TJ staff turnover

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'd heard staff turnover at TJ is way down since they addressed the cheating and toxicity issues.


Are you joking? The cheating is way up within the school.


More than in 2001 when Yale admissions called the principal over the girl who wrote the essay about the cheating culture?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'd heard staff turnover at TJ is way down since they addressed the cheating and toxicity issues.


Are you joking? The cheating is way up within the school.


More than in 2001 when Yale admissions called the principal over the girl who wrote the essay about the cheating culture?


Yes, now it is widespread. Pushed by parents, overstressed, and underqualified students - all different types are cheating now.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'd heard staff turnover at TJ is way down since they addressed the cheating and toxicity issues.


Are you joking? The cheating is way up within the school.


More than in 2001 when Yale admissions called the principal over the girl who wrote the essay about the cheating culture?


Yes, now it is widespread. Pushed by parents, overstressed, and underqualified students - all different types are cheating now.


Not all that different from honors/AP/IB courses at any of the other high schools. High achieving kids cheat. We are finding answer keys stuffed in bathroom walls, cell phones stashed under the paper bags in the female product disposal containers used to access chat gpt to write draft essays they attempt to memorize and regurgitate for in class essays (seriously), and grafitti on stall walls with answers to math tests. I can't prevent kids from going to the bathroom. How should it be addressed? Not trying to make excuses, just tired of them always being one step ahead of us.

It has to start at home. Students need to be told by mom and dad since the day they are born that honesty and integrity are more important than points. That it's okay to get less than perfect, even that it is good because it shows you are challenging yourself!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'd heard staff turnover at TJ is way down since they addressed the cheating and toxicity issues.


Are you joking? The cheating is way up within the school.


That troll is spending days massaging bad news for FCPS. They claim that low ranking is actually a good thing, kids taking remedial math are better in math than kids with advanced math, and now more teachera leaving TJ is a good thing.


Seems better than the trolls who say that cheating is more widespread now than 4 years ago - do they have first hand knowledge? Of course not. Just troll posts.
Anonymous
Teachers leaving is definitely wide spread at this point. It’s time to pay teachers way more money. And get rid of the whole pay scale thing. Teachers coming from other states should not have to come in lower on the scale.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'd heard staff turnover at TJ is way down since they addressed the cheating and toxicity issues.


Are you joking? The cheating is way up within the school.


More than in 2001 when Yale admissions called the principal over the girl who wrote the essay about the cheating culture?


Yes, now it is widespread. Pushed by parents, overstressed, and underqualified students - all different types are cheating now.


I think you missed what I said when I said the college application essay was about the cheating culture. The girl literally wrote that she deserved admissions to Yale because she was one of the incredibly rare unicorns who didn't cheat at TJ.

And if you think parents weren't pushy then or underqualified students didn't sneak through even the old admissions process, I don't know what to tell you. I knew kids whose parents locked them in their rooms to study as soon as they got off the bus.
Anonymous
TJ teachers hired to teach precalculus, calculus, and post AP courses at stem magnet school cant be expected to stay if they are being asked to teach remedial middle school level math courses.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'd heard staff turnover at TJ is way down since they addressed the cheating and toxicity issues.


Are you joking? The cheating is way up within the school.


More than in 2001 when Yale admissions called the principal over the girl who wrote the essay about the cheating culture?


Yes, now it is widespread. Pushed by parents, overstressed, and underqualified students - all different types are cheating now.


Not all that different from honors/AP/IB courses at any of the other high schools. High achieving kids cheat. We are finding answer keys stuffed in bathroom walls, cell phones stashed under the paper bags in the female product disposal containers used to access chat gpt to write draft essays they attempt to memorize and regurgitate for in class essays (seriously), and grafitti on stall walls with answers to math tests. I can't prevent kids from going to the bathroom. How should it be addressed? Not trying to make excuses, just tired of them always being one step ahead of us.

It has to start at home. Students need to be told by mom and dad since the day they are born that honesty and integrity are more important than points. That it's okay to get less than perfect, even that it is good because it shows you are challenging yourself!


What a ridiculous statement. If you are a teacher, please quit.
Anonymous
The legendary TJ began leaving after the admissions changes. The kids weren’t up to the rigor that they were used to teaching.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The legendary TJ began leaving after the admissions changes. The kids weren’t up to the rigor that they were used to teaching.


As a parent of a rising TJ 9th grader, I get it. Middle school is a joke. DC is taking H Geometry and it's a ridiculously easy class. The other classes are also way too easy. DC hasn't learned much of anything in middle school, it's all so easy. Rigor at TJ is going to be a huge jump for DC and for all the kids. That doesn't mean they can't do it or that it's the fault of the admissions changes, as you are saying. It's the way they do school now.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The legendary TJ began leaving after the admissions changes. The kids weren’t up to the rigor that they were used to teaching.


Quick, check the date on this article from Dr. Dell in the Post.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-new-thomas-jefferson-it-includes-remedial-math/2012/05/25/gJQAlZRYqU_story.html

TJ's been going down the tubes since 1989, really. Go back and read "What Really Happened to the Class of '93?" (promise I'm not the author).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:TJ teachers hired to teach precalculus, calculus, and post AP courses at stem magnet school cant be expected to stay if they are being asked to teach remedial middle school level math courses.


So troll when people question your assertion that cheating is more rampant you just go on to another assertion. Cute.

Of course TJ teachers don't like to teach remedial math. But as I said above, that's been a problem for well over a decade (at least!).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The legendary TJ began leaving after the admissions changes. The kids weren’t up to the rigor that they were used to teaching.


Quick, check the date on this article from Dr. Dell in the Post.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-new-thomas-jefferson-it-includes-remedial-math/2012/05/25/gJQAlZRYqU_story.html

TJ's been going down the tubes since 1989, really. Go back and read "What Really Happened to the Class of '93?" (promise I'm not the author).


Dr. Dell didn’t leave until after the admissions changes.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The legendary TJ began leaving after the admissions changes. The kids weren’t up to the rigor that they were used to teaching.


Quick, check the date on this article from Dr. Dell in the Post.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-new-thomas-jefferson-it-includes-remedial-math/2012/05/25/gJQAlZRYqU_story.html

TJ's been going down the tubes since 1989, really. Go back and read "What Really Happened to the Class of '93?" (promise I'm not the author).


Dr. Dell didn’t leave until after the admissions changes.


He retired in 2019 after 30 years of teaching. (Incidentally, this worked out to be great timing on his part, purely by accident. Didn't have to deal with the pandemic at all, professionally.)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The legendary TJ began leaving after the admissions changes. The kids weren’t up to the rigor that they were used to teaching.


Quick, check the date on this article from Dr. Dell in the Post.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-new-thomas-jefferson-it-includes-remedial-math/2012/05/25/gJQAlZRYqU_story.html

TJ's been going down the tubes since 1989, really. Go back and read "What Really Happened to the Class of '93?" (promise I'm not the author).


Dr. Dell didn’t leave until after the admissions changes.


He retired in 2019 after 30 years of teaching. (Incidentally, this worked out to be great timing on his part, purely by accident. Didn't have to deal with the pandemic at all, professionally.)


This is missing the point that Dr. Dell wrote that in 2012. There were admissions changes before the most recent, most drastic ones, of course. They've been fiddling with the admissions system basically since the school opened.
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