Post election concerns

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump and his minions already tried a coup once. I have no doubt they will try again and do better because of lessons learned in the last cycle.

I hope our institutions are up to the task.

Your lack of self-awareness is laughable. Who stormed the Capitol? Who engaged in an insurrection? Who vandalized federal property? Who has been sentenced for the January 6th acts? Not leftists!

We have the summer of 2020 to see what havoc the left can cause to the country.
I have no doubt they will pull some of the same crap if Trump wins again.

We had Portland on the news every night. That was unambiguous. But it’s amazing how quickly people have forgotten the Inauguration Day violence. It’s been memory holed like Democrats election denialism.

[Anonymous]

I think scattered incidents of violence on election day will happen.

I don't think you will have another January 6th - Capitol Police/Congress aren't going to be caught unprepared like that again. I think it's very likely the city will be on some level of lockdown.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've been through a few coups and formerly worked on political transitions in my day job. There are troubling signs as we approach the presidential election in November. Should I send my kids back to college with their passport card? To date, they've left their passports at home for safekeeping. Should I start carrying my card in my wallet?

I'm not looking to relocate permanently but be able to leave if necessary.

Of course, Canada may simply shut the border, even with proper documents, so there's that.

Just go to Texas, get close to the border and walk backward to Mexico. No one will notice.

+1. Exactly. Good riddance.

I never understood this position. So if someone is concerned about what would happen/their concerns are different than yours, your only rec is to go away? How patriotic!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump and his minions already tried a coup once. I have no doubt they will try again and do better because of lessons learned in the last cycle.

I hope our institutions are up to the task.

Your lack of self-awareness is laughable. Who stormed the Capitol? Who engaged in an insurrection? Who vandalized federal property? Who has been sentenced for the January 6th acts? Not leftists!

We have the summer of 2020 to see what havoc the left can cause to the country.
I have no doubt they will pull some of the same crap if Trump wins again.

We had Portland on the news every night. That was unambiguous. But it’s amazing how quickly people have forgotten the Inauguration Day violence. It’s been memory holed like Democrats election denialism.

What Inauguration Day violence?

[Anonymous]

Canada would be the best choice if Europe is not an option.

We are going to move back to the Netherlands after our kids finish middle school next year. This country is crazy and it’s only going to get worse if Trump wins.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Canada would be the best choice if Europe is not an option.

We are going to move back to the Netherlands after our kids finish middle school next year. This country is crazy and it’s only going to get worse if Trump wins.

Ah yes, move back to the Netherlands to escape the US so that you can be governed by a right wing Christian coalition government that is anti-abortion, with the largest party by votes being right wing populists who were kept out of government as a compromise due to their racism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s interesting OP. The people-like myself-who have witnessed or come from places with semi recent history of political unrest, feel uneasy about the elections. Many Americans are like “silly people, it would never happen here.” But it can happen. It has happened throughout history. I have no idea how to prepare though? I mean I’m worried with either result but some of the language used by a certain person and his supporters raise all sorts of alarms. Like big, red, blaring alarms. His supporters would say I’m a snow flake leftist for saying it but I’m really not. And Btw-having an American passport means what exactly? That you can just flee to wherever you would like? It’s not how it works.

Thanks for responding. Concur with you. It is troubling to see so many on autopilot.

For the last part, I didn't say passport, I said passport card. And I didn't say anywhere but I indicated to Canada (can travel over land with the card into Canada) and that might not even be a bet by the time I was able to get there. I spent a large portion of my professional career working with refugees so am fairly familiar with how this process works. Trudeau might leave the border open for folks with docs or he could shut it all down the moment Trump attempted to deploy the National Guard around the States.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think there is the strong potential for political violence no matter who wins in November. Lots of evidence, both recently and over Trump administration, that left affiliated groups are prone to using violence to achieve their ends.

Do you have cites for the use of violence by left affiliated groups? Antifa on J6 is not a correct answer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump and his minions already tried a coup once. I have no doubt they will try again and do better because of lessons learned in the last cycle.

I hope our institutions are up to the task.

Your lack of self-awareness is laughable. Who stormed the Capitol? Who engaged in an insurrection? Who vandalized federal property? Who has been sentenced for the January 6th acts? Not leftists!

We have the summer of 2020 to see what havoc the left can cause to the country.
I have no doubt they will pull some of the same crap if Trump wins again.

Did they storm a state capitol, the US Capitol? Did they attempt to kidnap/lynch elected officials?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've been through a few coups and formerly worked on political transitions in my day job. There are troubling signs as we approach the presidential election in November. Should I send my kids back to college with their passport card? To date, they've left their passports at home for safekeeping. Should I start carrying my card in my wallet?

I'm not looking to relocate permanently but be able to leave if necessary.

Of course, Canada may simply shut the border, even with proper documents, so there's that.

Think through this, OP.
What would your kids do? Where would they go? What is your plan? What would be the "trigger" to instruct them to put these plans into place?

I think you are not thinking rationally.

Duh. We had a plan when we were all in the same city and now I am exploring a plan for a threat from within, especially now that they are in college.

How is this not thinking rationally?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think there is the strong potential for political violence no matter who wins in November. Lots of evidence, both recently and over Trump administration, that left affiliated groups are prone to using violence to achieve their ends.

Do you have cites for the use of violence by left affiliated groups? Antifa on J6 is not a correct answer.

Are you joking? They burned down a police precinct in Minneapolis and held a federal courthouse under siege in Portland for months while assaulting police officers on a nightly basis? You don’t remember this or are you just being daft.

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2022/05/27/2-years-after-it-burned-no-clear-path-forward-for-minneapolis-3rd-precinct-site

[Anonymous]

Honestly, Biden's numbers are not good so my husband and I are reluctantly preparing for a Trump win. I don't think there will be any violence but we're months away.

What are you going to do after crossing into Canada, exactly? Apply for asylum?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've been through a few coups and formerly worked on political transitions in my day job. There are troubling signs as we approach the presidential election in November. Should I send my kids back to college with their passport card? To date, they've left their passports at home for safekeeping. Should I start carrying my card in my wallet?

I'm not looking to relocate permanently but be able to leave if necessary.

Of course, Canada may simply shut the border, even with proper documents, so there's that.

Just go to Texas, get close to the border and walk backward to Mexico. No one will notice.

FWIW, my flag is always flying right side up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump and his minions already tried a coup once. I have no doubt they will try again and do better because of lessons learned in the last cycle.

I hope our institutions are up to the task.

Your lack of self-awareness is laughable. Who stormed the Capitol? Who engaged in an insurrection? Who vandalized federal property? Who has been sentenced for the January 6th acts? Not leftists!

We have the summer of 2020 to see what havoc the left can cause to the country.
I have no doubt they will pull some of the same crap if Trump wins again.

Did they storm a state capitol, the US Capitol? Did they attempt to kidnap/lynch elected officials?

Didn't they throw fireworks at police?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think scattered incidents of violence on election day will happen.

I don't think you will have another January 6th - Capitol Police/Congress aren't going to be caught unprepared like that again. I think it's very likely the city will be on some level of lockdown.

The difference b/t then and now is that House and Senate were under Democratic control. IDK what will happen with a split legislature. I lack confidence in the House GOP to make the right calls.