Attention all disgruntled parents who red-shirted...

Anonymous
enough with all the different red shirting threads! Are you writing a report or something?
Anonymous
The "boredom" thing seems like a red herring, speaking as someone who was smack in the middle of her classmates, age-wise, and was bored for most of her pre-college education. If a child is very bright it is possible, perhaps even likely, that the material presented at school will be boring, and six months' age difference is unlikely to change this.
Anonymous
Obviously, older children are more likely to be bored than a child who is learning age appropriate material.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Obviously, older children are more likely to be bored than a child who is learning age appropriate material.


Actually, after about 1st grade, I think kids with a high IQ are more likely to be bored in a classroom geared to kids of average ability, regardless of whether the high IQ kids are youngest for their class, or oldest.
Anonymous
I am so sick of this topic -- do what you think is right for your kid and don't try to second guess what other parents do for theirs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I am so sick of this topic -- do what you think is right for your kid and don't try to second guess what other parents do for theirs.


I'm sorry you are sick of it, but if you were truly conflicted by this situation for your child, you would appreaciate ALL of the perspectives and experiences you can get your hands on, like me. So glad I stumbled on these threads.....been having lots of sleepless nights lately. If you dont' like them, don't open them.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I am so sick of this topic -- do what you think is right for your kid and don't try to second guess what other parents do for theirs.


SO STOP READING THE THREAD THEN. Asshole.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am so sick of this topic -- do what you think is right for your kid and don't try to second guess what other parents do for theirs.

SO STOP READING THE THREAD THEN. Asshole.

So quit starting multiple threads on the topic. Between the first page of this forum and the first page of the private schools forum, I count at least five different redshirting threads.

I used to be indifferent about redshirting, but over the past couple years of reading all the anti-redshirting garbage on DCUM, I've found myself becoming more in favor of redshirting -- not because I'm convinced redshirting is a good thing, but rather because so many anti-redshirters are such judgmental assholes. I figure whatever those jerks are against must be something worth fighting for.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am so sick of this topic -- do what you think is right for your kid and don't try to second guess what other parents do for theirs.

SO STOP READING THE THREAD THEN. Asshole.

So quit starting multiple threads on the topic. Between the first page of this forum and the first page of the private schools forum, I count at least five different redshirting threads.

I used to be indifferent about redshirting, but over the past couple years of reading all the anti-redshirting garbage on DCUM, I've found myself becoming more in favor of redshirting -- not because I'm convinced redshirting is a good thing, but rather because so many anti-redshirters are such judgmental assholes. I figure whatever those jerks are against must be something worth fighting for.


Right on, PP! I'm with you -- redshirting is awesome.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am so sick of this topic -- do what you think is right for your kid and don't try to second guess what other parents do for theirs.

SO STOP READING THE THREAD THEN. Asshole.

So quit starting multiple threads on the topic. Between the first page of this forum and the first page of the private schools forum, I count at least five different redshirting threads.

I used to be indifferent about redshirting, but over the past couple years of reading all the anti-redshirting garbage on DCUM, I've found myself becoming more in favor of redshirting -- not because I'm convinced redshirting is a good thing, but rather because so many anti-redshirters are such judgmental assholes. I figure whatever those jerks are against must be something worth fighting for.


I only ever met TWO kids who were heldback because of a disability. 1 had been to a preK targeting autism spectrum disorders and was April. Another was a March - repeated grade 2. That parent had enough - small for grade and young despite the Sept 30 cut-off. Who were the redshirts? kindergarten class of 15 included 4 boys who were NOT disabled, younger sibs, large for proper grade, older bro's/dads/moms/ cool people into sports.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am so sick of this topic -- do what you think is right for your kid and don't try to second guess what other parents do for theirs.

SO STOP READING THE THREAD THEN. Asshole.

So quit starting multiple threads on the topic. Between the first page of this forum and the first page of the private schools forum, I count at least five different redshirting threads.

I used to be indifferent about redshirting, but over the past couple years of reading all the anti-redshirting garbage on DCUM, I've found myself becoming more in favor of redshirting -- not because I'm convinced redshirting is a good thing, but rather because so many anti-redshirters are such judgmental assholes. I figure whatever those jerks are against must be something worth fighting for.


Right on, PP! I'm with you -- redshirting is awesome.


Yes, I'm with the do what you want think is best for YOUR child. While on the DCUM post, you may think that everyone seem anti-redshirting but in real life I have found it to be pro red-shirting and against any early entrance. I felt like I was part of some deep underground movement that are not only not red-shirting but trying to get our kids in that just miss the cutoff and as a parent we feel we know our child best. All I want is a fair evaluation of the here and now, does my child have what it takes as compared to most kids entering kindergarten ... not the story of your brother's cousin, or the story of your child that you are second guessing the decision for something 30 years ago even though he/she is a very successful adult today and just passed the bar, or a blanket statement that younger children always seem to be the most trouble in any classroom (which I have had a perfect stranger tell me at a party)

If you know where that fair evaluation exists for a post Oct 15th birthday in MCPS, please tell me and I will be happy to not post on this topic ever again on DCUM. So when I am talking about Martin Luther King with my 4 year old because they are reading about him in school and I ask does she understand what is meant by discrimination and she turns to me and says “is it like when they say you can’t go to kindergarten next year because you have a November birthday”, you can see why I feel strongly about being told what my child isn’t capable of doing without someone ever being willing to evaluate my child. I don’t know how much the world will change while my daughter is growing up but from what I have seen, there will be times when people will try to put a box around what they think you are capable of achieving because of things like gender, or race, or age, etc. So I’ve become a rebel not because I wanted to, but because I don’t want that to be a lesson my daughter learns at 4 years old!
Anonymous
The cutoff for MCPS is Sept 1. As far as being a rebel, you seem to be also saying to your child that there are rules but they should not apply to us. Life is not fair and sometimes we can't always get what we want. That might also be a good lesson to teach her. There are plenty of things you can do to teach her. You don't haveto wait for her to go to school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The cutoff for MCPS is Sept 1. As far as being a rebel, you seem to be also saying to your child that there are rules but they should not apply to us. Life is not fair and sometimes we can't always get what we want. That might also be a good lesson to teach her. There are plenty of things you can do to teach her. You don't haveto wait for her to go to school.


PP here. And yet Maryland law states clearly: For kindergarten-eligible students, state law allows for three exceptions to the attendance requirement: for immaturity; for attendance in a licensed child-care center; or for attendance in a registered family day-care home." I didn't see "but my child will be the youngest", "I have a gut feeling", or "he is kind of on the small side". When it is the other side of the coin rarely is the law quoted and if it is, parent knowing best seems to trump all. I guess hypocrisy can be added to those lessons. Or does that fall under "life isn't fair"?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The cutoff for MCPS is Sept 1. As far as being a rebel, you seem to be also saying to your child that there are rules but they should not apply to us. Life is not fair and sometimes we can't always get what we want. That might also be a good lesson to teach her. There are plenty of things you can do to teach her. You don't haveto wait for her to go to school.

PP here. And yet Maryland law states clearly: For kindergarten-eligible students, state law allows for three exceptions to the attendance requirement: for immaturity; for attendance in a licensed child-care center; or for attendance in a registered family day-care home." I didn't see "but my child will be the youngest", "I have a gut feeling", or "he is kind of on the small side". When it is the other side of the coin rarely is the law quoted and if it is, parent knowing best seems to trump all. I guess hypocrisy can be added to those lessons. Or does that fall under "life isn't fair"?

PP from 19:32 again. This is a perfect example of the "judgmental asshole" posts that have led me to become a supporter of redshirting. None of my kids are even close to the age cutoff line, and all started school as soon as possible, so I really shouldn't care about any of this. But ridiculous claims like this annoy me. So here is a direct quotation from the State of Maryland on the issue:
Maryland Department of Education wrote:
5. Can kindergarten be deferred on the basis of maturity?

Yes. State Board of Education regulations allow parents/guardians to file a request for a one-year level of maturity waiver for a kindergarten-age child, if the parents/guardians believe that a delay in kindergarten attendance is in the best interest of their child. Such a child, however, must attend kindergarten the next school year.
http://www.marylandpublicschools.org/MSDE/nonpublicschools/npdocs/fact_sheets/np_fact_kindergarten_attendance.htm

Contrary to PP's false claims, according to Maryland law, "parent knowing best" does indeed trump all. The State of Maryland seems to believe that the only factor necessary to trigger a delay of kindergarten is the parent's belief that delay is in the best interest of her own child -- nothing more. The law looks solely the belief of the child's parent, not the belief of you or any other judgmental ninnies on DCUM.
Anonymous
Thank you for the sanity post. Now please let's put this topic to rest.
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