Feds - are you worried about job security/climate in the next administration?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People need to read about some of the insanity the R’s are plotting if they take back the WH. Eliminating independent agencies, mass converting everyone to Schedule F, etc.

I'm worried, but I also think that the change won't be as severe. They're not able to convert everyone to Schedule F. It would be 10-20k policymaking employees throughout the federal government.

[Anonymous]

If one must be strictly apolitical and fair, some of the behaviors at the FBI, DoJ and even IRS were decidedly not apolitical and very partisan driven. The hearings over Hunter Biden and the IRS and FBI has been damaging to the concept of an apolitical agency. I can have sympathy for Republicans on the warpath. The sad part is that many innocent people and jobs could be wiped out.

I don't know what will happen if Turnip manages to get reelected. I don't think he will. But assuming he is, and has a R congress, what happens next is anyone's game. Turnip has historically been more bark than bite and didn't achieve a whole lot under his previous administration. I don't think he has the discipline nor attention span for massive agency reform.

[Anonymous]

I decided not to apply for a term job at a higher level in environmental review in part because I'm concerned about job security, and think it may be safer to stay in a permanent position that is extremely unlikely to be targeted or RIFed (which could happen under Biden if the next budget is a disaster).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If one must be strictly apolitical and fair, some of the behaviors at the FBI, DoJ and even IRS were decidedly not apolitical and very partisan driven. The hearings over Hunter Biden and the IRS and FBI has been damaging to the concept of an apolitical agency. I can have sympathy for Republicans on the warpath. The sad part is that many innocent people and jobs could be wiped out.

This is untrue and is just spin from unhappy Republicans.

They have publicly stated that their goal is to make federal agencies MORE partisan by abolishing certain protections and longstanding firewalls. But if the FBI, DOJ, etc. are truly under Biden’s thumb, there should be no need to do that since it means whoever’s president can already control things however they want.

[Anonymous]

We need to eliminate a lot of fed agencies so yes, I would be worried.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If one must be strictly apolitical and fair, some of the behaviors at the FBI, DoJ and even IRS were decidedly not apolitical and very partisan driven. The hearings over Hunter Biden and the IRS and FBI has been damaging to the concept of an apolitical agency. I can have sympathy for Republicans on the warpath. The sad part is that many innocent people and jobs could be wiped out.

I don't know what will happen if Turnip manages to get reelected. I don't think he will. But assuming he is, and has a R congress, what happens next is anyone's game. Turnip has historically been more bark than bite and didn't achieve a whole lot under his previous administration. I don't think he has the discipline nor attention span for massive agency reform.

I am an Independent and I don't think that's correct. Certainly, I don't see it that way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We need to eliminate a lot of fed agencies so yes, I would be worried.

which ones you want to eliminate?

[Anonymous]

Does anyone know which 50,000 federal employees have been identified for reclassification and potential termination?
https://www.govexec.com/workforce/2023/06/desantis-pledges-eliminate-agencies-and-slash-federal-workforce-following-long-line-recent-gop-candidates/388108/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have worked under several administrations. The party does not correspond to much. It depends where you work. Some agencies are always more favored under one administration than another and you’ll talk to people who will tell you it was worst under Bush or Obama, depending on the situation at their agency at that time.

Your job is to remain apolitical at work and do your job to the best of your ability, given the resources you have in the best interest of the American public. Leaving helps nothing, does it? It can be easier to work at an agency that isn’t that politically divisive. Like, if you work for CFPB you will always be anxious.

If you’re looking to leave because you’re worried about the potential reclassification of your job….which loses security over the job you are thinking to leave?

Anyway. It’s up to you…..Federal service isn’t for everyone.

I have also worked for several administrations and I think you did not read OP's comment. The Republican party these days is nothing like the Republican party of Bush and prior Republican administrations. Donald Trump politicized the issue of civil service, which is a huge distractions for public servants like us who just want to work hard and go home at the end of the day.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a federal lawyer who is pretty moderate and strive to be apolitical. During the last administration, it was quite worrisome to hear people in power constantly attacking federal employees and the deep state, and it just fees like that will be on turbocharge in the next administration. Interested if others are looking for non-gov jobs already. I love my coworkers and my agency, but I just don't know if I can take another four years of this. I also worry that they'll reclassify a lot of our jobs so we lose civil service protections.

If DT wins 2024, it will be pretty bad. I think his revenge tour will be a bloodbath for many agencies.

If he wins, I think Fed jobs will be the least of our problems.

True. I am a contractor for a federal agency that deals with environmental issues, and during the Trump administration, we weren’t even allowed to mention climate change.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We need to eliminate a lot of fed agencies so yes, I would be worried.

Who’s “we”?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Reagan fired all the air traffic controllers, right?

As he should have. We as Feds take an oath not to strike.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a federal lawyer who is pretty moderate and strive to be apolitical. During the last administration, it was quite worrisome to hear people in power constantly attacking federal employees and the deep state, and it just fees like that will be on turbocharge in the next administration. Interested if others are looking for non-gov jobs already. I love my coworkers and my agency, but I just don't know if I can take another four years of this. I also worry that they'll reclassify a lot of our jobs so we lose civil service protections.

If DT wins 2024, it will be pretty bad. I think his revenge tour will be a bloodbath for many agencies.

If he wins, I think Fed jobs will be the least of our problems.

This +1000. My job wouldn’t be Schedule F, but a lot of important executive branch policy jobs would be, and if we go R (not just Trump, de Santis is the same) we would likely see a bunch of novice dogmatic sycophants installed because of their partisan allegiance or just for bribery (“political contributions”). The government would do less, create churn, displace people and jobs, and probably end up costing more in the end. If there’s one thing we should have learned from the last administration it’s that some kids enjoy breaking other people’s toys and kicking puppies.

[Anonymous]

I'm not worried about it because Biden is going to win in 2024 and Trump isn't going to be a viable 2028 candidate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm not worried about it because Biden is going to win in 2024 and Trump isn't going to be a viable 2028 candidate.

Let me introduce you to No Labels, Cornel West, and Joe Manchin.