Plan B if Elrich wins tomorrow...

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Anonymous wrote:It was tried (Floreen) in the last election. Too many peopel blindly vote for the "(D)" person without even reading the name.

Even a super-moderate Republicn doesn't stand a chance.

The best long-term solution is open primaries. Youd' then end up with 2 D's in the general and at least one would be relatively normal.

Floreen was late to the ballot and didn’t have the funding and organization that Riemer does.

Floreen's PAC was funded better than Elrich's PAC as I recall. She was late to the race, but her numbers were pretty low regardless.

Riemer is a different candidate with a different brand. He inspires a lot of people and has developed a following. He has the opportunity to really do this. The question is whether he’s committed enough.

Riemer is polling a distant third, while Elrich and Blair are tied. I guess Riemer needs to inspire more people!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It was tried (Floreen) in the last election. Too many peopel blindly vote for the "(D)" person without even reading the name.

Even a super-moderate Republicn doesn't stand a chance.

The best long-term solution is open primaries. Youd' then end up with 2 D's in the general and at least one would be relatively normal.

Floreen was late to the ballot and didn’t have the funding and organization that Riemer does.

Floreen's PAC was funded better than Elrich's PAC as I recall. She was late to the race, but her numbers were pretty low regardless.

Riemer is a different candidate with a different brand. He inspires a lot of people and has developed a following. He has the opportunity to really do this. The question is whether he’s committed enough.

Riemer is polling a distant third, while Elrich and Blair are tied. I guess Riemer needs to inspire more people!

In a one-on-one match up with Elrich, Riemer would easily prevail. He really should do it and run in the general election. He’s basically running as a Green Party candidate anyway.

[Anonymous]

Elrich beat Floreen by 46 pts in the general election. If every one who voted for Ficker voted for Floreen she still would have lost by 30 points. I didn't think she would win but I didn't know it would be that lopsided, given how many people didn't like Elrich. If he wins the primary this year you might as well accept that he will be Exec for another 4 years.

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Anonymous wrote:It was tried (Floreen) in the last election. Too many peopel blindly vote for the "(D)" person without even reading the name.

Even a super-moderate Republicn doesn't stand a chance.

The best long-term solution is open primaries. Youd' then end up with 2 D's in the general and at least one would be relatively normal.

Floreen was late to the ballot and didn’t have the funding and organization that Riemer does.

Floreen's PAC was funded better than Elrich's PAC as I recall. She was late to the race, but her numbers were pretty low regardless.

Riemer is a different candidate with a different brand. He inspires a lot of people and has developed a following. He has the opportunity to really do this. The question is whether he’s committed enough.

I already have very little respect for Riemer. I’d have even less if he did this. His negativity and misguided views certainly aren’t inspiring.

There are a lot of people in this county that like and support Riemer and I hope he’s drafted to run in the general. He will be a formidable candidate and will likely win.

When he signed up for the primary, he took a pledge not to run as an independent or third-party candidate in the general. I know his word isn’t worth much, but he would have even less appeal in the general than Floreen did.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It was tried (Floreen) in the last election. Too many peopel blindly vote for the "(D)" person without even reading the name.

Even a super-moderate Republicn doesn't stand a chance.

The best long-term solution is open primaries. Youd' then end up with 2 D's in the general and at least one would be relatively normal.

Floreen was late to the ballot and didn’t have the funding and organization that Riemer does.

Floreen's PAC was funded better than Elrich's PAC as I recall. She was late to the race, but her numbers were pretty low regardless.

Riemer is a different candidate with a different brand. He inspires a lot of people and has developed a following. He has the opportunity to really do this. The question is whether he’s committed enough.

I already have very little respect for Riemer. I’d have even less if he did this. His negativity and misguided views certainly aren’t inspiring.

There are a lot of people in this county that like and support Riemer and I hope he’s drafted to run in the general. He will be a formidable candidate and will likely win.

When he signed up for the primary, he took a pledge not to run as an independent or third-party candidate in the general. I know his word isn’t worth much, but he would have even less appeal in the general than Floreen did.

The future of this county is more important than any party. Those sorts of pledges are meaningless anyway. I sincerely hope that he does it.

[Anonymous]

It's really hard to understand how anyone could "like" Elrich, unless it's for the Nimby-ism. He's wildly incompetent, makes incoherent speeches, seems out of his depth on crime, isn't respected by the police, and isn't well-liked by anyone on County Council. I will be voting for Blair tomorrow, and encourage others to as well. The County desperately needs a change. Blair seems to be high-energy, competent, and has management experience, which is a large part of this job! For those who are voting Elrich to stop development, I would remind you that real estate prices continue to price young families and middle class folks out of our County, and this will mean long-term decline for our schools and businesses.

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Anonymous wrote:If he wins, we need to go for plan B and that means drafting someone to either run an independent campaign or, run as a Republican against him in the general.

Isn't Robin Ficker running on the republican primary tomorrow like he does every 4 years?

Yes but this time it’s the Republican primary for Governor.

Yes, you're right. There are 2 people running for republican county executive. So one will advance. The OP was like "we have to get someone to run as a republican" but that is already going to happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's really hard to understand how anyone could "like" Elrich, unless it's for the Nimby-ism. He's wildly incompetent, makes incoherent speeches, seems out of his depth on crime, isn't respected by the police, and isn't well-liked by anyone on County Council. I will be voting for Blair tomorrow, and encourage others to as well. The County desperately needs a change. Blair seems to be high-energy, competent, and has management experience, which is a large part of this job! For those who are voting Elrich to stop development, I would remind you that real estate prices continue to price young families and middle class folks out of our County, and this will mean long-term decline for our schools and businesses.

I like Elrich because of his Covid record. I don't actually know much else about him. It's just that with Covid still very much a factor, another Elrich term would reassure me in terms of health policies. Now if you can point me to what Blair would do, I'm all ears...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It was tried (Floreen) in the last election. Too many peopel blindly vote for the "(D)" person without even reading the name.

Even a super-moderate Republicn doesn't stand a chance.

The best long-term solution is open primaries. Youd' then end up with 2 D's in the general and at least one would be relatively normal.

Floreen was late to the ballot and didn’t have the funding and organization that Riemer does.

Floreen's PAC was funded better than Elrich's PAC as I recall. She was late to the race, but her numbers were pretty low regardless.

Riemer is a different candidate with a different brand. He inspires a lot of people and has developed a following. He has the opportunity to really do this. The question is whether he’s committed enough.

I already have very little respect for Riemer. I’d have even less if he did this. His negativity and misguided views certainly aren’t inspiring.

There are a lot of people in this county that like and support Riemer and I hope he’s drafted to run in the general. He will be a formidable candidate and will likely win.

When he signed up for the primary, he took a pledge not to run as an independent or third-party candidate in the general. I know his word isn’t worth much, but he would have even less appeal in the general than Floreen did.

The future of this county is more important than any party. Those sorts of pledges are meaningless anyway. I sincerely hope that he does it.

If you can’t honor a pledge, what else won’t you honor? If Riemer loses tomorrow, it’s time for him to fade away. What you consider “meaningless” would be a HUGE red flag about his character. I want a county exec I can trust, not one who picks and chooses when to honor his commitments.

Unfortunately, I can see him doing it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It was tried (Floreen) in the last election. Too many peopel blindly vote for the "(D)" person without even reading the name.

Even a super-moderate Republicn doesn't stand a chance.

The best long-term solution is open primaries. Youd' then end up with 2 D's in the general and at least one would be relatively normal.

Floreen was late to the ballot and didn’t have the funding and organization that Riemer does.

Floreen's PAC was funded better than Elrich's PAC as I recall. She was late to the race, but her numbers were pretty low regardless.

Riemer is a different candidate with a different brand. He inspires a lot of people and has developed a following. He has the opportunity to really do this. The question is whether he’s committed enough.

I already have very little respect for Riemer. I’d have even less if he did this. His negativity and misguided views certainly aren’t inspiring.

There are a lot of people in this county that like and support Riemer and I hope he’s drafted to run in the general. He will be a formidable candidate and will likely win.

When he signed up for the primary, he took a pledge not to run as an independent or third-party candidate in the general. I know his word isn’t worth much, but he would have even less appeal in the general than Floreen did.

The future of this county is more important than any party. Those sorts of pledges are meaningless anyway. I sincerely hope that he does it.

If you can’t honor a pledge, what else won’t you honor? If Riemer loses tomorrow, it’s time for him to fade away. What you consider “meaningless” would be a HUGE red flag about his character. I want a county exec I can trust, not one who picks and chooses when to honor his commitments.

Unfortunately, I can see him doing it.

I hope he does do it and all of his supporters should be encouraging him to do so.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It was tried (Floreen) in the last election. Too many peopel blindly vote for the "(D)" person without even reading the name.

Even a super-moderate Republicn doesn't stand a chance.

The best long-term solution is open primaries. Youd' then end up with 2 D's in the general and at least one would be relatively normal.

Floreen was late to the ballot and didn’t have the funding and organization that Riemer does.

Floreen's PAC was funded better than Elrich's PAC as I recall. She was late to the race, but her numbers were pretty low regardless.

Riemer is a different candidate with a different brand. He inspires a lot of people and has developed a following. He has the opportunity to really do this. The question is whether he’s committed enough.

I already have very little respect for Riemer. I’d have even less if he did this. His negativity and misguided views certainly aren’t inspiring.

There are a lot of people in this county that like and support Riemer and I hope he’s drafted to run in the general. He will be a formidable candidate and will likely win.

When he signed up for the primary, he took a pledge not to run as an independent or third-party candidate in the general. I know his word isn’t worth much, but he would have even less appeal in the general than Floreen did.

The future of this county is more important than any party. Those sorts of pledges are meaningless anyway. I sincerely hope that he does it.

If you can’t honor a pledge, what else won’t you honor? If Riemer loses tomorrow, it’s time for him to fade away. What you consider “meaningless” would be a HUGE red flag about his character. I want a county exec I can trust, not one who picks and chooses when to honor his commitments.

Unfortunately, I can see him doing it.

I hope he does do it and all of his supporters should be encouraging him to do so.

You are comfortable with a candidate going back on his word? You don’t see that as a major character flaw?

I’ve already written Riemer off as self-serving and untrustworthy. That’s why I wrote above that I can see him doing it. How would you feel if another candidate made the choice not to honor that pledge? Would you be equally okay with Blair doing it, for example? Would you give him the same “it’s not a big deal to go back on your word” as you do Riemer?

Integrity matters to me. It’s what I expect of elected officials.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It was tried (Floreen) in the last election. Too many peopel blindly vote for the "(D)" person without even reading the name.

Even a super-moderate Republicn doesn't stand a chance.

The best long-term solution is open primaries. Youd' then end up with 2 D's in the general and at least one would be relatively normal.

Floreen was late to the ballot and didn’t have the funding and organization that Riemer does.

Floreen's PAC was funded better than Elrich's PAC as I recall. She was late to the race, but her numbers were pretty low regardless.

Riemer is a different candidate with a different brand. He inspires a lot of people and has developed a following. He has the opportunity to really do this. The question is whether he’s committed enough.

I already have very little respect for Riemer. I’d have even less if he did this. His negativity and misguided views certainly aren’t inspiring.

There are a lot of people in this county that like and support Riemer and I hope he’s drafted to run in the general. He will be a formidable candidate and will likely win.

When he signed up for the primary, he took a pledge not to run as an independent or third-party candidate in the general. I know his word isn’t worth much, but he would have even less appeal in the general than Floreen did.

The future of this county is more important than any party. Those sorts of pledges are meaningless anyway. I sincerely hope that he does it.

If you can’t honor a pledge, what else won’t you honor? If Riemer loses tomorrow, it’s time for him to fade away. What you consider “meaningless” would be a HUGE red flag about his character. I want a county exec I can trust, not one who picks and chooses when to honor his commitments.

Unfortunately, I can see him doing it.

I hope he does do it and all of his supporters should be encouraging him to do so.

Maryland has a sore loser law. Riemer will not be allowed on the ballot as an unaffiliated or third-party candidate after he loses the primary. It’s funny how Riemer’s most ardent supporters are also the least informed about what’s going on or how things work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's really hard to understand how anyone could "like" Elrich, unless it's for the Nimby-ism. He's wildly incompetent, makes incoherent speeches, seems out of his depth on crime, isn't respected by the police, and isn't well-liked by anyone on County Council. I will be voting for Blair tomorrow, and encourage others to as well. The County desperately needs a change. Blair seems to be high-energy, competent, and has management experience, which is a large part of this job! For those who are voting Elrich to stop development, I would remind you that real estate prices continue to price young families and middle class folks out of our County, and this will mean long-term decline for our schools and businesses.

I’m happy with the way that COVID was handled. I trust Raskin and value his endorsement.
I have multiple concerns about Blair, and neither his emails nor his supporters have given me good reasons to vote for him.

[Anonymous]

I will vote for Sully. And pray enough public safety supporting Councilmembers get elected that will hold Elrich at bay.

But if Elrich wins, expect a MASS exodus of department directors and other key staff.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I will vote for Sully. And pray enough public safety supporting Councilmembers get elected that will hold Elrich at bay.

But if Elrich wins, expect a MASS exodus of department directors and other key staff.

We were discussing this over dinner tonight. There is the fear of an anti-public safety council and exec (again). Considering the current state of employee morale under the existing council/exec, voting in more of the same could be a real problem.