Do you know why the U.S. will and should fight a war over Taiwan?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We can figure out how to make our own laptops and chips. Probably better anyway.

No hot war for foreign countries. Not one American life.

Now that said - if you get a Hitler esque, trying to take over a whole continent, trying to exterminate millions - yes we did the right thing, even at the cost of American lives. But not willing for my kids to die for Taiwan or the Ukraine.


$23M people live in Taiwan. Why should the rest of the world stand by and watch them get slaughtered and lose their freedom. We have seen over history how well appeasement works. What is happening in Hong Kong is bad enough. The world shouldn’t just sit and watch while the Russians and Chinese slaughter innocent countries.


Look the typical Fox viewer does not care about people being slaughtered. Fox brainwashing supports Putin’s holocaust in the Ukraine. If this was 1943 Fox and the republicans would be supporting the Axis powers and pushing their propaganda. You can not count on republicans supporting freedom and democracy or even opposing the slaughter of women and children. That is not who they are. Just listen to what they say?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Vindman explains this as a side show. Our freedom will be won in Ukraine.


Vindman being a Ukrainian Jew has a completely different perspective on the conflict and its stakes than any American would.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We can figure out how to make our own laptops and chips. Probably better anyway.

No hot war for foreign countries. Not one American life.

Now that said - if you get a Hitler esque, trying to take over a whole continent, trying to exterminate millions - yes we did the right thing, even at the cost of American lives. But not willing for my kids to die for Taiwan or the Ukraine.


$23M people live in Taiwan. Why should the rest of the world stand by and watch them get slaughtered and lose their freedom. We have seen over history how well appeasement works. What is happening in Hong Kong is bad enough. The world shouldn’t just sit and watch while the Russians and Chinese slaughter innocent countries.


None of the woke kids are joining the military. Who is going to fight China?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We can figure out how to make our own laptops and chips. Probably better anyway.

No hot war for foreign countries. Not one American life.

Now that said - if you get a Hitler esque, trying to take over a whole continent, trying to exterminate millions - yes we did the right thing, even at the cost of American lives. But not willing for my kids to die for Taiwan or the Ukraine.


$23M people live in Taiwan. Why should the rest of the world stand by and watch them get slaughtered and lose their freedom. We have seen over history how well appeasement works. What is happening in Hong Kong is bad enough. The world shouldn’t just sit and watch while the Russians and Chinese slaughter innocent countries.


Look the typical Fox viewer does not care about people being slaughtered. Fox brainwashing supports Putin’s holocaust in the Ukraine. If this was 1943 Fox and the republicans would be supporting the Axis powers and pushing their propaganda. You can not count on republicans supporting freedom and democracy or even opposing the slaughter of women and children. That is not who they are. Just listen to what they say?


Gotta hand it to Trump. He’s flipped the whole political calculus.

The republicans are the anti-war… don’t trust the deep state… don’t trust big pharma… for the working man… anti tax…. Anti government… Christian values…

This is a growth position for the party.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We can figure out how to make our own laptops and chips. Probably better anyway.

No hot war for foreign countries. Not one American life.

Now that said - if you get a Hitler esque, trying to take over a whole continent, trying to exterminate millions - yes we did the right thing, even at the cost of American lives. But not willing for my kids to die for Taiwan or the Ukraine.


$23M people live in Taiwan. Why should the rest of the world stand by and watch them get slaughtered and lose their freedom. We have seen over history how well appeasement works. What is happening in Hong Kong is bad enough. The world shouldn’t just sit and watch while the Russians and Chinese slaughter innocent countries.


None of the woke kids are joining the military. Who is going to fight China?


Leftists would send illegals.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We can figure out how to make our own laptops and chips. Probably better anyway.

No hot war for foreign countries. Not one American life.

Now that said - if you get a Hitler esque, trying to take over a whole continent, trying to exterminate millions - yes we did the right thing, even at the cost of American lives. But not willing for my kids to die for Taiwan or the Ukraine.


$23M people live in Taiwan. Why should the rest of the world stand by and watch them get slaughtered and lose their freedom. We have seen over history how well appeasement works. What is happening in Hong Kong is bad enough. The world shouldn’t just sit and watch while the Russians and Chinese slaughter innocent countries.


None of the woke kids are joining the military. Who is going to fight China?


Leftists would send illegals.


At least they are loyal to the country.
Anonymous
Move Taiwan to Argentina. Let Chinese take it after the move.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Vindman explains this as a side show. Our freedom will be won in Ukraine.


"Our"? In what way are you not free now?

And sure, Vindman isn't an interested party AT ALL.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We can figure out how to make our own laptops and chips. Probably better anyway.

No hot war for foreign countries. Not one American life.

Now that said - if you get a Hitler esque, trying to take over a whole continent, trying to exterminate millions - yes we did the right thing, even at the cost of American lives. But not willing for my kids to die for Taiwan or the Ukraine.


$23M people live in Taiwan. Why should the rest of the world stand by and watch them get slaughtered and lose their freedom. We have seen over history how well appeasement works. What is happening in Hong Kong is bad enough. The world shouldn’t just sit and watch while the Russians and Chinese slaughter innocent countries.


LOL because it did before, and it will do so again. I mean the world sat and watched while Iraq and Libya were turned to crap. The world watched while Yemeni kids starved. Let's not get all righteous now.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We can figure out how to make our own laptops and chips. Probably better anyway.

No hot war for foreign countries. Not one American life.

Now that said - if you get a Hitler esque, trying to take over a whole continent, trying to exterminate millions - yes we did the right thing, even at the cost of American lives. But not willing for my kids to die for Taiwan or the Ukraine.


We are in the process of doing this, but we have to create several industries. We have to mine our own rare earth materials. We need to set up factories in the areas that used to have factories and are now ravaged by poverty, drugs, and resentment, and we have to figure out how to swallow the massive price increase that would come from insourcing this. There is no way around the fact that we are worse off without Taiwan.

We have genocides all the time, that isnt why we get involved. We wouldnt have gotten involved if Japan hadnt bombed Pearl Harbor. We get involved when we perceive an existential threat to a critical aspect of our security. China now controls too much-- chips, medicine, etc. They have us on our knees while they are ascendent. Read The Peloppenesian Wars, a classic military history piece, for why people think war with China is inevitable.


Wjy don't you learn to make stuff as well as the other guy? You're just mad the US' economic dominance is no longer a given.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We can figure out how to make our own laptops and chips. Probably better anyway.

No hot war for foreign countries. Not one American life.

Now that said - if you get a Hitler esque, trying to take over a whole continent, trying to exterminate millions - yes we did the right thing, even at the cost of American lives. But not willing for my kids to die for Taiwan or the Ukraine.


$23M people live in Taiwan. Why should the rest of the world stand by and watch them get slaughtered and lose their freedom. We have seen over history how well appeasement works. What is happening in Hong Kong is bad enough. The world shouldn’t just sit and watch while the Russians and Chinese slaughter innocent countries.


None of the woke kids are joining the military. Who is going to fight China?


Leftists would send illegals.


At least they are loyal to the country.


I work in construction.

I have not found this to be true.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We can figure out how to make our own laptops and chips. Probably better anyway.

No hot war for foreign countries. Not one American life.

Now that said - if you get a Hitler esque, trying to take over a whole continent, trying to exterminate millions - yes we did the right thing, even at the cost of American lives. But not willing for my kids to die for Taiwan or the Ukraine.


$23M people live in Taiwan. Why should the rest of the world stand by and watch them get slaughtered and lose their freedom. We have seen over history how well appeasement works. What is happening in Hong Kong is bad enough. The world shouldn’t just sit and watch while the Russians and Chinese slaughter innocent countries.


None of the woke kids are joining the military. Who is going to fight China?


Yawn. Where do you get this bullshit? Two of the top states contributing the most soldiers to the military are New York and California, also considered two of the "wokest" states in the Nation by the shrill pundits you listen to.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Move Taiwan to Argentina. Let Chinese take it after the move.

Dumb and his cousin dumber have joined the conversation.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We can figure out how to make our own laptops and chips. Probably better anyway.

No hot war for foreign countries. Not one American life.

Now that said - if you get a Hitler esque, trying to take over a whole continent, trying to exterminate millions - yes we did the right thing, even at the cost of American lives. But not willing for my kids to die for Taiwan or the Ukraine.


$23M people live in Taiwan. Why should the rest of the world stand by and watch them get slaughtered and lose their freedom. We have seen over history how well appeasement works. What is happening in Hong Kong is bad enough. The world shouldn’t just sit and watch while the Russians and Chinese slaughter innocent countries.


None of the woke kids are joining the military. Who is going to fight China?


Leftists would send illegals.


At least they are loyal to the country.


Forced military service is not loyalty.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We can figure out how to make our own laptops and chips. Probably better anyway.

No hot war for foreign countries. Not one American life.

Now that said - if you get a Hitler esque, trying to take over a whole continent, trying to exterminate millions - yes we did the right thing, even at the cost of American lives. But not willing for my kids to die for Taiwan or the Ukraine.


We are in the process of doing this, but we have to create several industries. We have to mine our own rare earth materials. We need to set up factories in the areas that used to have factories and are now ravaged by poverty, drugs, and resentment, and we have to figure out how to swallow the massive price increase that would come from insourcing this. There is no way around the fact that we are worse off without Taiwan.

We have genocides all the time, that isnt why we get involved. We wouldnt have gotten involved if Japan hadnt bombed Pearl Harbor. We get involved when we perceive an existential threat to a critical aspect of our security. China now controls too much-- chips, medicine, etc. They have us on our knees while they are ascendent. Read The Peloppenesian Wars, a classic military history piece, for why people think war with China is inevitable.


I don’t think you have read “The Peloponnesian War” by Kagan if you can’t even spell it correctly.

Ridiculous to make these all of these culture-reality comparisons. Besides ROC v PRC, there are all
of these idiots comparing the Russian invasion to “Star Wars” (Zelenskyy’s Zoom with Mark Hamill, lol) and “Lord of the Rings” (Russians=Orcs).
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