DC council wants to boot cars even if tickets were paid

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Proposing booting cars with speeding tickets.
Isn't this sort of double jeopardy? Paid your fine but still face extra sanctions?
I could see someone deciding not to pay speeding tickets if they're still at risk for being towed.
IMO it would make more sense for owners of vehicles with multiple tickets to be required to go to traffic school or some such. Or maybe escalating tickets
Many of DC's speed zones are also unreasonable, IMO, or not clearly marked
I got a ticket for traveling at 37 in a 25mph zone, but the speed limit sign was covered by trees

They do it on purpose.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Proposing booting cars with speeding tickets.
Isn't this sort of double jeopardy? Paid your fine but still face extra sanctions?
I could see someone deciding not to pay speeding tickets if they're still at risk for being towed.
IMO it would make more sense for owners of vehicles with multiple tickets to be required to go to traffic school or some such. Or maybe escalating tickets
Many of DC's speed zones are also unreasonable, IMO, or not clearly marked
I got a ticket for traveling at 37 in a 25mph zone, but the speed limit sign was covered by trees

They do it on purpose.

+1
And setting artificially low speed limits.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Proposing booting cars with speeding tickets.
Isn't this sort of double jeopardy? Paid your fine but still face extra sanctions?
I could see someone deciding not to pay speeding tickets if they're still at risk for being towed.
IMO it would make more sense for owners of vehicles with multiple tickets to be required to go to traffic school or some such. Or maybe escalating tickets
Many of DC's speed zones are also unreasonable, IMO, or not clearly marked
I got a ticket for traveling at 37 in a 25mph zone, but the speed limit sign was covered by trees

They do it on purpose.

+1
And setting artificially low speed limits.

There's nothing "artificially low" about 25 in a densely populated city with foot traffic. Your expectations are unreasonable.

Leave your house earlier and drive the speed limit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe they should prioritize booting cars with unpaid tickets? Seems like that can keep them busy for years based on recent news reports.

Those people aren't going to follow the rules anyway. If they don't pay their tickers, they are just going to cut off the boot.

So DC shouldn't bother with booting, they should just impound the car and not give it back?

That would keep these people from earning a living and would inequitable since these people don't have WFH jobs. So, no. The people that should be penalized are those thaf follow the rules. Otherwise, enforcement is too expensive.

You are assuming all speeders are poor?

Speeding tickets are a flat tax, and therefore inequitable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe they should prioritize booting cars with unpaid tickets? Seems like that can keep them busy for years based on recent news reports.

Those people aren't going to follow the rules anyway. If they don't pay their tickers, they are just going to cut off the boot.

So DC shouldn't bother with booting, they should just impound the car and not give it back?

That would keep these people from earning a living and would inequitable since these people don't have WFH jobs. So, no. The people that should be penalized are those thaf follow the rules. Otherwise, enforcement is too expensive.

You are assuming all speeders are poor?

Speeding tickets are a flat tax, and therefore inequitable.

Don’t do the crime…

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe they should prioritize booting cars with unpaid tickets? Seems like that can keep them busy for years based on recent news reports.

Those people aren't going to follow the rules anyway. If they don't pay their tickers, they are just going to cut off the boot.

So DC shouldn't bother with booting, they should just impound the car and not give it back?

That would keep these people from earning a living and would inequitable since these people don't have WFH jobs. So, no. The people that should be penalized are those thaf follow the rules. Otherwise, enforcement is too expensive.

You are assuming all speeders are poor?

Speeding tickets are a flat tax, and therefore inequitable.

Ok what would be equitable? Just cause you are poor doesn’t mean you can drive 50 mph over the speed limit and park wherever you want with no consequences.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Proposing booting cars with speeding tickets.
Isn't this sort of double jeopardy? Paid your fine but still face extra sanctions?
I could see someone deciding not to pay speeding tickets if they're still at risk for being towed.
IMO it would make more sense for owners of vehicles with multiple tickets to be required to go to traffic school or some such. Or maybe escalating tickets
Many of DC's speed zones are also unreasonable, IMO, or not clearly marked
I got a ticket for traveling at 37 in a 25mph zone, but the speed limit sign was covered by trees

They do it on purpose.

+1
And setting artificially low speed limits.

There's nothing "artificially low" about 25 in a densely populated city with foot traffic. Your expectations are unreasonable.

Leave your house earlier and drive the speed limit.

Or, even easier: investigate ways to get where you're going without driving. Then you're 100% guaranteed not to get a speeding citation.

[Anonymous]

They should boot any car that has multiple unpaid tickets but if there is any prioritization they should focus on the unsafe drivers (speeders, red-light-runners etc) over the parking offenders.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They should boot any car that has multiple unpaid tickets but if there is any prioritization they should focus on the unsafe drivers (speeders, red-light-runners etc) over the parking offenders.

Why do you think DC does not boot cars? If you have two unpaid tickets they boot. They come through our neighborhood every 6-8 months.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe they should prioritize booting cars with unpaid tickets? Seems like that can keep them busy for years based on recent news reports.

Those people aren't going to follow the rules anyway. If they don't pay their tickers, they are just going to cut off the boot.

So DC shouldn't bother with booting, they should just impound the car and not give it back?

I think if a car has numerous unpaid tickets for speeding, running red lights and other reckless and dangerous behaviors then it should definitely be impounded rather than booted. Likewise, if they are running with fake tags. Don't boot it, just impound it. And if nobody shows up to reclaim the car or pay, put it up for auction.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe they should prioritize booting cars with unpaid tickets? Seems like that can keep them busy for years based on recent news reports.

Those people aren't going to follow the rules anyway. If they don't pay their tickers, they are just going to cut off the boot.

So DC shouldn't bother with booting, they should just impound the car and not give it back?

That would keep these people from earning a living and would inequitable since these people don't have WFH jobs. So, no. The people that should be penalized are those thaf follow the rules. Otherwise, enforcement is too expensive.

You are assuming all speeders are poor?

Speeding tickets are a flat tax, and therefore inequitable.

Being poor does not give one an excuse to speed or run red lights. Sorry.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They should boot any car that has multiple unpaid tickets but if there is any prioritization they should focus on the unsafe drivers (speeders, red-light-runners etc) over the parking offenders.

Why do you think DC does not boot cars? If you have two unpaid tickets they boot. They come through our neighborhood every 6-8 months.

Of course they do. But they aren't booting anywhere near enough cars. There's hundreds of millions in outstanding unpaid tickets.

[Anonymous]

Maybe DC is starting to take it seriously.

https://dcist.com/story/23/07/10/series-of-d-c-council-bills-aim-to-get-dangerous-drivers-off-the-roads-faster/

[Anonymous]

DC should offer a discount on registration for low-income and offer to pay some of the insurance for them if they have no unpaid tickets. Give a 3-month grace period for people to come current, then impound the hell out of cars with fake/illegal tags (there's a guy who parks in my neighborhood with virginia "farm use" tags) and ones with unpaid tickets.

The folks who say "well you're just as bad a driver if you get a lot of tickets and pay them"--show me that there is any car that gets at least 10 tickets a year and is not currently tow-eligible and then we can talk about that. I am not sure there really are people who get that many tickets and pay them. If there are, there could be different solutions depending on who they are--like are they a home health aide or construction worker or delivery person who can't find legal parking? Are they someone who speeds and runs red lights every day? The deterrents would be different for each. But we don't have to think much about the deterrents unless these cars actually exist. If they don't, and the worst drivers are in fact the ones with lots of unpaid tickets, increasing towing is a good solution. And hiring more tow crews is a good way to increase employment in DC.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe they should prioritize booting cars with unpaid tickets? Seems like that can keep them busy for years based on recent news reports.

Those people aren't going to follow the rules anyway. If they don't pay their tickers, they are just going to cut off the boot.

So DC shouldn't bother with booting, they should just impound the car and not give it back?

That would keep these people from earning a living and would inequitable since these people don't have WFH jobs. So, no. The people that should be penalized are those thaf follow the rules. Otherwise, enforcement is too expensive.

You are assuming all speeders are poor?

Speeding tickets are a flat tax, and therefore inequitable.

No they vary based on speed over limit $100-$500.