Rant of the day

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Drink more water. You'll feel full and won't have headaches. Also take advil.

I drink a ton of water that is not the issue. I’m not even really looking for solutions. I lost 55 pounds and have maintained it! I’m just frustrated and hungry today

Your situation is a good example of all the "CI-CO, exercise more, eat protein, drink water, etc." is all good advice but doesn't address the different levels of hunger pain we all must deal with. For example, somebody could theoretically eat twice as much as somebody else (e.g., of healthy foods for lunch) and still be hungry while the other person is completely satiated until they're ready for a light dinner. And being hungry, being thirsty, having to pee, etc. are those base needs that override everything else in your head. All the "I did it so why can't you?" posts are pompous and irrelevant.

PP, I think you missed my point. You should never feel hungry dieting or it won’t work. If you’re feeling hungry, slow down and eat more calories. Almonds are amazing for this.

Feeling hungry isn’t sustainable and will only cause you to binge and overeat. I permanently lost 50 pounds and was never hungry, but it took me many years. The problem is people want to lose weight fast by starving themselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Drink more water. You'll feel full and won't have headaches. Also take advil.

I drink a ton of water that is not the issue. I’m not even really looking for solutions. I lost 55 pounds and have maintained it! I’m just frustrated and hungry today

Your situation is a good example of all the "CI-CO, exercise more, eat protein, drink water, etc." is all good advice but doesn't address the different levels of hunger pain we all must deal with. For example, somebody could theoretically eat twice as much as somebody else (e.g., of healthy foods for lunch) and still be hungry while the other person is completely satiated until they're ready for a light dinner. And being hungry, being thirsty, having to pee, etc. are those base needs that override everything else in your head. All the "I did it so why can't you?" posts are pompous and irrelevant.

PP, I think you missed my point. You should never feel hungry dieting or it won’t work. If you’re feeling hungry, slow down and eat more calories. Almonds are amazing for this.

Feeling hungry isn’t sustainable and will only cause you to binge and overeat. I permanently lost 50 pounds and was never hungry, but it took me many years. The problem is people want to lose weight fast by starving themselves.

The person you're responding to isn't OP. I am OP. The person you are responding to is the one who seems to have read my actual posts though. I also have lost 50 pounds and kept it off. I lost it over the course of 2-3 years by making sustainable life changes. I had to be hungry sometimes to do it. And while I can maintain my new weight with relatively little effort, losing any additional weight is very hard due to having PCOS and just IMO bad weight genetics. Don't tell me I don't have to be hungry, that's how I gain weight. I have a line in the sand here at the weight that puts me into the obese category. If I start gaining my body is like a big old boat about to crash into a bridge, it can't slow down and change directions very fast. I have to reset, I have to be hungry. I'll get to the other side. But you are doing more harm than good going around saying you have the trick that will work for everyone. People's body's are very different.

I said I didn't need advice, that I was just venting and really looking for commiseration. I did it, I'm a success story. Almonds are the most depressing food known to man. I eat them a lot! I appreciate people wanting to help, but you are just acting like everyone struggling with this is just being greedy trying to get skinny quick. And that is not true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Drink more water. You'll feel full and won't have headaches. Also take advil.

I drink a ton of water that is not the issue. I’m not even really looking for solutions. I lost 55 pounds and have maintained it! I’m just frustrated and hungry today

Your situation is a good example of all the "CI-CO, exercise more, eat protein, drink water, etc." is all good advice but doesn't address the different levels of hunger pain we all must deal with. For example, somebody could theoretically eat twice as much as somebody else (e.g., of healthy foods for lunch) and still be hungry while the other person is completely satiated until they're ready for a light dinner. And being hungry, being thirsty, having to pee, etc. are those base needs that override everything else in your head. All the "I did it so why can't you?" posts are pompous and irrelevant.

PP, I think you missed my point. You should never feel hungry dieting or it won’t work. If you’re feeling hungry, slow down and eat more calories. Almonds are amazing for this.

Feeling hungry isn’t sustainable and will only cause you to binge and overeat. I permanently lost 50 pounds and was never hungry, but it took me many years. The problem is people want to lose weight fast by starving themselves.

The person you're responding to isn't OP. I am OP. The person you are responding to is the one who seems to have read my actual posts though. I also have lost 50 pounds and kept it off. I lost it over the course of 2-3 years by making sustainable life changes. I had to be hungry sometimes to do it. And while I can maintain my new weight with relatively little effort, losing any additional weight is very hard due to having PCOS and just IMO bad weight genetics. Don't tell me I don't have to be hungry, that's how I gain weight. I have a line in the sand here at the weight that puts me into the obese category. If I start gaining my body is like a big old boat about to crash into a bridge, it can't slow down and change directions very fast. I have to reset, I have to be hungry. I'll get to the other side. But you are doing more harm than good going around saying you have the trick that will work for everyone. People's body's are very different.But

I said I didn't need advice, that I was just venting and really looking for commiseration. I did it, I'm a success story. Almonds are the most depressing food known to man. I eat them a lot! I appreciate people wanting to help, but you are just acting like everyone struggling with this is just being greedy trying to get skinny quick. And that is not true.

The boat analogy rings true. I can work so hard (healthy diet, good portions, exercise) over an extended period to slowly lose weight. But if I regress at all (even eating the same way another "skinny" person eats), the weight piles back on with momentum. Body chemistry is indeed different, and all the "formulas for success" don't have the same impact on different people nor can they be implemented at the same levels of overriding hunger. I mean it is what it is, but there's a reason why so few people are successful over time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Drink more water. You'll feel full and won't have headaches. Also take advil.

I drink a ton of water that is not the issue. I’m not even really looking for solutions. I lost 55 pounds and have maintained it! I’m just frustrated and hungry today

Your situation is a good example of all the "CI-CO, exercise more, eat protein, drink water, etc." is all good advice but doesn't address the different levels of hunger pain we all must deal with. For example, somebody could theoretically eat twice as much as somebody else (e.g., of healthy foods for lunch) and still be hungry while the other person is completely satiated until they're ready for a light dinner. And being hungry, being thirsty, having to pee, etc. are those base needs that override everything else in your head. All the "I did it so why can't you?" posts are pompous and irrelevant.

PP, I think you missed my point. You should never feel hungry dieting or it won’t work. If you’re feeling hungry, slow down and eat more calories. Almonds are amazing for this.

Feeling hungry isn’t sustainable and will only cause you to binge and overeat. I permanently lost 50 pounds and was never hungry, but it took me many years. The problem is people want to lose weight fast by starving themselves.

The person you're responding to isn't OP. I am OP. The person you are responding to is the one who seems to have read my actual posts though. I also have lost 50 pounds and kept it off. I lost it over the course of 2-3 years by making sustainable life changes. I had to be hungry sometimes to do it. And while I can maintain my new weight with relatively little effort, losing any additional weight is very hard due to having PCOS and just IMO bad weight genetics. Don't tell me I don't have to be hungry, that's how I gain weight. I have a line in the sand here at the weight that puts me into the obese category. If I start gaining my body is like a big old boat about to crash into a bridge, it can't slow down and change directions very fast. I have to reset, I have to be hungry. I'll get to the other side. But you are doing more harm than good going around saying you have the trick that will work for everyone. People's body's are very different.But

I said I didn't need advice, that I was just venting and really looking for commiseration. I did it, I'm a success story. Almonds are the most depressing food known to man. I eat them a lot! I appreciate people wanting to help, but you are just acting like everyone struggling with this is just being greedy trying to get skinny quick. And that is not true.

The boat analogy rings true. I can work so hard (healthy diet, good portions, exercise) over an extended period to slowly lose weight. But if I regress at all (even eating the same way another "skinny" person eats), the weight piles back on with momentum. Body chemistry is indeed different, and all the "formulas for success" don't have the same impact on different people nor can they be implemented at the same levels of overriding hunger. I mean it is what it is, but there's a reason why so few people are successful over time.

Yes exactly. Everyone in my life is sick of me, my husband things I'm losing my mind and is becoming outright concerned, my therapist says I'm acting in too extreme a way. And like maybe I am but this type of militant return to form is really the only way I can prevent gaining so I don't know what to do!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Drink more water. You'll feel full and won't have headaches. Also take advil.

I drink a ton of water that is not the issue. I’m not even really looking for solutions. I lost 55 pounds and have maintained it! I’m just frustrated and hungry today

Your situation is a good example of all the "CI-CO, exercise more, eat protein, drink water, etc." is all good advice but doesn't address the different levels of hunger pain we all must deal with. For example, somebody could theoretically eat twice as much as somebody else (e.g., of healthy foods for lunch) and still be hungry while the other person is completely satiated until they're ready for a light dinner. And being hungry, being thirsty, having to pee, etc. are those base needs that override everything else in your head. All the "I did it so why can't you?" posts are pompous and irrelevant.

PP, I think you missed my point. You should never feel hungry dieting or it won’t work. If you’re feeling hungry, slow down and eat more calories. Almonds are amazing for this.

Feeling hungry isn’t sustainable and will only cause you to binge and overeat. I permanently lost 50 pounds and was never hungry, but it took me many years. The problem is people want to lose weight fast by starving themselves.

The person you're responding to isn't OP. I am OP. The person you are responding to is the one who seems to have read my actual posts though. I also have lost 50 pounds and kept it off. I lost it over the course of 2-3 years by making sustainable life changes. I had to be hungry sometimes to do it. And while I can maintain my new weight with relatively little effort, losing any additional weight is very hard due to having PCOS and just IMO bad weight genetics. Don't tell me I don't have to be hungry, that's how I gain weight. I have a line in the sand here at the weight that puts me into the obese category. If I start gaining my body is like a big old boat about to crash into a bridge, it can't slow down and change directions very fast. I have to reset, I have to be hungry. I'll get to the other side. But you are doing more harm than good going around saying you have the trick that will work for everyone. People's body's are very different.But

I said I didn't need advice, that I was just venting and really looking for commiseration. I did it, I'm a success story. Almonds are the most depressing food known to man. I eat them a lot! I appreciate people wanting to help, but you are just acting like everyone struggling with this is just being greedy trying to get skinny quick. And that is not true.

The boat analogy rings true. I can work so hard (healthy diet, good portions, exercise) over an extended period to slowly lose weight. But if I regress at all (even eating the same way another "skinny" person eats), the weight piles back on with momentum. Body chemistry is indeed different, and all the "formulas for success" don't have the same impact on different people nor can they be implemented at the same levels of overriding hunger. I mean it is what it is, but there's a reason why so few people are successful over time.

Yes exactly. Everyone in my life is sick of me, my husband things I'm losing my mind and is becoming outright concerned, my therapist says I'm acting in too extreme a way. And like maybe I am but this type of militant return to form is really the only way I can prevent gaining so I don't know what to do!

I have a friend my age who has Starbucks for breakfast, fast food for lunch/dinner, a "beers and wings" diet over the weekend, no meaningful exercise routine, and they're skinny. Sure, probably "skinny fat" but still skinny. We all have these people in our lives. My friend's metabolism and the way they process food is just different than mine. No amount of extended good behavior on my end will ever make us the same. I suspect that many of the healthy-weight people out there aren't living a radically different lifestyle than many of the obese people you see out there.

[Anonymous]

You need to ramp your exercise up. Stop doing whatever you seem to have conditioned your body to accept, and do the opposite. Like move from cardio to weights, or weights to cardio. Also really take a good look at your diet. It sounds like you are not being honest because there is no way you are not loosing weight on a true caloric deficit. You might need to do something drastic like water fast for 48 hours over a weekend or a juice fast.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You need to ramp your exercise up. Stop doing whatever you seem to have conditioned your body to accept, and do the opposite. Like move from cardio to weights, or weights to cardio. Also really take a good look at your diet. It sounds like you are not being honest because there is no way you are not loosing weight on a true caloric deficit. You might need to do something drastic like water fast for 48 hours over a weekend or a juice fast.

Hahahahahahahaha. I spent all of January on an extremely ambitious weight lifting program improving the weights I lifted with my legs by like 30-40% heavier by the end. I have been doing both long and short form cardio basically nonstop since the beginning of the month including hour plus long runs and rides interspersed with HIIT cardio.

So DONE. It is half the reason I'm so weak and hungry! Thanks for your feedback and advice though!

[Anonymous]

Try a GLP-1?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Try a GLP-1?

I think this is the way, OP.

This thread has been another great example of “here’s why fat people are somehow always doing everything wrong no matter what they do” thinsplaining. Good luck, OP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You need to ramp your exercise up. Stop doing whatever you seem to have conditioned your body to accept, and do the opposite. Like move from cardio to weights, or weights to cardio. Also really take a good look at your diet. It sounds like you are not being honest because there is no way you are not loosing weight on a true caloric deficit. You might need to do something drastic like water fast for 48 hours over a weekend or a juice fast.

Hahahahahahahaha. I spent all of January on an extremely ambitious weight lifting program improving the weights I lifted with my legs by like 30-40% heavier by the end. I have been doing both long and short form cardio basically nonstop since the beginning of the month including hour plus long runs and rides interspersed with HIIT cardio.

So DONE. It is half the reason I'm so weak and hungry! Thanks for your feedback and advice though!

Ok I KNOW you said you don’t want advice. I know. I’m sorry I’m going to do it anyways and suggest nixing the cardio. You are really hurting your lifting - almost cancelling out muscle gain - if you are doing high impact cardio. A little low impact steady state is fine but it might help the hunger, exhaustion and also improve body composition if you just did the weight lifting. It does take a long time for results (you mentioned doing it “all of January”) - perhaps even years - but in the long run better for your health.
I’m sorry for the frustration though - I’ve been there and it sucks. I still have to basically be a little hungry at the end of each meal in order to maintain my weight.