Question about the homophobia thread

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:I got tired of removing posts that I considered hateful from that thread. Of course, the authors of those posts will deny that they are hateful because they obviously believe that calling trans women men and accusing them of having mental health issues are just differences of opinion. But, I don't find such posts acceptable.

Every trans-related thread here ultimately goes the same way. It's just too much effort to try to keep the threads civil.

My kid has identified as trans. He most definitely has mental health issues, diagnosed well before. OCD and on the spectrum. What's cruel is the medical community and trans community preying on him, determined to separate him from a family who has always been his advocate.

Yes, you have been repeating this non-stop. It is very clear that you are not willing to accept your child's trans identity and prefer to view them as mentally ill and a victim of groomers. That is not a healthy attitude and, as you are seeing, the results are not good. I hope that your child will find love and support from those who truly are their advocate.

Can you please tell me how you can be so sure of my child's medical history?

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:I got tired of removing posts that I considered hateful from that thread. Of course, the authors of those posts will deny that they are hateful because they obviously believe that calling trans women men and accusing them of having mental health issues are just differences of opinion. But, I don't find such posts acceptable.

Every trans-related thread here ultimately goes the same way. It's just too much effort to try to keep the threads civil.

My kid has identified as trans. He most definitely has mental health issues, diagnosed well before. OCD and on the spectrum. What's cruel is the medical community and trans community preying on him, determined to separate him from a family who has always been his advocate.

Yes, you have been repeating this non-stop. It is very clear that you are not willing to accept your child's trans identity and prefer to view them as mentally ill and a victim of groomers. That is not a healthy attitude and, as you are seeing, the results are not good. I hope that your child will find love and support from those who truly are their advocate.

Can you please tell me how you can be so sure of my child's medical history?

I did not comment on your child's medical history. Your inability to accept them as trans is very clear and you repeatedly document the negative outcome of your lack of acceptance.

BTW, you refer to your child with male pronouns. Are those your kid's preferred pronouns?

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:I got tired of removing posts that I considered hateful from that thread. Of course, the authors of those posts will deny that they are hateful because they obviously believe that calling trans women men and accusing them of having mental health issues are just differences of opinion. But, I don't find such posts acceptable.

Every trans-related thread here ultimately goes the same way. It's just too much effort to try to keep the threads civil.

My kid has identified as trans. He most definitely has mental health issues, diagnosed well before. OCD and on the spectrum. What's cruel is the medical community and trans community preying on him, determined to separate him from a family who has always been his advocate.

Yes, you have been repeating this non-stop. It is very clear that you are not willing to accept your child's trans identity and prefer to view them as mentally ill and a victim of groomers. That is not a healthy attitude and, as you are seeing, the results are not good. I hope that your child will find love and support from those who truly are their advocate.

Can you please tell me how you can be so sure of my child's medical history?

I did not comment on your child's medical history. Your inability to accept them as trans is very clear and you repeatedly document the negative outcome of your lack of acceptance.

BTW, you refer to your child with male pronouns. Are those your kid's preferred pronouns?

You absolutely did. I bolded it. I asked you if you have access to my child's medical history, from childhood on. And if you have access to my child's interactions with his doctors and therapists. Because you are making a lot of accusations and assumptions without any data, if you don't.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:I got tired of removing posts that I considered hateful from that thread. Of course, the authors of those posts will deny that they are hateful because they obviously believe that calling trans women men and accusing them of having mental health issues are just differences of opinion. But, I don't find such posts acceptable.

Every trans-related thread here ultimately goes the same way. It's just too much effort to try to keep the threads civil.

My kid has identified as trans. He most definitely has mental health issues, diagnosed well before. OCD and on the spectrum. What's cruel is the medical community and trans community preying on him, determined to separate him from a family who has always been his advocate.

Yes, you have been repeating this non-stop. It is very clear that you are not willing to accept your child's trans identity and prefer to view them as mentally ill and a victim of groomers. That is not a healthy attitude and, as you are seeing, the results are not good. I hope that your child will find love and support from those who truly are their advocate.

Can you please tell me how you can be so sure of my child's medical history?

I did not comment on your child's medical history. Your inability to accept them as trans is very clear and you repeatedly document the negative outcome of your lack of acceptance.

BTW, you refer to your child with male pronouns. Are those your kid's preferred pronouns?

You absolutely did. I bolded it. I asked you if you have access to my child's medical history, from childhood on. And if you have access to my child's interactions with his doctors and therapists. Because you are making a lot of accusations and assumptions without any data, if you don't.

I commented on your preference for viewing your child as mentally ill. Do you view your child's gender identity as a mental illness? Do you respect your child's gender identity in even the most basic way by using preferred pronouns? Everything you have written suggests that rather than providing your child support, you treat them as defective and mentally ill. Then, you blame others for your alienation.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:I got tired of removing posts that I considered hateful from that thread. Of course, the authors of those posts will deny that they are hateful because they obviously believe that calling trans women men and accusing them of having mental health issues are just differences of opinion. But, I don't find such posts acceptable.

Every trans-related thread here ultimately goes the same way. It's just too much effort to try to keep the threads civil.

My kid has identified as trans. He most definitely has mental health issues, diagnosed well before. OCD and on the spectrum. What's cruel is the medical community and trans community preying on him, determined to separate him from a family who has always been his advocate.

Yes, you have been repeating this non-stop. It is very clear that you are not willing to accept your child's trans identity and prefer to view them as mentally ill and a victim of groomers. That is not a healthy attitude and, as you are seeing, the results are not good. I hope that your child will find love and support from those who truly are their advocate.

Can you please tell me how you can be so sure of my child's medical history?

I did not comment on your child's medical history. Your inability to accept them as trans is very clear and you repeatedly document the negative outcome of your lack of acceptance.

BTW, you refer to your child with male pronouns. Are those your kid's preferred pronouns?

You absolutely did. I bolded it. I asked you if you have access to my child's medical history, from childhood on. And if you have access to my child's interactions with his doctors and therapists. Because you are making a lot of accusations and assumptions without any data, if you don't.

I commented on your preference for viewing your child as mentally ill. Do you view your child's gender identity as a mental illness? Do you respect your child's gender identity in even the most basic way by using preferred pronouns? Everything you have written suggests that rather than providing your child support, you treat them as defective and mentally ill. Then, you blame others for your alienation.

NP. You’re not helping anyone’s case here. The PP clearly stated their child was diagnosed with mental health issues long before they identified as trans.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:I got tired of removing posts that I considered hateful from that thread. Of course, the authors of those posts will deny that they are hateful because they obviously believe that calling trans women men and accusing them of having mental health issues are just differences of opinion. But, I don't find such posts acceptable.

Every trans-related thread here ultimately goes the same way. It's just too much effort to try to keep the threads civil.

My kid has identified as trans. He most definitely has mental health issues, diagnosed well before. OCD and on the spectrum. What's cruel is the medical community and trans community preying on him, determined to separate him from a family who has always been his advocate.

Yes, you have been repeating this non-stop. It is very clear that you are not willing to accept your child's trans identity and prefer to view them as mentally ill and a victim of groomers. That is not a healthy attitude and, as you are seeing, the results are not good. I hope that your child will find love and support from those who truly are their advocate.

Can you please tell me how you can be so sure of my child's medical history?

I did not comment on your child's medical history. Your inability to accept them as trans is very clear and you repeatedly document the negative outcome of your lack of acceptance.

BTW, you refer to your child with male pronouns. Are those your kid's preferred pronouns?

You absolutely did. I bolded it. I asked you if you have access to my child's medical history, from childhood on. And if you have access to my child's interactions with his doctors and therapists. Because you are making a lot of accusations and assumptions without any data, if you don't.

I commented on your preference for viewing your child as mentally ill. Do you view your child's gender identity as a mental illness? Do you respect your child's gender identity in even the most basic way by using preferred pronouns? Everything you have written suggests that rather than providing your child support, you treat them as defective and mentally ill. Then, you blame others for your alienation.

NP. You’re not helping anyone’s case here. The PP clearly stated their child was diagnosed with mental health issues long before they identified as trans.

Right, but she has a reductive view of her child, only seeing her child as mentally ill and using that as an excuse to reject her child's trans identity. That has predictably resulted in alienation which she blames on everyone else. Moreover, she is extrapolating from that to justify calling all trans people mentally ill. That's why she got in this conversation which had nothing to do with her in the first place.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:I got tired of removing posts that I considered hateful from that thread. Of course, the authors of those posts will deny that they are hateful because they obviously believe that calling trans women men and accusing them of having mental health issues are just differences of opinion. But, I don't find such posts acceptable.

Every trans-related thread here ultimately goes the same way. It's just too much effort to try to keep the threads civil.

My kid has identified as trans. He most definitely has mental health issues, diagnosed well before. OCD and on the spectrum. What's cruel is the medical community and trans community preying on him, determined to separate him from a family who has always been his advocate.

Yes, you have been repeating this non-stop. It is very clear that you are not willing to accept your child's trans identity and prefer to view them as mentally ill and a victim of groomers. That is not a healthy attitude and, as you are seeing, the results are not good. I hope that your child will find love and support from those who truly are their advocate.

Can you please tell me how you can be so sure of my child's medical history?

I did not comment on your child's medical history. Your inability to accept them as trans is very clear and you repeatedly document the negative outcome of your lack of acceptance.

BTW, you refer to your child with male pronouns. Are those your kid's preferred pronouns?

You absolutely did. I bolded it. I asked you if you have access to my child's medical history, from childhood on. And if you have access to my child's interactions with his doctors and therapists. Because you are making a lot of accusations and assumptions without any data, if you don't.

I commented on your preference for viewing your child as mentally ill. Do you view your child's gender identity as a mental illness? Do you respect your child's gender identity in even the most basic way by using preferred pronouns? Everything you have written suggests that rather than providing your child support, you treat them as defective and mentally ill. Then, you blame others for your alienation.

NP. You’re not helping anyone’s case here. The PP clearly stated their child was diagnosed with mental health issues long before they identified as trans.

But it is exposing Jeff for exactly who he is, isn't it.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:I got tired of removing posts that I considered hateful from that thread. Of course, the authors of those posts will deny that they are hateful because they obviously believe that calling trans women men and accusing them of having mental health issues are just differences of opinion. But, I don't find such posts acceptable.

Every trans-related thread here ultimately goes the same way. It's just too much effort to try to keep the threads civil.

My kid has identified as trans. He most definitely has mental health issues, diagnosed well before. OCD and on the spectrum. What's cruel is the medical community and trans community preying on him, determined to separate him from a family who has always been his advocate.

Yes, you have been repeating this non-stop. It is very clear that you are not willing to accept your child's trans identity and prefer to view them as mentally ill and a victim of groomers. That is not a healthy attitude and, as you are seeing, the results are not good. I hope that your child will find love and support from those who truly are their advocate.

Can you please tell me how you can be so sure of my child's medical history?

I did not comment on your child's medical history. Your inability to accept them as trans is very clear and you repeatedly document the negative outcome of your lack of acceptance.

BTW, you refer to your child with male pronouns. Are those your kid's preferred pronouns?

You absolutely did. I bolded it. I asked you if you have access to my child's medical history, from childhood on. And if you have access to my child's interactions with his doctors and therapists. Because you are making a lot of accusations and assumptions without any data, if you don't.

I commented on your preference for viewing your child as mentally ill. Do you view your child's gender identity as a mental illness? Do you respect your child's gender identity in even the most basic way by using preferred pronouns? Everything you have written suggests that rather than providing your child support, you treat them as defective and mentally ill. Then, you blame others for your alienation.

NP. You’re not helping anyone’s case here. The PP clearly stated their child was diagnosed with mental health issues long before they identified as trans.

But it is exposing Jeff for exactly who he is, isn't it.

Hey, I'm happy to be so exposed.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:I got tired of removing posts that I considered hateful from that thread. Of course, the authors of those posts will deny that they are hateful because they obviously believe that calling trans women men and accusing them of having mental health issues are just differences of opinion. But, I don't find such posts acceptable.

Every trans-related thread here ultimately goes the same way. It's just too much effort to try to keep the threads civil.

My kid has identified as trans. He most definitely has mental health issues, diagnosed well before. OCD and on the spectrum. What's cruel is the medical community and trans community preying on him, determined to separate him from a family who has always been his advocate.

Yes, you have been repeating this non-stop. It is very clear that you are not willing to accept your child's trans identity and prefer to view them as mentally ill and a victim of groomers. That is not a healthy attitude and, as you are seeing, the results are not good. I hope that your child will find love and support from those who truly are their advocate.

Can you please tell me how you can be so sure of my child's medical history?

I did not comment on your child's medical history. Your inability to accept them as trans is very clear and you repeatedly document the negative outcome of your lack of acceptance.

BTW, you refer to your child with male pronouns. Are those your kid's preferred pronouns?

You absolutely did. I bolded it. I asked you if you have access to my child's medical history, from childhood on. And if you have access to my child's interactions with his doctors and therapists. Because you are making a lot of accusations and assumptions without any data, if you don't.

I commented on your preference for viewing your child as mentally ill. Do you view your child's gender identity as a mental illness? Do you respect your child's gender identity in even the most basic way by using preferred pronouns? Everything you have written suggests that rather than providing your child support, you treat them as defective and mentally ill. Then, you blame others for your alienation.

NP. You’re not helping anyone’s case here. The PP clearly stated their child was diagnosed with mental health issues long before they identified as trans.

Right, but she has a reductive view of her child, only seeing her child as mentally ill and using that as an excuse to reject her child's trans identity. That has predictably resulted in alienation which she blames on everyone else. Moreover, she is extrapolating from that to justify calling all trans people mentally ill. That's why she got in this conversation which had nothing to do with her in the first place.

I have said NOTHING of the sort. I stated that my own child was diagnosed with OCD well prior to when this whole trans movement exploded. And has been diagnosed on the spectrum since early childhood. YOU seem to believe that this issue is black and white, that when a child states he/she is transgender, he/she definitely is. Some are, some aren't and there's a lot to unwrap with this issue, especially when there are previous mental health diagnosis. Since you do not have the full picture into MY child's particular situation, making your own 'diagnosis' is its own form of delusion. It shows the danger of activism in full view and demonstrates EXACTLY how some children are preyed upon. YOU, in your infinite leftist wisdom, has decided that MY child is transgender and that ME, as that child's PARENT, is clearly unfit to raise him. And you call conservatives tyrants? Wow.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:I got tired of removing posts that I considered hateful from that thread. Of course, the authors of those posts will deny that they are hateful because they obviously believe that calling trans women men and accusing them of having mental health issues are just differences of opinion. But, I don't find such posts acceptable.

Every trans-related thread here ultimately goes the same way. It's just too much effort to try to keep the threads civil.

My kid has identified as trans. He most definitely has mental health issues, diagnosed well before. OCD and on the spectrum. What's cruel is the medical community and trans community preying on him, determined to separate him from a family who has always been his advocate.

Yes, you have been repeating this non-stop. It is very clear that you are not willing to accept your child's trans identity and prefer to view them as mentally ill and a victim of groomers. That is not a healthy attitude and, as you are seeing, the results are not good. I hope that your child will find love and support from those who truly are their advocate.

Can you please tell me how you can be so sure of my child's medical history?

I did not comment on your child's medical history. Your inability to accept them as trans is very clear and you repeatedly document the negative outcome of your lack of acceptance.

BTW, you refer to your child with male pronouns. Are those your kid's preferred pronouns?

You absolutely did. I bolded it. I asked you if you have access to my child's medical history, from childhood on. And if you have access to my child's interactions with his doctors and therapists. Because you are making a lot of accusations and assumptions without any data, if you don't.

I commented on your preference for viewing your child as mentally ill. Do you view your child's gender identity as a mental illness? Do you respect your child's gender identity in even the most basic way by using preferred pronouns? Everything you have written suggests that rather than providing your child support, you treat them as defective and mentally ill. Then, you blame others for your alienation.

NP. You’re not helping anyone’s case here. The PP clearly stated their child was diagnosed with mental health issues long before they identified as trans.

But it is exposing Jeff for exactly who he is, isn't it.

Hey, I'm happy to be so exposed.

Good that you are on record as well.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:I got tired of removing posts that I considered hateful from that thread. Of course, the authors of those posts will deny that they are hateful because they obviously believe that calling trans women men and accusing them of having mental health issues are just differences of opinion. But, I don't find such posts acceptable.

Every trans-related thread here ultimately goes the same way. It's just too much effort to try to keep the threads civil.

My kid has identified as trans. He most definitely has mental health issues, diagnosed well before. OCD and on the spectrum. What's cruel is the medical community and trans community preying on him, determined to separate him from a family who has always been his advocate.

Yes, you have been repeating this non-stop. It is very clear that you are not willing to accept your child's trans identity and prefer to view them as mentally ill and a victim of groomers. That is not a healthy attitude and, as you are seeing, the results are not good. I hope that your child will find love and support from those who truly are their advocate.

Can you please tell me how you can be so sure of my child's medical history?

I did not comment on your child's medical history. Your inability to accept them as trans is very clear and you repeatedly document the negative outcome of your lack of acceptance.

BTW, you refer to your child with male pronouns. Are those your kid's preferred pronouns?

You absolutely did. I bolded it. I asked you if you have access to my child's medical history, from childhood on. And if you have access to my child's interactions with his doctors and therapists. Because you are making a lot of accusations and assumptions without any data, if you don't.

I commented on your preference for viewing your child as mentally ill. Do you view your child's gender identity as a mental illness? Do you respect your child's gender identity in even the most basic way by using preferred pronouns? Everything you have written suggests that rather than providing your child support, you treat them as defective and mentally ill. Then, you blame others for your alienation.

NP. You’re not helping anyone’s case here. The PP clearly stated their child was diagnosed with mental health issues long before they identified as trans.

Right, but she has a reductive view of her child, only seeing her child as mentally ill and using that as an excuse to reject her child's trans identity. That has predictably resulted in alienation which she blames on everyone else. Moreover, she is extrapolating from that to justify calling all trans people mentally ill. That's why she got in this conversation which had nothing to do with her in the first place.

Oh, and I am not alienated from my child, though attempts were made by one therapist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:I got tired of removing posts that I considered hateful from that thread. Of course, the authors of those posts will deny that they are hateful because they obviously believe that calling trans women men and accusing them of having mental health issues are just differences of opinion. But, I don't find such posts acceptable.

Every trans-related thread here ultimately goes the same way. It's just too much effort to try to keep the threads civil.

My kid has identified as trans. He most definitely has mental health issues, diagnosed well before. OCD and on the spectrum. What's cruel is the medical community and trans community preying on him, determined to separate him from a family who has always been his advocate.

Yes, you have been repeating this non-stop. It is very clear that you are not willing to accept your child's trans identity and prefer to view them as mentally ill and a victim of groomers. That is not a healthy attitude and, as you are seeing, the results are not good. I hope that your child will find love and support from those who truly are their advocate.

Can you please tell me how you can be so sure of my child's medical history?

I did not comment on your child's medical history. Your inability to accept them as trans is very clear and you repeatedly document the negative outcome of your lack of acceptance.

BTW, you refer to your child with male pronouns. Are those your kid's preferred pronouns?

You absolutely did. I bolded it. I asked you if you have access to my child's medical history, from childhood on. And if you have access to my child's interactions with his doctors and therapists. Because you are making a lot of accusations and assumptions without any data, if you don't.

I commented on your preference for viewing your child as mentally ill. Do you view your child's gender identity as a mental illness? Do you respect your child's gender identity in even the most basic way by using preferred pronouns? Everything you have written suggests that rather than providing your child support, you treat them as defective and mentally ill. Then, you blame others for your alienation.

NP. You’re not helping anyone’s case here. The PP clearly stated their child was diagnosed with mental health issues long before they identified as trans.

Right, but she has a reductive view of her child, only seeing her child as mentally ill and using that as an excuse to reject her child's trans identity. That has predictably resulted in alienation which she blames on everyone else. Moreover, she is extrapolating from that to justify calling all trans people mentally ill. That's why she got in this conversation which had nothing to do with her in the first place.

I have said NOTHING of the sort. I stated that my own child was diagnosed with OCD well prior to when this whole trans movement exploded. And has been diagnosed on the spectrum since early childhood. YOU seem to believe that this issue is black and white, that when a child states he/she is transgender, he/she definitely is. Some are, some aren't and there's a lot to unwrap with this issue, especially when there are previous mental health diagnosis. Since you do not have the full picture into MY child's particular situation, making your own 'diagnosis' is its own form of delusion. It shows the danger of activism in full view and demonstrates EXACTLY how some children are preyed upon. YOU, in your infinite leftist wisdom, has decided that MY child is transgender and that ME, as that child's PARENT, is clearly unfit to raise him. And you call conservatives tyrants? Wow.

"Well-intentioned" and "loving" parents used to send their kids to "pray the gay away camps" too. Just saying. Just because you gave birth to your child and love him/her on some level, doesn't mean you are doing right by them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:I got tired of removing posts that I considered hateful from that thread. Of course, the authors of those posts will deny that they are hateful because they obviously believe that calling trans women men and accusing them of having mental health issues are just differences of opinion. But, I don't find such posts acceptable.

Every trans-related thread here ultimately goes the same way. It's just too much effort to try to keep the threads civil.

My kid has identified as trans. He most definitely has mental health issues, diagnosed well before. OCD and on the spectrum. What's cruel is the medical community and trans community preying on him, determined to separate him from a family who has always been his advocate.

Yes, you have been repeating this non-stop. It is very clear that you are not willing to accept your child's trans identity and prefer to view them as mentally ill and a victim of groomers. That is not a healthy attitude and, as you are seeing, the results are not good. I hope that your child will find love and support from those who truly are their advocate.

Can you please tell me how you can be so sure of my child's medical history?

I did not comment on your child's medical history. Your inability to accept them as trans is very clear and you repeatedly document the negative outcome of your lack of acceptance.

BTW, you refer to your child with male pronouns. Are those your kid's preferred pronouns?

You absolutely did. I bolded it. I asked you if you have access to my child's medical history, from childhood on. And if you have access to my child's interactions with his doctors and therapists. Because you are making a lot of accusations and assumptions without any data, if you don't.

I commented on your preference for viewing your child as mentally ill. Do you view your child's gender identity as a mental illness? Do you respect your child's gender identity in even the most basic way by using preferred pronouns? Everything you have written suggests that rather than providing your child support, you treat them as defective and mentally ill. Then, you blame others for your alienation.

NP. You’re not helping anyone’s case here. The PP clearly stated their child was diagnosed with mental health issues long before they identified as trans.

Right, but she has a reductive view of her child, only seeing her child as mentally ill and using that as an excuse to reject her child's trans identity. That has predictably resulted in alienation which she blames on everyone else. Moreover, she is extrapolating from that to justify calling all trans people mentally ill. That's why she got in this conversation which had nothing to do with her in the first place.

I have said NOTHING of the sort. I stated that my own child was diagnosed with OCD well prior to when this whole trans movement exploded. And has been diagnosed on the spectrum since early childhood. YOU seem to believe that this issue is black and white, that when a child states he/she is transgender, he/she definitely is. Some are, some aren't and there's a lot to unwrap with this issue, especially when there are previous mental health diagnosis. Since you do not have the full picture into MY child's particular situation, making your own 'diagnosis' is its own form of delusion. It shows the danger of activism in full view and demonstrates EXACTLY how some children are preyed upon. YOU, in your infinite leftist wisdom, has decided that MY child is transgender and that ME, as that child's PARENT, is clearly unfit to raise him. And you call conservatives tyrants? Wow.

"Well-intentioned" and "loving" parents used to send their kids to "pray the gay away camps" too. Just saying. Just because you gave birth to your child and love him/her on some level, doesn't mean you are doing right by them.

More assumptions. This is all you have - attacks and assumptions. If your child told you he had testicular cancer, would you seek a doctor's opinion and medical testing, or just lop them off because your child said he had cancer?

Well-intentioned and loving parents both listen to their children and seek out proper care. And that proper care is different for each child because each child has individual needs and issues. Groupthink and Groupspeak only serve to meet an agenda, not the individual child.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:I got tired of removing posts that I considered hateful from that thread. Of course, the authors of those posts will deny that they are hateful because they obviously believe that calling trans women men and accusing them of having mental health issues are just differences of opinion. But, I don't find such posts acceptable.

Every trans-related thread here ultimately goes the same way. It's just too much effort to try to keep the threads civil.

My kid has identified as trans. He most definitely has mental health issues, diagnosed well before. OCD and on the spectrum. What's cruel is the medical community and trans community preying on him, determined to separate him from a family who has always been his advocate.

Yes, you have been repeating this non-stop. It is very clear that you are not willing to accept your child's trans identity and prefer to view them as mentally ill and a victim of groomers. That is not a healthy attitude and, as you are seeing, the results are not good. I hope that your child will find love and support from those who truly are their advocate.

Can you please tell me how you can be so sure of my child's medical history?

I did not comment on your child's medical history. Your inability to accept them as trans is very clear and you repeatedly document the negative outcome of your lack of acceptance.

BTW, you refer to your child with male pronouns. Are those your kid's preferred pronouns?

You absolutely did. I bolded it. I asked you if you have access to my child's medical history, from childhood on. And if you have access to my child's interactions with his doctors and therapists. Because you are making a lot of accusations and assumptions without any data, if you don't.

I commented on your preference for viewing your child as mentally ill. Do you view your child's gender identity as a mental illness? Do you respect your child's gender identity in even the most basic way by using preferred pronouns? Everything you have written suggests that rather than providing your child support, you treat them as defective and mentally ill. Then, you blame others for your alienation.

NP. You’re not helping anyone’s case here. The PP clearly stated their child was diagnosed with mental health issues long before they identified as trans.

Right, but she has a reductive view of her child, only seeing her child as mentally ill and using that as an excuse to reject her child's trans identity. That has predictably resulted in alienation which she blames on everyone else. Moreover, she is extrapolating from that to justify calling all trans people mentally ill. That's why she got in this conversation which had nothing to do with her in the first place.

I have said NOTHING of the sort. I stated that my own child was diagnosed with OCD well prior to when this whole trans movement exploded. And has been diagnosed on the spectrum since early childhood. YOU seem to believe that this issue is black and white, that when a child states he/she is transgender, he/she definitely is. Some are, some aren't and there's a lot to unwrap with this issue, especially when there are previous mental health diagnosis. Since you do not have the full picture into MY child's particular situation, making your own 'diagnosis' is its own form of delusion. It shows the danger of activism in full view and demonstrates EXACTLY how some children are preyed upon. YOU, in your infinite leftist wisdom, has decided that MY child is transgender and that ME, as that child's PARENT, is clearly unfit to raise him. And you call conservatives tyrants? Wow.

"Well-intentioned" and "loving" parents used to send their kids to "pray the gay away camps" too. Just saying. Just because you gave birth to your child and love him/her on some level, doesn't mean you are doing right by them.

More assumptions. This is all you have - attacks and assumptions. If your child told you he had testicular cancer, would you seek a doctor's opinion and medical testing, or just lop them off because your child said he had cancer?

Well-intentioned and loving parents both listen to their children and seek out proper care. And that proper care is different for each child because each child has individual needs and issues. Groupthink and Groupspeak only serve to meet an agenda, not the individual child.

Again, as Jeff pointed out several times, you are operating from the assumption that your child is mentally ill which is causing them to identify as transgender. Those are your words, not mine. You are seeking treatment for the said mental illness as stated above. Hence my comment about parents sending their children to doctors and pray the gay away camps under the impression that their children were just troubled and with proper treatment and prayer they would see the light of day and not be gay any more. So, do what you will, but don't be shocked when your child pulls further and further away from you. Apparently even the professional (a therapist) seemed to think that would be a good idea, but you're still digging in your heels.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:I got tired of removing posts that I considered hateful from that thread. Of course, the authors of those posts will deny that they are hateful because they obviously believe that calling trans women men and accusing them of having mental health issues are just differences of opinion. But, I don't find such posts acceptable.

Every trans-related thread here ultimately goes the same way. It's just too much effort to try to keep the threads civil.

My kid has identified as trans. He most definitely has mental health issues, diagnosed well before. OCD and on the spectrum. What's cruel is the medical community and trans community preying on him, determined to separate him from a family who has always been his advocate.

Yes, you have been repeating this non-stop. It is very clear that you are not willing to accept your child's trans identity and prefer to view them as mentally ill and a victim of groomers. That is not a healthy attitude and, as you are seeing, the results are not good. I hope that your child will find love and support from those who truly are their advocate.

Can you please tell me how you can be so sure of my child's medical history?

I did not comment on your child's medical history. Your inability to accept them as trans is very clear and you repeatedly document the negative outcome of your lack of acceptance.

BTW, you refer to your child with male pronouns. Are those your kid's preferred pronouns?

You absolutely did. I bolded it. I asked you if you have access to my child's medical history, from childhood on. And if you have access to my child's interactions with his doctors and therapists. Because you are making a lot of accusations and assumptions without any data, if you don't.

I commented on your preference for viewing your child as mentally ill. Do you view your child's gender identity as a mental illness? Do you respect your child's gender identity in even the most basic way by using preferred pronouns? Everything you have written suggests that rather than providing your child support, you treat them as defective and mentally ill. Then, you blame others for your alienation.

NP. You’re not helping anyone’s case here. The PP clearly stated their child was diagnosed with mental health issues long before they identified as trans.

Right, but she has a reductive view of her child, only seeing her child as mentally ill and using that as an excuse to reject her child's trans identity. That has predictably resulted in alienation which she blames on everyone else. Moreover, she is extrapolating from that to justify calling all trans people mentally ill. That's why she got in this conversation which had nothing to do with her in the first place.

I have said NOTHING of the sort. I stated that my own child was diagnosed with OCD well prior to when this whole trans movement exploded. And has been diagnosed on the spectrum since early childhood. YOU seem to believe that this issue is black and white, that when a child states he/she is transgender, he/she definitely is. Some are, some aren't and there's a lot to unwrap with this issue, especially when there are previous mental health diagnosis. Since you do not have the full picture into MY child's particular situation, making your own 'diagnosis' is its own form of delusion. It shows the danger of activism in full view and demonstrates EXACTLY how some children are preyed upon. YOU, in your infinite leftist wisdom, has decided that MY child is transgender and that ME, as that child's PARENT, is clearly unfit to raise him. And you call conservatives tyrants? Wow.

"Well-intentioned" and "loving" parents used to send their kids to "pray the gay away camps" too. Just saying. Just because you gave birth to your child and love him/her on some level, doesn't mean you are doing right by them.

More assumptions. This is all you have - attacks and assumptions. If your child told you he had testicular cancer, would you seek a doctor's opinion and medical testing, or just lop them off because your child said he had cancer?

Well-intentioned and loving parents both listen to their children and seek out proper care. And that proper care is different for each child because each child has individual needs and issues. Groupthink and Groupspeak only serve to meet an agenda, not the individual child.

Using your analogy, if your child told you he had testicular cancer, you would go to a doctor, but then accuse the doctor of being a groomer if he agreed. Then, you would blame the cancer on mental health issues and activists.