a fantastic place to live. Life does not suck there. There are a lot of reasons for low birth rates, just like there are a lot of reasons why the share of Americans who will never have children is also rising.

Also, no, Japan is not going to lose 40% of it's population by 2100. That 40% number is a prediction based on Japan's current population trajectory. Immigration reform is hotly contested now, but the country isn't full of idiots. When push comes to shove, sometime before 2100, it'll happen. And guess what? Lot's of people want to immigrate to Japan. Most people don't agree with your assessment on life sucking there.

Japan is off the charts racist against immigrants. US isn't even close.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I Tiger Parented my kid with special needs and global developmental delay into a decent college. I am very proud of him.

This. DH was a speech delayed, HFASD kid who was tigered into an ivy undergrad and law school. It can be done. But their mistake was neglecting his EQ.

What is "neglecting EQ"?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I put a large premium on academics. I expect perfect grades. My kids are smart and they put in very little effort compared to their Asian counterparts in Asia. I don’t consider myself a tiger parent. We host lots of play dates, parties, travel often and I put high value on happiness.

Enjoy the anxiety you are creating. You ‘expect perfect grades’. Yeah, that’ll serve you well.

Put kid in low expectation, high inflation classes, problem solved.

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Anonymous wrote:I put a large premium on academics. I expect perfect grades. My kids are smart and they put in very little effort compared to their Asian counterparts in Asia. I don’t consider myself a tiger parent. We host lots of play dates, parties, travel often and I put high value on happiness.

Did you ever think…what does that do for Asian countries? I mean, birth rates are nonexistent, economies are stagnant, very little entrepreneurship, etc.

Life generally sucks in these Asian countries…yet, let’s just keep doing what we are doing.

I’ve travelled in Asia.

I have to ask you honestly: WTF are you talking about?!?

Life does not “generally suck” in Asia (as you put it).

So, because you visited as a tourist…that’s your answer? Why do Korea, China and Japan have abysmally low birth rates? Why are their economies stagnant?

Japan is going to lose 40% of its population by 2100…China nearly 60%.

Sound like great places to you?

np. I've lived in Japan. It's a fantastic place to live. Life does not suck there. There are a lot of reasons for low birth rates, just like there are a lot of reasons why the share of Americans who will never have children is also rising.

Also, no, Japan is not going to lose 40% of it's population by 2100. That 40% number is a prediction based on Japan's current population trajectory. Immigration reform is hotly contested now, but the country isn't full of idiots. When push comes to shove, sometime before 2100, it'll happen. And guess what? Lot's of people want to immigrate to Japan. Most people don't agree with your assessment on life sucking there.

That’s a ton of guessing…I doubt Japan will allow enough immigration to offset even 10% of the population loss.

Life in Japan is great if you are an expat with $$$s….not so much for native-borns. WSJ profiled medical workers moving to Australia because they can earn much more waiting tables.

There are countless articles about how everyone hates the parenting rat race in these countries where it’s just high test scores to nowhere…high youth unemployment, depressed kids, etc.

+1. Did anyone watch the video? These were Asians that moved to Australia.

If life is so great in your Asian country and this cram school culture is so amazing…please, go back.

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Can't there be a happy medium where parents expect As and Bs with the exception of learning difficulties and generally have high expectations for behavior, morality sports and fun? Watch a couple of 50s to 70s sitcoms and you get the idea of what TV did to try to model good parenting. I feel like in America there is either permissive or strict parenting.

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I don't quite understand about the Asian culture with countless hours of practicing piano and violin. As an Asian male, I had to practice piano & violin from the age of five until I turned twelve years old. At that point, I told my mother that I didn't want to do it anymore, and ran away from home. My mother finally relented and reluctantly told me I did not have to practice piano & violin anymore. I fell in love with the guitar and practiced everyday for two hours. My own mother thought the guitar was such a ghetto instrument for lower-class people. Typical thinking of a chinese mother. When I went to UCLA, that guitar got me so many girls, and built up my confidence while a typical piano/violin dork got none. That guitar has opened so many doors for me to this day. More people know about "Stairway to heaven" than a very difficult Chopin piece.

[Anonymous]

It is not easy to be a Tiger Parent. Demanding greatness from your kids gets you nothing unless you also put in the time in their education and create a conducive household for them.

And Tiger parenting starts from birth. You expose your kids daily to reading, recognizing patterns, on language, music exposure etc. At the same time you are maintaining a peaceful, well run, functional household.

The reason the Western cultures do not do Tiger parenting is because then they will then have to do the heavy lifting to become such parents. It is easier to let your kids raise themselves and neglect academics.