Grandma’s been secretly proselytizing with DC

[Anonymous]

She's visiting at your house and you're completely unaware of what's going on? Why not just have the visit take place in a central room where you are nearby and can easily monitor?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Chill out OP.

Don't chill out, OP. This is boundary breaking and "sneaky" as you said. It is abusive, in my opinion.

You need to chill out too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Chill out OP.

Don't chill out, OP. This is boundary breaking and "sneaky" as you said. It is abusive, in my opinion.

You need to chill out too.

No. You need to stop supporting sneaky liars forcing their brand of religion on minors against parental wishes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. It’s not just reading, it’s making DC resist prayers over and over. I know my mother. This is not a nice open ended discussion about Jesus. This id fir her own satisfaction. She’s gotten sneaky in her old age.

I believe you OP. My own mother did not do this, but I can't tell you the number of times I had to hear about my brother not baptizing his kids, to include her joking that she was going to get some holy water and baptize them when they were alone. She didn't do that, but I get it.

This is a huge breach of trust and crashing through boundaries. I think for me it would be a sit down with my mom, possibly with my husband there as well, and telling her that she doesn't have to like what I've chosen as an adult, but she has to accept it.

If she wanted to take your son to church, in the open, I'd probably argue that you should let her. But this sneaking around and asking him to keep the Bible reading secret is a no go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My mother has been very upset that we’ve held off in baptizing our kids. Neither DH nor I are religious and have decided to hold off on introducing it. Well, Dc informed us a few weeks ago that on the weekend afternoon s when she visits snd we’ve been letting her spend one on one time with DC hat she’s been whipping out a Bible and holy water and forcing DC to read aloud from it. From what my DC, who is in 5th grade, says, it sounds like my mom is really pushing it hard. I think she’s probably been doing this for months now. So, what’s next? She will
Fight hard for this and I feel like we may need to limit visits.

Holy water, really? Is grandma a priest?

Troll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. It’s not just reading, it’s making DC resist prayers over and over. I know my mother. This is not a nice open ended discussion about Jesus. This id fir her own satisfaction. She’s gotten sneaky in her old age.

I believe you OP. My own mother did not do this, but I can't tell you the number of times I had to hear about my brother not baptizing his kids, to include her joking that she was going to get some holy water and baptize them when they were alone. She didn't do that, but I get it.

This is a huge breach of trust and crashing through boundaries. I think for me it would be a sit down with my mom, possibly with my husband there as well, and telling her that she doesn't have to like what I've chosen as an adult, but she has to accept it.

If she wanted to take your son to church, in the open, I'd probably argue that you should let her. But this sneaking around and asking him to keep the Bible reading secret is a no go.

No, a random person can’t just baptize someone.

Troll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. It’s not just reading, it’s making DC resist prayers over and over. I know my mother. This is not a nice open ended discussion about Jesus. This id fir her own satisfaction. She’s gotten sneaky in her old age.

I believe you OP. My own mother did not do this, but I can't tell you the number of times I had to hear about my brother not baptizing his kids, to include her joking that she was going to get some holy water and baptize them when they were alone. She didn't do that, but I get it.

This is a huge breach of trust and crashing through boundaries. I think for me it would be a sit down with my mom, possibly with my husband there as well, and telling her that she doesn't have to like what I've chosen as an adult, but she has to accept it.

If she wanted to take your son to church, in the open, I'd probably argue that you should let her. But this sneaking around and asking him to keep the Bible reading secret is a no go.

You mean a baptismal font, not holy water.

Troll

[Anonymous]

Whatever. There are worse things than having a mother who cares about religion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. It’s not just reading, it’s making DC resist prayers over and over. I know my mother. This is not a nice open ended discussion about Jesus. This id fir her own satisfaction. She’s gotten sneaky in her old age.

I believe you OP. My own mother did not do this, but I can't tell you the number of times I had to hear about my brother not baptizing his kids, to include her joking that she was going to get some holy water and baptize them when they were alone. She didn't do that, but I get it.

This is a huge breach of trust and crashing through boundaries. I think for me it would be a sit down with my mom, possibly with my husband there as well, and telling her that she doesn't have to like what I've chosen as an adult, but she has to accept it.

If she wanted to take your son to church, in the open, I'd probably argue that you should let her. But this sneaking around and asking him to keep the Bible reading secret is a no go.

No, a random person can’t just baptize someone.

Troll.

Actually, a random person can baptize someone. They don't even have to be Christian, only intend to "do what the Church does." Not that they should, of course.

[Anonymous]

I'm a "natural consequences" kind of person. The natural consequences of this attempt to convert your child behind your back is that your child is going to think Grandma is really not fun to be around.

My MIL tries to get my 5th and 7th graders to be evangelical Christians like her, instead of the liberal mainline Protestants we are. The 7th grader is completely over it. The 5th grader is freaked out by MIL's stories of the Devil and the Angel of Death visiting MIL in her bedroom at night (MIL has a weird fixation with these supposed visitations). Neither of them has been converted; they've just asked not to have to see Grandma every week. When necessary, I say things like, "Well you know MIL believes those things very literally. She thinks the Bible is 100% true and that God talks directly to her. Some people believe their religion is the only true one; they're called fundamentalists. Why don't you ask her to bake some brownies if you don't want to keep talking about it."

She's not my mother and it's not a battle I want to fight. I'd rather just hope she doesn't notice that we're basically secular humanists who attend church. She's lucky I take the kids to any kind of church! If it were up to her son we'd never go.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]OP here. It’s not just reading, it’s making DC resist prayers over and over. I know my mother. This is not a nice open ended discussion about Jesus. This id fir her own satisfaction. She’s gotten sneaky in her old age. [/quote]

I believe you OP. My own mother did not do this, but I can't tell you the number of times I had to hear about my brother not baptizing his kids, to include her joking that she was going to get some holy water and baptize them when they were alone. She didn't do that, but I get it.

This is a huge breach of trust and crashing through boundaries. I think for me it would be a sit down with my mom, possibly with my husband there as well, and telling her that she doesn't have to like what I've chosen as an adult, but she has to accept it.

If she wanted to take your son to church, in the open, I'd probably argue that you should let her. But this sneaking around and asking him to keep the Bible reading secret is a no go. [/quote]

No, a random person can’t just baptize someone.

Troll. [/quote]

Actually, a random person can baptize someone. They don't even have to be Christian, only intend to "do what the Church does." Not that they should, of course. [/quote]

In what church? Where?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. It’s not just reading, it’s making DC resist prayers over and over. I know my mother. This is not a nice open ended discussion about Jesus. This id fir her own satisfaction. She’s gotten sneaky in her old age.

I believe you OP. My own mother did not do this, but I can't tell you the number of times I had to hear about my brother not baptizing his kids, to include her joking that she was going to get some holy water and baptize them when they were alone. She didn't do that, but I get it.

This is a huge breach of trust and crashing through boundaries. I think for me it would be a sit down with my mom, possibly with my husband there as well, and telling her that she doesn't have to like what I've chosen as an adult, but she has to accept it.

If she wanted to take your son to church, in the open, I'd probably argue that you should let her. But this sneaking around and asking him to keep the Bible reading secret is a no go.

No, a random person can’t just baptize someone.

Troll.

Actually, a random person can baptize someone. They don't even have to be Christian, only intend to "do what the Church does." Not that they should, of course.

This is complete bs. Can’t you even troll competently?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My mother has been very upset that we’ve held off in baptizing our kids. Neither DH nor I are religious and have decided to hold off on introducing it. Well, Dc informed us a few weeks ago that on the weekend afternoon s when she visits snd we’ve been letting her spend one on one time with DC hat she’s been whipping out a Bible and holy water and forcing DC to read aloud from it. From what my DC, who is in 5th grade, says, it sounds like my mom is really pushing it hard. I think she’s probably been doing this for months now. So, what’s next? She will
Fight hard for this and I feel like we may need to limit visits.

Holy water, really? Is grandma a priest?

Troll.

You’re very uninformed. Stop embarrassing yourself, troll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a "natural consequences" kind of person. The natural consequences of this attempt to convert your child behind your back is that your child is going to think Grandma is really not fun to be around.

My MIL tries to get my 5th and 7th graders to be evangelical Christians like her, instead of the liberal mainline Protestants we are. The 7th grader is completely over it. The 5th grader is freaked out by MIL's stories of the Devil and the Angel of Death visiting MIL in her bedroom at night (MIL has a weird fixation with these supposed visitations). Neither of them has been converted; they've just asked not to have to see Grandma every week. When necessary, I say things like, "Well you know MIL believes those things very literally. She thinks the Bible is 100% true and that God talks directly to her. Some people believe their religion is the only true one; they're called fundamentalists. Why don't you ask her to bake some brownies if you don't want to keep talking about it."

She's not my mother and it's not a battle I want to fight. I'd rather just hope she doesn't notice that we're basically secular humanists who attend church. She's lucky I take the kids to any kind of church! If it were up to her son we'd never go.

I just LOLed at the Devil and Angel of Death thing. But yes, grandma probably realizes you're secular humanists. But it sounds like you're trying to trick her into thinking you're more religious than you are. Just be straightforward.

[Anonymous]

Tell your little darling to stop swearing in Latin and spitting on Grandma.