Tell me about the CS program at William and Mary

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Anonymous wrote:PP - I think it is honestly a very good program because it is not part of an engineering school and so students also have to take part in the liberal arts curriculum. I also believe it is now ranked higher than Mason's CS program

What a stupid comment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP - I think it is honestly a very good program because it is not part of an engineering school and so students also have to take part in the liberal arts curriculum. I also believe it is now ranked higher than Mason's CS program

What a stupid comment.

Not the poster you replied to, but I believe they were going by this: https://premium.usnews.com/best-colleges/va?schoolType=computer-science&_sort=rank&_sortDirection=asc

27. VT
33. UVA
82. W&M
100. GMU
167. VCU

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP - I think it is honestly a very good program because it is not part of an engineering school and so students also have to take part in the liberal arts curriculum. I also believe it is now ranked higher than Mason's CS program

What a stupid comment.

Not the poster you replied to, but I believe they were going by this: https://premium.usnews.com/best-colleges/va?schoolType=computer-science&_sort=rank&_sortDirection=asc

27. VT
33. UVA
82. W&M
100. GMU
167. VCU

Pretty sad that not one school in VA is top 25 in CS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PP - I think it is honestly a very good program because it is not part of an engineering school and so students also have to take part in the liberal arts curriculum. I also believe it is now ranked higher than Mason's CS program

What a stupid comment.

Tell that to US News lol

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
If you need to go instate, but can't make UVA or VT, then do it.

It's harder to get into W&M then VT.

not for CS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP - I think it is honestly a very good program because it is not part of an engineering school and so students also have to take part in the liberal arts curriculum. I also believe it is now ranked higher than Mason's CS program

Lots of schools have CS in and out of engineering. And even kids at engineering schools have liberal arts core requirements.

Yes, but often times you can only get a BS through engineering. A BA is CS is less valuable for the average person. And yes again about the core requirements, but there are often also a lot of (unneeded) engineering core reqs as well thrown in - UVA engineering's program for example requires multivar, chemistry, intro engineering, intro physics. How is this useful for a software dev??

Not true. In broad terms, CS grads end up either building a product/solution(e.g. building a Meta or Salesforce) or implementing a product/solution (e.g. Salesforce implementation, custom development for DOJ, replatforming existing systems). There are way more jobs in implementation that there are in development and none of them require any level of higher math. Like zero. I've hired self-taught programmers who have done extremely well career-wise.

The cream of the crop CS kids end up working on products at top tier companies and make the big bucks. MIT may send 50+% of their kids into these kinda jobs, while at GMU it may be 5-10%. The remainder work in implementation. Even a BA in CS is overkill for those jobs. Don't get me wrong. These jobs do pay very well.

So, the kid with high-end aspirations needs a BS in CS from a top school or be the top kid at a mediocre school. For the average kid, any CS degree is more than good enough.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
If you need to go instate, but can't make UVA or VT, then do it.

It's harder to get into W&M then VT.

not for CS.

True. My friend's kid got into WM for CS, but was waitlisted at VT and rejected at UVA.

4.5gpa female, varsity bball, went to a "diverse" NOVA public school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP - I think it is honestly a very good program because it is not part of an engineering school and so students also have to take part in the liberal arts curriculum. I also believe it is now ranked higher than Mason's CS program

It is not higher than Mason CS.

On USNWR it is. And they are investing a lot into it.

No it isn't. I just looked.

[Anonymous]

GMU is 65 for CS and W&M is 70 or 70 something

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP - I think it is honestly a very good program because it is not part of an engineering school and so students also have to take part in the liberal arts curriculum. I also believe it is now ranked higher than Mason's CS program

It is not higher than Mason CS.

On USNWR it is. And they are investing a lot into it.

No it isn't. I just looked.

You looked at grad rankings, undergrad is behind a paywall.

W&M is ranked #65 for undergrad, Mason is #72

https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/yrhu3m/us_news_2023_ranking_of_best_undergraduate/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
If you need to go instate, but can't make UVA or VT, then do it.

It's harder to get into W&M then VT.

not for CS.

True. My friend's kid got into WM for CS, but was waitlisted at VT and rejected at UVA.

4.5gpa female, varsity bball, went to a "diverse" NOVA public school.

Damn my daughter doesn't stand a chance at VT for CS. 4.3 GPA, no scores, Varsity sports, and diverse NOVA public.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
If you need to go instate, but can't make UVA or VT, then do it.

It's harder to get into W&M then VT.

not for CS.

True. My friend's kid got into WM for CS, but was waitlisted at VT and rejected at UVA.

4.5gpa female, varsity bball, went to a "diverse" NOVA public school.

Damn my daughter doesn't stand a chance at VT for CS. 4.3 GPA, no scores, Varsity sports, and diverse NOVA public.

Doesn’t stand a chance at WM unless scores come in at 1500/34+ or she sees a big GPA jump this year or she demonstrates interest like crazy and applies ED. And even then, it’s time to pray.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
If you need to go instate, but can't make UVA or VT, then do it.

It's harder to get into W&M then VT.

not for CS.

True. My friend's kid got into WM for CS, but was waitlisted at VT and rejected at UVA.

4.5gpa female, varsity bball, went to a "diverse" NOVA public school.

Damn my daughter doesn't stand a chance at VT for CS. 4.3 GPA, no scores, Varsity sports, and diverse NOVA public.

Doesn’t stand a chance at WM unless scores come in at 1500/34+ or she sees a big GPA jump this year or she demonstrates interest like crazy and applies ED. And even then, it’s time to pray.

She isn't interested in W&M but is to VT. Yikes!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
If you need to go instate, but can't make UVA or VT, then do it.

It's harder to get into W&M then VT.

not for CS.

True. My friend's kid got into WM for CS, but was waitlisted at VT and rejected at UVA.

4.5gpa female, varsity bball, went to a "diverse" NOVA public school.

Damn my daughter doesn't stand a chance at VT for CS. 4.3 GPA, no scores, Varsity sports, and diverse NOVA public.

I'm the PP. Maybe you're kid will get in. Did she apply ED? My friend's kid only did regular, so that may be why VT wsitlisted her and WM accepted.

[Anonymous]

I meant early ACTION, Not ED.