Advice for help advising driven teen and “elite” college admission

Anonymous
Seriously- Good luck. Everyone's kids at those schools are special. There will be a lot of great options for your kid, but unless they are truly exceptional they will not get into an ivy.
Anonymous
Seek therapy ASAP.
Anonymous
OP, if you are Asian in MCPS your child is not getting into an Ivy unless they are 1)a recruited athlete 2)legacy 3)doing something TRULY groundbreaking in their spare time.

There are tons of kids just like yours in MCPS: perfect grades, perfect or almost perfect test scores, etc.

Take this off the table or you will cause all sorts of unnecessary anxiety for both yourself and your child.

The good news is that there are countless paths to success (be it medical school, Wall Street, a FAANG job or whatever) that do not require an Ivy degree. The vast majority.
Anonymous
What does your DD want? Seems more like this is your dream. I would focus on what she wants once she starts visiting colleges.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Read the book: Who gets in and Why

https://jeffselingo.com/books/who-gets-in-and-why/

You need to understand the landscape and the process. At this point in time the best advice would be to encourage your child to go deep into a passion. Example - is your child is interested in becoming a Dr - doing community service hours at the Children's Inn at NIH could show depth how it is not only academic.

There are more Valedictorians than spots at Ivies


Which means that there are plenty of other schools with bunches of valedictorians. Wherever she ends up, she'll have access not only to strong teachers but also a cohort of other strong, engaged students.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What does your DD want? Seems more like this is your dream. I would focus on what she wants once she starts visiting colleges.


+100

"Getting into an Ivy" is never a good goal to have. Goals like "becoming a doctor," "becoming a software engineer," "being a writer," or "working to solve climate change/COVID/HIV" are all good goals to have. But aiming for the Ivies with no idea of what you want post-grad is a recipe for disaster -- and frankly, a recipe I see too many kids in this area fall into.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What does your DD want? Seems more like this is your dream. I would focus on what she wants once she starts visiting colleges.


I am going to re-post my comment from your other thread because I think you need to read it again (and also because I think many posters here need to read it as well):

It has been scientifically proven that it doesn't matter where you go to college:

https://www.nber.org/papers/w17159

Look, it's clear from your sentence structure and grammatical errors that you're a recent Asian immigrant who treats the Ivies as the end-all-be-all. I've seen too many poor tiger cubs driven to insanity by parents like you.

Just back off. Let your daughter do whatever the hell she wants. And if "her goal" is to get into an Ivy, it's time to reexamine your values.
Anonymous
Frankly, if you are halfway through Sophomore year its pretty much too late to start thinking about this. She's probably not going to be able to achieve something extraordinary within the next year and a half. But if you have a lot of money to throw at it, understand there are no guarantees, and want some guidance, I'd go with these folks:

https://markseducation.com/

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I can't believe OP said in the other duplicate thread that it's not "nice" assume she's Asian. WTH


I also can't believe some racist poster posted it's "obvious from the grammar that you're some first generation asian immigrant" and that this was hurled as an insult. I don't give a rat's ass if the OP is Asian. There are plenty of white and other race Ivy-League aspirational parents out there too.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What does your DD want? Seems more like this is your dream. I would focus on what she wants once she starts visiting colleges.


I am going to re-post my comment from your other thread because I think you need to read it again (and also because I think many posters here need to read it as well):

It has been scientifically proven that it doesn't matter where you go to college:

https://www.nber.org/papers/w17159

Look, it's clear from your sentence structure and grammatical errors that you're a recent Asian immigrant who treats the Ivies as the end-all-be-all. I've seen too many poor tiger cubs driven to insanity by parents like you.

Just back off. Let your daughter do whatever the hell she wants. And if "her goal" is to get into an Ivy, it's time to reexamine your values.


Oh, hello, Racist Poster.
Anonymous
I always love these posts where parents want their kid to get into “an Ivy.” Clearly striving parents since Ivy League schools are not interchangeable. Which Ivy and why that one? When you know that, come back and we will give you the secret formula.
Anonymous
OP here. Thank you for the links and suggestions and leads some gave us to pursue.

Others clearly had racist language assuming I’m Asian due to sentence structure. This was written in middle of night when I couldn’t sleep.

I appreciate others who constructively suggested alternate ways of thinking for our child’s future. We appreciate the opinions that came without moral judgment.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP, if you are Asian in MCPS your child is not getting into an Ivy unless they are 1)a recruited athlete 2)legacy 3)doing something TRULY groundbreaking in their spare time.

There are tons of kids just like yours in MCPS: perfect grades, perfect or almost perfect test scores, etc.

Take this off the table or you will cause all sorts of unnecessary anxiety for both yourself and your child.

The good news is that there are countless paths to success (be it medical school, Wall Street, a FAANG job or whatever) that do not require an Ivy degree. The vast majority.


That is true for all high achieving mcps kids, not just Asian mcps kids. A lot of academically sound kids vying for few spots. You have to stand out.
Anonymous
If your child isn't a recruited athlete or an URM, this is a recipe for disappointment. if your daughter is going to get in, it will take more than straight As and good SATs to stand out. Can she start her own non-profit? Do something else to stand out from the pack? Can you win the lottery and donate enough money to pay for a new building? Those are your options.
Anonymous
I have a son like yours but we live in McLean. A lot of kids like him in VA and most of them go to UVA. My child wants to become a doctor like his dad. He puts so much pressure on himself that I tell him that getting into med school is more important than the undergrad he goes to.

It doesn’t matter if you are white or Asian, unless you are a recruited athlete or truly outstanding, getting into an ivy is like a lotto.
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