Why is no one talking about the abysmal humanitarian catastrophe in Philly this year?

[Anonymous]

I’m not sure how this is any different from what’s been going on in Baltimore.

[Anonymous]

The voters in Philly are down with it

[Anonymous]

Racism is the cause.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Philly has descended into complete anarchy under progressive city leadership, especially the far left DA Krasner who refuses to admit his stance on basically prosecuting almost nothing has contributed directly to the lawlessness that is pervasive in Philly. There have been over 1,400 shootings and over 300+ murders in Philly this year, which are the highest numbers in the city's recorded history. It is a humanitarian crisis that progressive criminal justice has made far worse. Absolutely shocking the number of shootings and murders.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/11/us/philadelphia-gun-violence-shootings.html

Without guns, people cannot kill people as easy as now.
DA doesn’t live in the part of the city where all the crimes happen so he is not affected.
When not putting youthsinto jail, he saved a lots of young adults from carrying a criminal record. They will mature one day and become productive citizen.

Please provide a link that shows the stats. Are they more likely to become productive citizens or escalate their criminal behavior. I think it’s the latter

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Philly has descended into complete anarchy under progressive city leadership, especially the far left DA Krasner who refuses to admit his stance on basically prosecuting almost nothing has contributed directly to the lawlessness that is pervasive in Philly. There have been over 1,400 shootings and over 300+ murders in Philly this year, which are the highest numbers in the city's recorded history. It is a humanitarian crisis that progressive criminal justice has made far worse. Absolutely shocking the number of shootings and murders.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/11/us/philadelphia-gun-violence-shootings.html

As you can read in the headline: Philly is “awash in guns.”

More guns = more gun crime = more deaths.

It’s that simple.

Is it really that simple?

Nothing to do with flailing attempts at progressive criminal justice reform, defunding the police, “compassionate alternatives to incarceration” and other related nonsense? At some point, whether it’s Cali, NY, dc or otherwise, once crime has reached a fever pitch a result of progressive policy, there will be an overcorrection to address the insanity. Obviously no one wants to be wrong. No one wants to admit their methods aren’t working, but realistically we are less safe with progressives and their soft on crime policies. I am socially liberal. I voted for Biden. I live in city. I am just tired of weakness. You’re making my neighborhood in Capitol Hill less safe. People like Charles Allen or Nadeau. It’s the same sht in Philadelphia. You get these new school city council people who have focus groups comprised of sociologists and dei consultants who want to fix the world by endlessly “studying the roots causes of poverty” while implementing “restorative justice” or hiring “violence interruptors” instead of just cracking down and stopping the violence. It’s so annoying we’re in this science experiment stage right now which is so clearly failing. People will get away with what they can and right now they know that with progressives in charge there is now limit to what they can do. Carjackings, puppy stealing at gun point, atv riding all over the streets, and then they’re released right back out without consequence. It’s absurd, and then voters vote for it all over again to look virtuous.

It is that simple given that gun crime has surged around the country over the last 5 years in rural, urban, and suburban areas. Gun suicides has also skyrocketed.

It’s the easy access to guns.

[Anonymous]

Abbott should start sending buses

[Anonymous]

Democrat run city, not prosecuting crime, crap DA…..

Will never set foot there again for fear of being robbed or shot, that also includes Baltimore.

If you walk around these cities at night, yo I get what you deserve.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Democrat run city, not prosecuting crime, crap DA…..

Will never set foot there again for fear of being robbed or shot, that also includes Baltimore.

If you walk around these cities at night, yo I get what you deserve.

Then how do we explain the rise in crime in Fort Worth, Omaha, Jacksonville, Miami, etc. These are all Republican run cities.

[Anonymous]

You’re right, OP, we need a ban on all personal ownership of guns. Thanks for bringing this up.

[Anonymous]

Look, we have the most heavily armed civilian population in the world.

I have typed this here before, but there are different types of gun violence, and each one requires a different approach.

Gun safety laws help with mass shooters and domestic violence incidents.

They do NOT help with community violence, which this is. Almost all the community gun violence is conducted with illegal guns, so more gun laws don't help.

You know what helps?

1) Police presence
2) Clear and swift consequences (prosecutors). Not overly punitive. Don't put a person with a gun away for 5 years. But put them away immediately for six months. That's also not happening with the residual court delays from COVID.
3) Preventive programs using street outreach, hospital navigators to deal with victim/perpetrators, job programs, etc.

All three of those have to work together, in concert.

Progressives like the preventive programs and that's awesome. They are not so keen on the first two, and that's part of why you have significantly elevated crime in many communities right now.

The other piece is that when there is an officer-involved shooting, police legitimacy plummets. It used to have a temporary impact across the nation, and a sustained impact where the shooting occurred. Violent crime always rises. But now, all things are national, including this social impact of officer-involved shootings. An added factor here is whether local political leadership supports police. If it doesn't, violent crime continues at higher than normal levels.


Politicians need to learn how to simultaneously publicly support police and help them get better/safer. It's really not rocket science.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You’re right, OP, we need a ban on all personal ownership of guns. Thanks for bringing this up.

+1.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Democrat run city, not prosecuting crime, crap DA…..

Will never set foot there again for fear of being robbed or shot, that also includes Baltimore.

If you walk around these cities at night, yo I get what you deserve.

Then how do we explain the rise in crime in Fort Worth, Omaha, Jacksonville, Miami, etc. These are all Republican run cities.

Still waiting on a response. inb4 something racist as your explanation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP doesn't care, they just want to push an agenda.

It's a poor lookout for Democrats if they think that guns are a Republican problem and therefore they're not going to do anything about the murderers.

it might be a good idea to push further for gun control, and also crack down on violent crime. I'm not seeing a downside. If someone says "but it will mostly affect poor and Black people", I'd say their poor and black victims would be very happy to see a crackdown, no?

Krasner was just reelected, FYI

Agree. This is what the people of Philly want. Let them have it.

[Anonymous]

Who cares? The citizens elected the politicians they deserve and now they can deal with the consequences. Perhaps make more informed decisions in the future. Or probably not and continue to spiral downwards.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Democrat run city, not prosecuting crime, crap DA…..

Will never set foot there again for fear of being robbed or shot, that also includes Baltimore.

If you walk around these cities at night, yo I get what you deserve.

Then how do we explain the rise in crime in Fort Worth, Omaha, Jacksonville, Miami, etc. These are all Republican run cities.

Still waiting on a response. inb4 something racist as your explanation.

You're not going to get a response, because it doesn't fit the narrative that only blue urban areas have crime. You also won't get a response when you point out that rural America is having a crime spike.