How many of you are truly pro-choice?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How is this even a question? 1000% support my daughter to choose what she does with her body. And no, it’s not a BaBy! At 20 weeks a clump of cells the size of a golfball. If she needed later, I would trust what her doctor said. So unAmerican to be against a woman’s right to control her own destiny.

20 weeks? I only ever knew of one personally that had no knowledge at 16 weeks plus they were pregnant. Obese. I'm pro choice and the decision needs to be made far earlier than 20 weeks. VA had some weird proposed legislation that with a 1 doctor sign off could have allowed a fulll term healthy to be deemed a product. Yes that's ghoulish.

I have no idea if a DD or partner of a DS ever had one. If so it would have been before anyone familiar with them would have thought are they pregnant.

If I remember correctly, the Virginia proposed legislation was in terms of concern for the life of the mother, no? Babies are absolutely delivered early to save the life of the mother. We have friends in Maryland who had a child delivered at 27w due to severe pre-eclampsia. Fortunately, both mother and baby survived. Another woman I know, also with pre-eclampsia, was induced at 35w. Another was delivered at 32w due to a cancer diagnosis while pregnant. An acquaintance of my family also had an induction early in the 3rd trimester due to fimmubent fetal demise.
These situations arent "ghoulish." Bad things happen. Women don't just up and decide at near full term to "abort".

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This seems like an odd definition of pro-choice.

Personally, I'd want my child to have the baby in most circumstances, because I think abortion is generally morally wrong. I think it should be her decision, though, because I recognize that there are consequences to forcing my vision of morality on people who disagree.

I call myself pro-choice, because I don't think abortion should be generally illegal. I'd extend the same to a person who thinks that abortion is generally a good idea for people in these circumstances. Having an opinion about what choice someone makes doesn't keep you from believing they should have a legal right to make the choice.

So abortion is morally wrong but forcing a woman to carry to term is morally fine so she can deliver andbe a broodmare for some woman who can't have children?

Where did PP say anything about forcing a woman to carry to term? Did you even read her post? As someone who's pro-choice and doesn't personally consider abortion immoral, I respect PP's views and appreciate her wisdom and compassion. As a society we'd be much better off if more people understood that everything we personally disapprove of doesn't have to be outlawed for everyone else.

And in response to OP's weird question, yes, I would 100% support my daughter in whatever choice she made in a situation like this. It's her body and her life. The fact that OP even places this in the context of how you'd feel if your daughter got pregnant and not you yourself is telling, though. I'm guessing that comes from the mindset that OP thinks people feel like they 'own' their kids, which is right in line with the outlaw abortion crowd who thinks they have rights over other people's bodies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How is this even a question? 1000% support my daughter to choose what she does with her body. And no, it’s not a BaBy! At 20 weeks a clump of cells the size of a golfball. If she needed later, I would trust what her doctor said. So unAmerican to be against a woman’s right to control her own destiny.

Really now?

https://www.sciencephoto.com/media/1007804/view/20-week-old-fetus

[Anonymous]

This is a dumb debate.

The "20 weeks baby is a clump of cells" poster is obviously a troll. The vast majority of abortions occur before 12 weeks, vanishingly few at 20 weeks and usually for medical reasons.

Also, most abortions are performed on women who have already had children. But right-wingers love to focus on the wayward pregnant teen so they can make this about morality and sexual promiscuity.

[Anonymous]

I'm a man so I don't have a uterus. And it's not my business what anybody else does with theirs.

So to answer your question, yes I am truly pro-choice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Meaning if your 17 or 23 year old daughter got pregnant, you’d emotionally support her 100% whether she decides to have and raise the kid, abort or give the kid up for adoption?

Of course i would. I'd hope she'd have an abortion but it would be up to her, ultimately.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How is this even a question? 1000% support my daughter to choose what she does with her body. And no, it’s not a BaBy! At 20 weeks a clump of cells the size of a golfball. If she needed later, I would trust what her doctor said. So unAmerican to be against a woman’s right to control her own destiny.

20 weeks? I only ever knew of one personally that had no knowledge at 16 weeks plus they were pregnant. Obese. I'm pro choice and the decision needs to be made far earlier than 20 weeks. VA had some weird proposed legislation that with a 1 doctor sign off could have allowed a fulll term healthy to be deemed a product. Yes that's ghoulish.

I have no idea if a DD or partner of a DS ever had one. If so it would have been before anyone familiar with them would have thought are they pregnant.

“I’m pro choice but here’s forced birther propaganda I happen to know.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is a dumb debate.

The "20 weeks baby is a clump of cells" poster is obviously a troll. The vast majority of abortions occur before 12 weeks, vanishingly few at 20 weeks and usually for medical reasons.

Also, most abortions are performed on women who have already had children. But right-wingers love to focus on the wayward pregnant teen so they can make this about morality and sexual promiscuity.

+1

Obvious and weak trolling.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How is this even a question? 1000% support my daughter to choose what she does with her body. And no, it’s not a BaBy! At 20 weeks a clump of cells the size of a golfball. If she needed later, I would trust what her doctor said. So unAmerican to be against a woman’s right to control her own destiny.

20 weeks? I only ever knew of one personally that had no knowledge at 16 weeks plus they were pregnant. Obese. I'm pro choice and the decision needs to be made far earlier than 20 weeks. VA had some weird proposed legislation that with a 1 doctor sign off could have allowed a fulll term healthy to be deemed a product. Yes that's ghoulish.

I have no idea if a DD or partner of a DS ever had one. If so it would have been before anyone familiar with them would have thought are they pregnant.

“I’m pro choice but here’s forced birther propaganda I happen to know.”

A+++

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Meaning if your 17 or 23 year old daughter got pregnant, you’d emotionally support her 100% whether she decides to have and raise the kid, abort or give the kid up for adoption?

I think the thing is, most “pro-choice” people really actually are pro-choice. Not pro-abortion. I do not think any woman should be forced to carry or abort her own child. It is not the trick question you seem to think it is.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Meaning if your 17 or 23 year old daughter got pregnant, you’d emotionally support her 100% whether she decides to have and raise the kid, abort or give the kid up for adoption?

Of course i would. I'd hope she'd have an abortion but it would be up to her, ultimately.

And you would give her the necessary financial help?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Meaning if your 17 or 23 year old daughter got pregnant, you’d emotionally support her 100% whether she decides to have and raise the kid, abort or give the kid up for adoption?

Of course i would. I'd hope she'd have an abortion but it would be up to her, ultimately.

And you would give her the necessary financial help?

Yes. Without hesitation. And that goes either way, I might add, whatever her choice I would help her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Meaning if your 17 or 23 year old daughter got pregnant, you’d emotionally support her 100% whether she decides to have and raise the kid, abort or give the kid up for adoption?

Of course i would. I'd hope she'd have an abortion but it would be up to her, ultimately.

And you would give her the necessary financial help?

[Anonymous]

I’m about as pro-choice as they come I think. I support termination of pregnancy at any time for any reason. Whether that means an abortion or live birth depends on gestational age and that conversation happens only between a woman and her doctor.

[Anonymous]

100%.