They absolutely aren't |
You think they aren’t because you attended one of them. I didn’t attend either and see them as peer schools, albeit different types of schools. |
| We live in MD and my kid decided between the two schools- he was a 1/2 BK and a Monroe scholar at W&M. UMD was $20K all in per year and W&M was $60K per year. We would have paid for W&M- he decided to go to UMD and ended up happy and is graduating with honors and a job offer and plenty of money for grad school. |
| UMD offers more majors and other options |
| I wish we had W&M in Maryland. |
No, it's just a fact. They're definitely not peer schools either, W&M's peers are schools like Wake, Tufts, etc. and Maryland's are schools like UIUC, Ohio State, Rutgers, etc. |
| Two schools being publics in the DC area isn't enough to make them peers. |
Well, W&M much better fits the description of a smaller college. The price difference must be significant, though. Cost being equal, I would definitely prefer W&M, but that is me. You need to factor cost. |
Oops no, now you just look silly. I don’t live in either state so I don’t have a dog in this fight, but William and Mary is not in the same stratosphere as Tufts or Wake Forest. |
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Have to agree, the only thing W&M has in common with Wake or Tufts is undergrad population size.
Wake has more rigor, strong D1 sports and is actually more Greek, not that it is a good thing that last one. Tufts I can see a few similarities in vibe of the students, but Tufts is stronger academically. |
I think they’re comparable in many respects. Wake Forest and Tufts are the private college cousins of W&M, their public counter-part. WF and W&M are just a few schools apart in the national rankings. They were my top two choices back when I applied and there are still lots of crossover applications between WF and W&M. |
Not in same stratosphere??? Actual data from 2022-23 Common Data Sets for W&M and WFU: W&M SAT 75/50/25: 1520/1460/1375 with 52% reporting W&M ACT 75/50/25: 34/33/32 with 18% reporting W&M Overall 70% reporting SAT + ACT W&M Top 10%: 77% with 31% reporting WFU SAT 75/50/25: 1500/1450/1400 with 28% reporting WFU ACT 75/50/25: 34/33/31 with 29% reporting WFU Overall 57% reporting SAT + ACT WFU Top 10%: 74% with 20% reporting |
They are reputational peers. I’m sorry you find that so upsetting. |
Stop making this all about your feelings. Op asked about MD and W&M. |
You're right. UMD is ranked higher (46) than WM (53). https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities |