My kid is in a class with a chair thrower

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Anonymous wrote:Ask to be changed to another class. IF your kid get's hurt, file a police report for assault.

A police report against a 6 year old? Is this real advice or a way to gin up an online brouhaha?

Dp, but when it’s common enough of an issue that it happens in multiple classrooms and the school admin won’t remove the child from the classroom, I can understand why someone would want a police report filed. The presence of a chair-throwing child in a classroom is a clear and present danger to the other children. It shouldn’t be tolerated.

Meh. I'm the PP whose kid dealt with this at PK3 and I don't think the presence of that kid was a "clear and present danger," even though he sent my kid to the nurse (not a chair, knocked her down and threw a ball in her face). I think the problem was lax supervision. The ratios are such that teachers should not have things like this happening more than once - now you know which kid you need to keep an eagle eye on and redirect, so do that.

I still don't know if that little boy was a demon seed or just a kid whose parents let him watch WWE and he didn't know any better. He was 3, ffs. I don't want him thrown on the ground and cuffed, I want him redirected and watched so he learns appropriate behavior. I feel the same way about a first grader. In middle school or high school I would be more inclined to say "if you can't handle this kid let's see what MPD has to offer" but these are very young children you're trying to incarcerate here.

A three year old throwing a ball is very different than a six or seven year old throwing a chair. I don’t think anyone wants MPD involved, but if the administration won’t deal with it, I support parents going over their heads to the police.

We’ll have no teachers left if we normalize first graders throwing chairs at other students or staff.

He also threw a chair at a kid, as I stated in my first post. Yes, the people saying to file a police report *do* want MPD involved, you included. That's what filing a police report is. The teachers who are letting this happen are not the ones I'm worried about. Pay attention! These are very little kids. Take the chair away; you're 4 feet taller than he is.

[Anonymous]

This happened in my son's class when he was in third grade. They would make all of the other children quickly leave the room so they wouldn't get hurt, and the psychologist would come in the room. He would also throw and destroy books, and throw other things. All of the parents complained, no other child did anything close to this.

He was eventually removed from the class and the school. I don't know what happened. I would definitely speak up and be clear that this is unacceptable. If the principal doesn't seem to care, take it to the superintendent.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid got home from first grade today and started telling me there is a kid in his class who is mean to other kids and get SO MAD. Today he got SO MAD he threw a chair. So, what is my recourse here?

Be thankful that your child has the ability to self-regulate - this child does not want to be "bad"
Have compassion and teach your child compassion
Have your child ask the student if there is any thing that helps calm them down that they can help with

If your are looking for other "recourse" - maybe pull your child and enroll them in private school?

Where’s the compassion for the other children in the class? Allowing this to continue does no good for anyone. Not the teachers, not the other students, not the chair thrower. Your compassion is misplaced and misguided. Tolerating this behaviour does not benefit the chair-thrower.

This. The poster who says your recourse is to pull your child and enroll them in private school is an A$$. My kid has a right to go to public school and not be subjected to repeated violent behavior by another child in the room and never addressed. Ridiculous on a level that I can't even fathom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid got home from first grade today and started telling me there is a kid in his class who is mean to other kids and get SO MAD. Today he got SO MAD he threw a chair. So, what is my recourse here?

Be thankful that your child has the ability to self-regulate - this child does not want to be "bad"
Have compassion and teach your child compassion
Have your child ask the student if there is any thing that helps calm them down that they can help with

If your are looking for other "recourse" - maybe pull your child and enroll them in private school?

Where’s the compassion for the other children in the class? Allowing this to continue does no good for anyone. Not the teachers, not the other students, not the chair thrower. Your compassion is misplaced and misguided. Tolerating this behaviour does not benefit the chair-thrower.

My assumption is that is there is a child who is throwing chairs - there is some significant disregulation and the child should have an IEP.
As a part of the IEP, the school needs to consider what support the student needs to be successful in the classroom.
BUT - schools fail children who need this support all the time even when federal law requires it.

You are right - tolerating this does not benefit the chair-thrower. AND the school not providing the appropriate support for the chair-thrower does not benefit the chair-thrower either.

[Anonymous]

My (complete non-angelic) kid and his classmates were traumatized by a kid like this last year in 2nd grade. The kid finally was placed elsewhere in the winter. I don’t know what the answer is other than very expensive solutions like skilled 1:1 aides. I felt badly for the poor little guy who couldn’t control himself, the teacher, and the students who were terrified of what was going to happen every day.

[Anonymous]

Yeah, several years ago a kindergarten child (who we later learned had a history was throwing chairs. The third chair came within an inch of blinding my child. She also got a borderline concussion. There were three adults in the room. It was insane. The school did not do anything or care. They just wanted to cya that they asked her if she had a headache, gave her an ice pack for the large bruise from the chair leg, and tei d to (gaslight?) her into telling me it wasn't so bad. his happened in November. We lost confidence in the school and we're able move her to a private school.

Op, I'm so sorry.

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Anonymous wrote:My (complete non-angelic) kid and his classmates were traumatized by a kid like this last year in 2nd grade. The kid finally was placed elsewhere in the winter. I don’t know what the answer is other than very expensive solutions like skilled 1:1 aides. I felt badly for the poor little guy who couldn’t control himself, the teacher, and the students who were terrified of what was going to happen every day.

1:1 aide s are not highly skilled and get paid 17/hr. The school system avoids using them because they acknowledge that there is no class existing appropriate for the child. The system is insane.

[Anonymous]

My kid had the same thing happen in first grade. In 2013. This isn't a new problem, it's only new to you.

[Anonymous]

Email the principal, cc the teacher. Tell them that your kid does not feel safe at school and ask them what they can implement to keep your child safe. Do this every time there is an incident. The paper trail is important for you and helps the school make the case to the powers that be that the kid’s needs cannot be met in the existing arrangement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ask to be changed to another class. IF your kid get's hurt, file a police report for assault.

A police report against a 6 year old? Is this real advice or a way to gin up an online brouhaha?

Dp, but when it’s common enough of an issue that it happens in multiple classrooms and the school admin won’t remove the child from the classroom, I can understand why someone would want a police report filed. The presence of a chair-throwing child in a classroom is a clear and present danger to the other children. It shouldn’t be tolerated.

Meh. I'm the PP whose kid dealt with this at PK3 and I don't think the presence of that kid was a "clear and present danger," even though he sent my kid to the nurse (not a chair, knocked her down and threw a ball in her face). I think the problem was lax supervision. The ratios are such that teachers should not have things like this happening more than once - now you know which kid you need to keep an eagle eye on and redirect, so do that.

I still don't know if that little boy was a demon seed or just a kid whose parents let him watch WWE and he didn't know any better. He was 3, ffs. I don't want him thrown on the ground and cuffed, I want him redirected and watched so he learns appropriate behavior. I feel the same way about a first grader. In middle school or high school I would be more inclined to say "if you can't handle this kid let's see what MPD has to offer" but these are very young children you're trying to incarcerate here.

Ugh! There are more possible causes for this type of behavior than bad kid and bad parents!!!!!!!!!!! There is trauma. There are various diagnoses. As a parent of a special needs child who used to hit and is doing MUCH better, I assure you that parents and teachers are wishing overtime behind the scenes to try to fix this. We were able to turn things around for my kid by spending thousands of dollars. He was never a bad kid. I was never a bad parent. Yes, there are checked out parents. But your sunroom that there must be a bad pattern involved is just so insulting, I can hardly stand it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My (complete non-angelic) kid and his classmates were traumatized by a kid like this last year in 2nd grade. The kid finally was placed elsewhere in the winter. I don’t know what the answer is other than very expensive solutions like skilled 1:1 aides. I felt badly for the poor little guy who couldn’t control himself, the teacher, and the students who were terrified of what was going to happen every day.

And the poor parents who are typically rejected by the community.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My kid got home from first grade today and started telling me there is a kid in his class who is mean to other kids and get SO MAD. Today he got SO MAD he threw a chair. So, what is my recourse here?

Be thankful that your child has the ability to self-regulate - this child does not want to be "bad"
Have compassion and teach your child compassion
Have your child ask the student if there is any thing that helps calm them down that they can help with

If your are looking for other "recourse" - maybe pull your child and enroll them in private school?

Np. I don’t give a you know what that your 6 year old can’t self regulate, he is d a n g e r o u s. Kids like this should not be allowed in a regular classroom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ask to be changed to another class. IF your kid get's hurt, file a police report for assault.

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[Anonymous]

Complain IN WRITING EVERY TIME that this happens. Encourage other parents in the class to do the same. Use the phrase "my child does not feel safe at school." It may take a few months but eventually the child will be removed.

[Anonymous]

Violent kid should be moved into a virtual classroom ASAP.