Will a non "gunner" kid find their people at the Ivies in 2024?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sure he'd do fine!

But I question the college counseling. My kids are at a top boarding school that sends dozens of kids to ivies and we were just on a zoom where the head of college advising said, "It's all about institutional priorities now. The top kids have no better chance than the 40th kid. The colleges know all are students would do well at their college, they're picking who they need. (aka hooked and/or pointy.) Our top students shouldn't feel entitled to a spot at the most rejective schools nor should our middle of the class kids should not feel these schools are out of reach"

Does your school have many kids with a very good GPA? Our private does not so the top kids really stand out from their classmates. I don't have a top kid but there are only about 10 kids with over a 3.9 and a class average GPA of 3.5 so those who are at the top are outliers and have far different GPAs than the rest of the class.

[Anonymous]

Kids have fun at Yale yes. He’ll be fine.

[Anonymous]

My kid is really enjoying Brown. Deliberately chose schools that embraced creativity and weren't grinds. Of course, everyone there is a super high achiever, but there isn't the pressure to outdo everyone else. In math, kids help each other on problem sets. In arts, they support each other. Nice change if pace from her magnet grind.

Friend similarly enjoyed Yale, but they seem to have more airs/ego (could have been there pre-Yale, but was very apparent after a few years there) than my kid's friends at Brown do. Friend at Harvard turned into a total snob. Between that a kid who moaned about how hyper competitive everyone was at H, mine crossed that one off her list.

Choose a few to visit. I'd try Yale, Brown and Dartmouth.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sure he'd do fine!

But I question the college counseling. My kids are at a top boarding school that sends dozens of kids to ivies and we were just on a zoom where the head of college advising said, "It's all about institutional priorities now. The top kids have no better chance than the 40th kid. The colleges know all are students would do well at their college, they're picking who they need. (aka hooked and/or pointy.) Our top students shouldn't feel entitled to a spot at the most rejective schools nor should our middle of the class kids should not feel these schools are out of reach"

Does your school have many kids with a very good GPA? Our private does not so the top kids really stand out from their classmates. I don't have a top kid but there are only about 10 kids with over a 3.9 and a class average GPA of 3.5 so those who are at the top are outliers and have far different GPAs than the rest of the class.

Kinda. I think the average SAT is over 1500 and the average GPA is 3.6-something. It's a school known for school deflation so the kids with 3.9s stand out - BUT - that doesn't get them into college alone. If they have the GPA and also fantastic recs AND a subject of interest that aligns with major .. they do fine. But colleges don't really want the robs-student that they could just as likely get from other test-in schools or have piles of apps from wealthy kids from china/india/etc. So even the 3.9ers need more. It's a high school with LOTS of opportunities. If you haven't grabbed them in an interesting way, grades alone won't impress.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Best he move along. Kids at ivies are not regular kids. They certainly don’t like sports and girls and You Tube and laughing.

Hahahahaha

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid is really enjoying Brown. Deliberately chose schools that embraced creativity and weren't grinds. Of course, everyone there is a super high achiever, but there isn't the pressure to outdo everyone else. In math, kids help each other on problem sets. In arts, they support each other. Nice change if pace from her magnet grind.

Friend similarly enjoyed Yale, but they seem to have more airs/ego (could have been there pre-Yale, but was very apparent after a few years there) than my kid's friends at Brown do. Friend at Harvard turned into a total snob. Between that a kid who moaned about how hyper competitive everyone was at H, mine crossed that one off her list.

Choose a few to visit. I'd try Yale, Brown and Dartmouth.

You’re trying too hard, Brown Mom.

[Anonymous]

This is an odd question. The Ivy League is a sports conference, and the colleges within aren’t that similar to each other. Their admit rates also vary.

Don’t focus on prestige, have your kid visit several schools and see where speaks to him. It’s pretty straightforward.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is really enjoying Brown. Deliberately chose schools that embraced creativity and weren't grinds. Of course, everyone there is a super high achiever, but there isn't the pressure to outdo everyone else. In math, kids help each other on problem sets. In arts, they support each other. Nice change if pace from her magnet grind.

Friend similarly enjoyed Yale, but they seem to have more airs/ego (could have been there pre-Yale, but was very apparent after a few years there) than my kid's friends at Brown do. Friend at Harvard turned into a total snob. Between that a kid who moaned about how hyper competitive everyone was at H, mine crossed that one off her list.

Choose a few to visit. I'd try Yale, Brown and Dartmouth.

You’re trying too hard, Brown Mom.

At what? Just sharing my kid's experience with her school and a few others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid is really enjoying Brown. Deliberately chose schools that embraced creativity and weren't grinds. Of course, everyone there is a super high achiever, but there isn't the pressure to outdo everyone else. In math, kids help each other on problem sets. In arts, they support each other. Nice change if pace from her magnet grind.

Friend similarly enjoyed Yale, but they seem to have more airs/ego (could have been there pre-Yale, but was very apparent after a few years there) than my kid's friends at Brown do. Friend at Harvard turned into a total snob. Between that a kid who moaned about how hyper competitive everyone was at H, mine crossed that one off her list.

Choose a few to visit. I'd try Yale, Brown and Dartmouth.

You’re trying too hard, Brown Mom.

At what? Just sharing my kid's experience with her school and a few others.

You aren’t sharing. You’re promoting, and not very well since it’s so transparent.

We get it, Brown kids are cool (though you have to say every time they are “super high achievers,” in case someone thinks maybe they aren’t quite the same caliber as at some other schools) and kids at Harvard and Yale aren’t.

[Anonymous]

OP sounds like troll

[Anonymous]

Lots of normal kids at Brown, Dartmouth, Columbia, Cornell and Penn

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid is really enjoying Brown. Deliberately chose schools that embraced creativity and weren't grinds. Of course, everyone there is a super high achiever, but there isn't the pressure to outdo everyone else. In math, kids help each other on problem sets. In arts, they support each other. Nice change if pace from her magnet grind.

Friend similarly enjoyed Yale, but they seem to have more airs/ego (could have been there pre-Yale, but was very apparent after a few years there) than my kid's friends at Brown do. Friend at Harvard turned into a total snob. Between that a kid who moaned about how hyper competitive everyone was at H, mine crossed that one off her list.

Choose a few to visit. I'd try Yale, Brown and Dartmouth.

You’re trying too hard, Brown Mom.

At what? Just sharing my kid's experience with her school and a few others.

You aren’t sharing. You’re promoting, and not very well since it’s so transparent.

We get it, Brown kids are cool (though you have to say every time they are “super high achievers,” in case someone thinks maybe they aren’t quite the same caliber as at some other schools) and kids at Harvard and Yale aren’t.

Yikes, you've got a chip on your shoulder. Brown doesn't need my (or anyone's) promotion. Just sharing an experience. Mentioned the achiever part because students do have drive and are not slackers in case "creative" was misinterpreted as this board wants to do. Also, I only shared once.

Eat something. You'll feel better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are all kinds of students at every college (yes that includes the ivies)

This 100%

[Anonymous]

this is one of the worst low key humble brag posts ever on dcum

and that’s saying alot

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is really enjoying Brown. Deliberately chose schools that embraced creativity and weren't grinds. Of course, everyone there is a super high achiever, but there isn't the pressure to outdo everyone else. In math, kids help each other on problem sets. In arts, they support each other. Nice change if pace from her magnet grind.

Friend similarly enjoyed Yale, but they seem to have more airs/ego (could have been there pre-Yale, but was very apparent after a few years there) than my kid's friends at Brown do. Friend at Harvard turned into a total snob. Between that a kid who moaned about how hyper competitive everyone was at H, mine crossed that one off her list.

Choose a few to visit. I'd try Yale, Brown and Dartmouth.

You’re trying too hard, Brown Mom.

At what? Just sharing my kid's experience with her school and a few others.

You aren’t sharing. You’re promoting, and not very well since it’s so transparent.

We get it, Brown kids are cool (though you have to say every time they are “super high achievers,” in case someone thinks maybe they aren’t quite the same caliber as at some other schools) and kids at Harvard and Yale aren’t.

Yikes, you've got a chip on your shoulder. Brown doesn't need my (or anyone's) promotion. Just sharing an experience. Mentioned the achiever part because students do have drive and are not slackers in case "creative" was misinterpreted as this board wants to do. Also, I only shared once.

Eat something. You'll feel better.

I can assure you I’ve no chip on my shoulder when it comes to Brown. You’re just boring and repetitive. If Brown students are indeed creative, there’s clearly at least one instance where it wasn’t inherited.