Roughly 10000 URMs scored 1400-1600 on their SATs in 2022

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anecdotally, my son (AA) is a senior and he got a 1460 (780 verbal/680 math - no prep lol). He didn’t apply to any T20s but he did apply to three T20-T50s and he’s been accepted to all of them.

He should've prepped and go for T20. Why didn't he prep?

Because he didn’t care enough and we didn’t push it. He’ll be perfectly fine at the schools where he’s been accepted.

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Anonymous wrote:Perhaps Stanford.

Notably, about a fifth of the frosh population is composed of domestic students (students residing in the United States) who identify as non-Hispanic white, a portion that has continued to decrease over the last few years. At an all-time high, women make up approximately 54% of all first-years.

About 21% of first-years identify as first-generation college students, an increase from the Class of 2025’s 18% statistic.

https://stanforddaily.com/2023/02/28/acceptance-rate-drops-to-3-68-majority-women-and-non-white-students/

Enrolled Students:
https://ucomm.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/15/2023/02/CDS_2022-2023_v2.pdf

If I'm reading that right Stanford took in about 400 of these kids.... 4%?

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Our AA child is going to an HBCU and we are thrilled. HBCU enrollment is way up for high performing students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our AA child is going to an HBCU and we are thrilled. HBCU enrollment is way up for high performing students.

Congrats!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:a 1400 and a score approaching 1600 are two very different things

1450+ is 99th percentile.

1400 is 97th percentile.

Your definition of 'very different' is very different from mine.

Maybe I am reading the report incorrectly - on page 7 it says 8% of students received a score above 1400.

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It occurs to me that with 10,000 in the 1400-1600 range there are, statistically speaking, also 2500? 5000? in the 1500-1600 range. That is enough to fill the entire freshman class at Harvard and Yale combined with the remainder at Caltech. And yet somehow that never happens?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:a 1400 and a score approaching 1600 are two very different things

1450+ is 99th percentile.

1400 is 97th percentile.

Your definition of 'very different' is very different from mine.

Maybe I am reading the report incorrectly - on page 7 it says 8% of students received a score above 1400.

I'm talking about all high school students. I didn't read the report, but if 8% scored in the 97th percentile or above for all students, that's huge!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It occurs to me that with 10,000 in the 1400-1600 range there are, statistically speaking, also 2500? 5000? in the 1500-1600 range. That is enough to fill the entire freshman class at Harvard and Yale combined with the remainder at Caltech. And yet somehow that never happens?

Probably more like 1500 in the 1500-1600 range, but still.....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:a 1400 and a score approaching 1600 are two very different things

1450+ is 99th percentile.

1400 is 97th percentile.

Your definition of 'very different' is very different from mine.

Maybe I am reading the report incorrectly - on page 7 it says 8% of students received a score above 1400.

I'm talking about all high school students. I didn't read the report, but if 8% scored in the 97th percentile or above for all students, that's huge!

According to the Common App report approximately 175K HS students scored >1400.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It occurs to me that with 10,000 in the 1400-1600 range there are, statistically speaking, also 2500? 5000? in the 1500-1600 range. That is enough to fill the entire freshman class at Harvard and Yale combined with the remainder at Caltech. And yet somehow that never happens?

Probably more like 1500 in the 1500-1600 range, but still.....

There are more than 10,000 students applying with scores >1400. This report doesn't account for super scoring. This report is for one sitting (the latest if the test is taken more than once).

[Anonymous]

Note that type of URM has a significant effect on admission chances. Getting a high score is far from sufficient (as is the case for all students, of course).

[Anonymous]

High scores are less valuable in the test optional environment, URM or not.

[Anonymous]

All this value added discussion aside - where are these kids going after high school if its not enlisting?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It occurs to me that with 10,000 in the 1400-1600 range there are, statistically speaking, also 2500? 5000? in the 1500-1600 range. That is enough to fill the entire freshman class at Harvard and Yale combined with the remainder at Caltech. And yet somehow that never happens?

I’d guess significantly less than half; probably closer to 2500 than 5000. 2% of Hispanic students and 1% of black students scored that highly, and 80% of those 10000 were Hispanic, so the proportion of black students is probably closer to 3-400.

In 2021 Harvard admitted about ~2000 kids, 15% or so (~300) were black, so if Harvard actually kept the same admissions standards for black students as they do for white and Asian students they would consume nearly the entire population of highly qualified black students. What would the rest of the super selective schools do?

[Anonymous]

And many of them grew up in UMC and wealthy households.

Many also check the box with their 1/16th claimed ethnicity.