Lottery data with June offer numbers is up

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:EA at BASIS is going to be a disaster.


You said the quiet part out loud. Why do you assume that kids who are economically disadvantaged are dumb and/or can't apply themselves? Why do you assume they don't have or can't develop executive functioning? Some of these 10 and 11 year old kids have already dealt with more sh*t in their lives than you will ever know and they are still in the game fighting to succeed. EA preferences are designed precisely for this reason; to ensure kids who more than many others need a solid educational footing have access.


DP. My understanding of the Basis model is that it would take a lot of support at home to catch up academically and pass the tests. If the kids are coming in behind and Basis keeps its “up or out” approach, we’re gonna see a disproportionate number of EA kids dropping out.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:EA at BASIS is going to be a disaster.


That's not really fair. Being disadvantaged doesn't mean you're unintelligent. It also doesn't mean you aren't serious about school.


Success at BASIS depends on being able to pass tests based on cumulative learning - intelligence isn’t enough if the kids are starting out behind & don’t have resources at home to catch up. Personally I think it would be good for BASIS to somewhat soften what I understand is their approach to high-stakes testing. Like, kids can advance with a lower score but have to double up the next year on math or writing. That way you’re keeping the rigor of BASIS but giving kids more chances.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/aaron2446/viz/MSDCSeatsandWaitlistOfferData_draft/MSDCPublicDisplay

Enjoy, my fellow nerds!

A few notes:

DCI Chinese 6th = 31 offers, 30 for 8th
DCI French 6th = 30 offers, 19 for 8th. Clearly trying to plus up these cohorts.

Mundo P St has already made 30 PK3 offers.

44 5th grade offers at BASIS, plus 8 EA offers
11 5th grade at Latin Cooper (no EA offers yet)
13 5th grade offers at Latin 2nd (plus 3 EA offers)

38 9th grade offers at Walls. McKinley Tech made an offer to the one lonely person on its waitlist.


On the other side, Mundo Calle Ocho waitlist is significantly longer than P and barely moved in ECE/K and 1st-5th 0 movement.
The other Spanish immersion charters barely any movement in the upper grades either.
So guarantee of getting into feeder in upper grades for a chance at DCI is not happening.


Man. Every year this goes on, I remember how my own kid was #350 for PK4 at Mundo P St. It is absolutely stunning what's happened to that school.


what happened??
Anonymous
So what’s it like for a kid with no language background to enter DCI in 8th?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So what’s it like for a kid with no language background to enter DCI in 8th?


It's fine, from what I've heard.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So what’s it like for a kid with no language background to enter DCI in 8th?


It's fine, from what I've heard.


It's fine, but their language class will be with the lowest-ability kids.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/aaron2446/viz/MSDCSeatsandWaitlistOfferData_draft/MSDCPublicDisplay

Enjoy, my fellow nerds!

A few notes:

DCI Chinese 6th = 31 offers, 30 for 8th
DCI French 6th = 30 offers, 19 for 8th. Clearly trying to plus up these cohorts.

Mundo P St has already made 30 PK3 offers.

44 5th grade offers at BASIS, plus 8 EA offers
11 5th grade at Latin Cooper (no EA offers yet)
13 5th grade offers at Latin 2nd (plus 3 EA offers)

38 9th grade offers at Walls. McKinley Tech made an offer to the one lonely person on its waitlist.


On the other side, Mundo Calle Ocho waitlist is significantly longer than P and barely moved in ECE/K and 1st-5th 0 movement.
The other Spanish immersion charters barely any movement in the upper grades either.
So guarantee of getting into feeder in upper grades for a chance at DCI is not happening.


Man. Every year this goes on, I remember how my own kid was #350 for PK4 at Mundo P St. It is absolutely stunning what's happened to that school.


what happened??


I think a lot of things happened. Nearby DCPS IBs improved somewhat, attracting people who don't really want Spanish and only liked Mundo because it was otherwise appealing. Obviously Calle Ocho pulled a lot of kids off the P St. waiting list. Losing the DCI guarantee. People opening their eyes to the very serious behavior problems and academic weaknesses, rookie teachers and high teacher turnover (obviously those things are related).

I think there was a feeling 6 or 7 years ago that Truxton Circle issues would soon improve, but that hasn't happened.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So what’s it like for a kid with no language background to enter DCI in 8th?


It's fine, from what I've heard.


It's fine, but their language class will be with the lowest-ability kids.


Is that just the language class, or other classes?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:165 9th grade offers at MacArthur, wow


My reaction exactly: wow. Half the waitlist blown through already.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:EA at BASIS is going to be a disaster.


That's not really fair. Being disadvantaged doesn't mean you're unintelligent. It also doesn't mean you aren't serious about school.


Success at BASIS depends on being able to pass tests based on cumulative learning - intelligence isn’t enough if the kids are starting out behind & don’t have resources at home to catch up. Personally I think it would be good for BASIS to somewhat soften what I understand is their approach to high-stakes testing. Like, kids can advance with a lower score but have to double up the next year on math or writing. That way you’re keeping the rigor of BASIS but giving kids more chances.


Not happening. That model (pass the test in order to continue) is true across all the BASIS charter schools in the country. I personally think it's great, and I'm so thankful to have at least one option in DC that has high standards and no social promotion.

They do offer a lot of tutoring and help -- all the teachers have after school hours where kids can ask for help, they have peer tutoring and Georgetown students in to tutor. So their model is not to lower the standards, but to help students meet them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So what’s it like for a kid with no language background to enter DCI in 8th?


It's fine, from what I've heard.


It's fine, but their language class will be with the lowest-ability kids.


Is that just the language class, or other classes?


It depends. If you're entering for French, and you're with the strongest DCI kids from Spanish/Chinese, who are starting a second language (French), then your schedule will at least partly mesh with theirs. I don't know if anyone at DCI enrolls in Chinese as their second language (I would expect fewer kids like that, but it happens). It also depends if you place in a "ninth grade math for eighth graders" class (I believe there were two classes like this, this year). If you're placed in Chinese 1 with kids who've been doing that for several years, that's a whole other experience.
Anonymous
Only 30 incoming 5th graders with an EA preference even listed Basis. There is a tremendous amount of self-selection. The at-risk percentage will be below 10% even with the preference.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:165 9th grade offers at MacArthur, wow


My reaction exactly: wow. Half the waitlist blown through already.


+1. I predict they will go thru their waitlist.
Anonymous
DCPS schools that basically clears their waitlist 1st and up and anyone can get in

Bruce Monroe
Burroughs
Cleveland
Garrison
JO Wilson
Langley
Miner
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Quick glance as a ward 4 parent; Takoma and Whittier not offering one spot so far for PK3 is remarkable.


Shepherd hasn't offered one waitlist spot in any grade.
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