16 yo Orphan Teen Deemed "Not Mature" Enough to Get an Abortion

[Anonymous]

Unfortunately her only choice is to give the baby up for adoption.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately her only choice is to give the baby up for adoption.

No, she has several options. She can come back in a week and petition again. Or she can keep the baby.

I hope she has some strong friends right now. Whatever she decides, it's tough.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here they go with the reactive and uninformed comments without reading the article and getting all the information. Next!

The case was not remanded, as it should have been. The reactive responses aren't off-base.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did anyone read the article? The judge told her to wait a couple days because she was distraught and grief stricken after a friend died. She previously wanted the pregnancy. Sounds like he just wanted her to take a breather before going forward. That doesn’t sound unreasonable. He didn’t say she wasn’t mature enough to get the abortion. Florida law says minors need parental consent because they lack the maturity to make the decision on their own. She has no parents so that’s why she has to to see the judge. I’m pro choice but y’all are taking the article out of context.

It’s so gross the way forced birthers try to excuse this stuff.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pro forced birthers are sickening. Truly shitty human beings.

x1 million

Why do they hate women and children so much?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She has a guardian who supports the abortion. Why is the guardian’s permission not enough?

Read the article, stupid. It clearly says she wanted the baby at one point and is grieving the death of a friend. Judge wants her to pause to make sure of decision before moving forward.
God, you’re dumb.

For someone in care, it is not easy to travel to the courthouse and make a petition again
Then she will have to find someone willing to do the procedure for next to nothing
Perhaps a back street abortion is the way to go, or she could try and medically poison herself
Having the baby or not having the baby will do nothing to save her from poverty

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did anyone read the article? The judge told her to wait a couple days because she was distraught and grief stricken after a friend died. She previously wanted the pregnancy. Sounds like he just wanted her to take a breather before going forward. That doesn’t sound unreasonable. He didn’t say she wasn’t mature enough to get the abortion. Florida law says minors need parental consent because they lack the maturity to make the decision on their own. She has no parents so that’s why she has to to see the judge. I’m pro choice but y’all are taking the article out of context.

It’s so gross the way forced birthers try to excuse this stuff.

I’m PP and making assumptions here - but maybe the friend that died was a huge source of support for her. Article says she wanted the pregnancy previously - perhaps in her grief she feels she can’t do this without her friend. Especially without the father involved. That’s understandable. The judge just wants to her to pause because it sounds like there is a lot of turmoil in this poor girls life. A baby will make it worse, no doubt, but I get wanting to give her time to make sure it’s what she wants to do. There are no takebacks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did anyone read the article? The judge told her to wait a couple days because she was distraught and grief stricken after a friend died. She previously wanted the pregnancy. Sounds like he just wanted her to take a breather before going forward. That doesn’t sound unreasonable. He didn’t say she wasn’t mature enough to get the abortion. Florida law says minors need parental consent because they lack the maturity to make the decision on their own. She has no parents so that’s why she has to to see the judge. I’m pro choice but y’all are taking the article out of context.

It’s so gross the way forced birthers try to excuse this stuff.

I’m PP and making assumptions here - but maybe the friend that died was a huge source of support for her. Article says she wanted the pregnancy previously - perhaps in her grief she feels she can’t do this without her friend. Especially without the father involved. That’s understandable. The judge just wants to her to pause because it sounds like there is a lot of turmoil in this poor girls life. A baby will make it worse, no doubt, but I get wanting to give her time to make sure it’s what she wants to do. There are no takebacks.

It’s so gross the way forced birthers try to excuse this stuff.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mature enough to be a parent, but not mature enough to get an abortion....

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/16/parentless-teen-cant-have-an-abortion-under-state-parental-consent-law-00052211
Florida court says teen isn't mature enough to get an abortion
The teen, identified only as Jane Doe 22-B, has no parents.

— A Florida court of appeal this week upheld a decision stating a 16-year-old teen could not get an abortion because she lacked the maturity to make such a decision, even after the parentless teen said she was not ready to have a child and is still in school.

An opinion released Monday by the Florida 1st District Court of Appeal upheld an earlier decision by a state court judge. That judge was not convinced the teen had demonstrated the maturity to choose to get an abortion. The teen, identified only as Jane Doe 22-B, has no parents but is in the care of Florida’s child welfare agency and has a guardian. She is about 10 weeks pregnant and currently resides with a relative.

“The minor states that she is sufficiently mature to make the decision, saying she ‘is not ready to have a baby,’ she doesn’t have a job, she is ‘still in school,’” the Monday order states. “And the father is unable to assist her.”

Florida abortion law requires parents to consent before a minor can have an abortion. But underage teens can also circumvent the consent requirement by asking for a waiver from a state circuit court judge. According to the appeal court’s decision, the teen’s guardian supports the teen’s wish to get an abortion.

Is she being forced to raise the child? Giving birth doesn’t make you a parent.

[Anonymous]

The guardian or parent decides until the child is an adult. No different than other laws.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did anyone read the article? The judge told her to wait a couple days because she was distraught and grief stricken after a friend died. She previously wanted the pregnancy. Sounds like he just wanted her to take a breather before going forward. That doesn’t sound unreasonable. He didn’t say she wasn’t mature enough to get the abortion. Florida law says minors need parental consent because they lack the maturity to make the decision on their own. She has no parents so that’s why she has to to see the judge. I’m pro choice but y’all are taking the article out of context.

It’s so gross the way forced birthers try to excuse this stuff.

I’m PP and making assumptions here - but maybe the friend that died was a huge source of support for her. Article says she wanted the pregnancy previously - perhaps in her grief she feels she can’t do this without her friend. Especially without the father involved. That’s understandable. The judge just wants to her to pause because it sounds like there is a lot of turmoil in this poor girls life. A baby will make it worse, no doubt, but I get wanting to give her time to make sure it’s what she wants to do. There are no takebacks.

It’s so gross the way forced birthers try to excuse this stuff.

They are monsters. Unbelievably arrogant monsters who obviously don't give a damn about children or babies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mature enough to be a parent, but not mature enough to get an abortion....

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/16/parentless-teen-cant-have-an-abortion-under-state-parental-consent-law-00052211
Florida court says teen isn't mature enough to get an abortion
The teen, identified only as Jane Doe 22-B, has no parents.

— A Florida court of appeal this week upheld a decision stating a 16-year-old teen could not get an abortion because she lacked the maturity to make such a decision, even after the parentless teen said she was not ready to have a child and is still in school.

An opinion released Monday by the Florida 1st District Court of Appeal upheld an earlier decision by a state court judge. That judge was not convinced the teen had demonstrated the maturity to choose to get an abortion. The teen, identified only as Jane Doe 22-B, has no parents but is in the care of Florida’s child welfare agency and has a guardian. She is about 10 weeks pregnant and currently resides with a relative.

“The minor states that she is sufficiently mature to make the decision, saying she ‘is not ready to have a baby,’ she doesn’t have a job, she is ‘still in school,’” the Monday order states. “And the father is unable to assist her.”

Florida abortion law requires parents to consent before a minor can have an abortion. But underage teens can also circumvent the consent requirement by asking for a waiver from a state circuit court judge. According to the appeal court’s decision, the teen’s guardian supports the teen’s wish to get an abortion.

Is she being forced to raise the child? Giving birth doesn’t make you a parent.

She’s being forced to carry a pregnancy that she doesn’t want.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If someone's not mature enough to get an abortion how could they possibly be mature enough to raise a baby? They are not just dooming the girl to a life of poverty and ignorance but also dooming the unborn to a life of poverty. Not that being poor should be a crime, but how many books will this unborn kid have in their home? How safe will their home be? How safe will their shitty daycare be? How healthy will their diet be?

"a domestic supply of infants"


She's not having the baby for her. That's the disconnect.

The bet is that she'll give it up for adoption, but the odds are that she will try to raise it. If the child is released for adoption, it likely won't be as part of the "domestic supply of infants," but as an older child with some baggage and scars of various kinds.

How long before they start making laws to force the baby away immediately after birth? Any bets?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately her only choice is to give the baby up for adoption.

Generally women of all ages don't do this, even when that is the plan. They try to raise the baby.

Sorry. Your going to have to make laws openly to take that choice away, if you want to guarantee free babies available.

[Anonymous]

Truly horrifying handmaids tale shit here. Because if she’s not mature enough to make the decision, surely that means she has to give the baby up for adoption. And it’s not like the judge is a parent who is denying permission but will support the child and baby. he’s just saying no.