What is MCPS doing to make schools safer?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Gun control

Gun control has nothing to do with making MCPS safer. MCPS is doing nothing. Most parents wanted them to remove SRO's and police from the schools. They did.

How did the police do in Uvalde? Or Parkland?

Don’t get me wrong, I support having SROs in schools. I just think it is ridiculous to think they’d stop school shootings.

They didn't do well but that's not a justification to not have them. If they did their job they would have gone in, killed the killer and got those kids medical attention and that is the point.

But it’s rare an SRO does anything so that us a justification for not having them. Uvalda is the norm not the exception.

Gun laws stop gun violence.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gun control

Gun control has nothing to do with making MCPS safer. MCPS is doing nothing. Most parents wanted them to remove SRO's and police from the schools. They did.

How did the police do in Uvalde? Or Parkland?

Don’t get me wrong, I support having SROs in schools. I just think it is ridiculous to think they’d stop school shootings.

They didn't do well but that's not a justification to not have them. If they did their job they would have gone in, killed the killer and got those kids medical attention and that is the point.

If these incidents are representative, SROs will stand around, run away or arrest parents.

There have been SRO's who have also saved lives.

No there have not been.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gun control

Gun control has nothing to do with making MCPS safer. MCPS is doing nothing. Most parents wanted them to remove SRO's and police from the schools. They did.

How did the police do in Uvalde? Or Parkland?

Don’t get me wrong, I support having SROs in schools. I just think it is ridiculous to think they’d stop school shootings.

Most school shootings are like the Magruder shooting. They aren't mass shootings. And having a police officer present is associated with a shooting more likely to be non-fatal.

And most parents did NOT want SROs removed. A very vocal group of about 20 students wanted them removed. And Elrich took advantage of that and unilaterally removed them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gun control

Gun control has nothing to do with making MCPS safer. MCPS is doing nothing. Most parents wanted them to remove SRO's and police from the schools. They did.

How did the police do in Uvalde? Or Parkland?

Don’t get me wrong, I support having SROs in schools. I just think it is ridiculous to think they’d stop school shootings.

Most school shootings are like the Magruder shooting. They aren't mass shootings. And having a police officer present is associated with a shooting more likely to be non-fatal.

And most parents did NOT want SROs removed. A very vocal group of about 20 students wanted them removed. And Elrich took advantage of that and unilaterally removed them.

No police do not stop Magruder like shootings.

20 students 😂

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gun control

Gun control has nothing to do with making MCPS safer. MCPS is doing nothing. Most parents wanted them to remove SRO's and police from the schools. They did.

How did the police do in Uvalde? Or Parkland?

Don’t get me wrong, I support having SROs in schools. I just think it is ridiculous to think they’d stop school shootings.

They didn't do well but that's not a justification to not have them. If they did their job they would have gone in, killed the killer and got those kids medical attention and that is the point.

If these incidents are representative, SROs will stand around, run away or arrest parents.

There have been SRO's who have also saved lives.

No there have not been.

Yes there are. Google is your friend.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gun control

Gun control has nothing to do with making MCPS safer. MCPS is doing nothing. Most parents wanted them to remove SRO's and police from the schools. They did.

How did the police do in Uvalde? Or Parkland?

Don’t get me wrong, I support having SROs in schools. I just think it is ridiculous to think they’d stop school shootings.

They didn't do well but that's not a justification to not have them. If they did their job they would have gone in, killed the killer and got those kids medical attention and that is the point.

If these incidents are representative, SROs will stand around, run away or arrest parents.

There have been SRO's who have also saved lives.

No there have not been.

Yes there are. Google is your friend.

There have not been any cases so google is your enemy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gun control

Gun control has nothing to do with making MCPS safer. MCPS is doing nothing. Most parents wanted them to remove SRO's and police from the schools. They did.

How did the police do in Uvalde? Or Parkland?

Don’t get me wrong, I support having SROs in schools. I just think it is ridiculous to think they’d stop school shootings.

Most school shootings are like the Magruder shooting. They aren't mass shootings. And having a police officer present is associated with a shooting more likely to be non-fatal.

And most parents did NOT want SROs removed. A very vocal group of about 20 students wanted them removed. And Elrich took advantage of that and unilaterally removed them.

Is it true that there’s an association between school shootings with less serious outcomes and having police stationed at the school?

Regardless, while I’m skeptical there’s any value to SROs with respect to school shootings, I support having SROs in schools. Removing SROs didn’t stop MCPS from calling the police into schools, sometimes for ridiculous things. I'd rather have someone specifically trained for that role respond to those calls than whoever is patrolling near the school.

[Anonymous]

Aren't SROs are coming back as CEOs?

Fundamentally, though, if a shooter with an assault rifle and sufficient ammo wants in then a vestibule won't stop him - though shooting through it will give the school earlier notice. Similarly, a determined shooter can get in through a window. Or just open up during lunch or recess, or at the start or end of the day. There's no meaningful way to defend against the worst attacks. These efforts will stop some less extreme violence, though.

Let's just keep practicing lockdown drills until this country can get effective gun control enacted. But don't hold your breath.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe I’ve missed it, but I haven’t seen anything about increased security at MCPS schools or even what the safety measures already in place are. I went to the website and could not find info on this. I’ve noticed differences between schools when it comes to security measures. I’d like to know what MCPS already requires, and what it is planning to do county-wide.

They've been adding security vestibules to schools for the past few years:

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/facilities/construction/project/securityinitiatives.aspx

LOL And putting covers over the portables to hide them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They've been adding security vestibules to schools for the past few years:

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/facilities/construction/project/securityinitiatives.aspx

Anonymous wrote:LOL And putting covers over the portables to hide them?

Schools aren't - and won't ever be - fortresses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They've been adding security vestibules to schools for the past few years:

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/facilities/construction/project/securityinitiatives.aspx

Anonymous wrote:LOL And putting covers over the portables to hide them?

Schools aren't - and won't ever be - fortresses.

Given all the recent school violence maybe they should be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gun control

Gun control has nothing to do with making MCPS safer. MCPS is doing nothing. Most parents wanted them to remove SRO's and police from the schools. They did.

How did the police do in Uvalde? Or Parkland?

Don’t get me wrong, I support having SROs in schools. I just think it is ridiculous to think they’d stop school shootings.

They didn't do well but that's not a justification to not have them. If they did their job they would have gone in, killed the killer and got those kids medical attention and that is the point.

If these incidents are representative, SROs will stand around, run away or arrest parents.

There have been SRO's who have also saved lives.

No there have not been.

Yes there are. Google is your friend.

There have not been any cases so google is your enemy.

What is wrong with you? Of course there are positive stories.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gun control

Gun control has nothing to do with making MCPS safer. MCPS is doing nothing. Most parents wanted them to remove SRO's and police from the schools. They did.

How did the police do in Uvalde? Or Parkland?

Don’t get me wrong, I support having SROs in schools. I just think it is ridiculous to think they’d stop school shootings.

They didn't do well but that's not a justification to not have them. If they did their job they would have gone in, killed the killer and got those kids medical attention and that is the point.

If these incidents are representative, SROs will stand around, run away or arrest parents.

There have been SRO's who have also saved lives.

No there have not been.

Guess you didn’t attend the SRO/Principal forum this week when an SRO discussed intervening with a group of kids who had constructed bombs filled with nails as shrapnel and who were targeting the principal. That principal said he feels the SRO saved his life.

[Anonymous]

I am a former WJ parent and not the pp. A few years back, a student went to the SRO about a former student who was showing photos on SM of himself with an ak47 and statements about shooting up his former school. He was arrested and no one was shot. I count that as am SRO saving lives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gun control

Gun control has nothing to do with making MCPS safer. MCPS is doing nothing. Most parents wanted them to remove SRO's and police from the schools. They did.

How did the police do in Uvalde? Or Parkland?

Don’t get me wrong, I support having SROs in schools. I just think it is ridiculous to think they’d stop school shootings.

They didn't do well but that's not a justification to not have them. If they did their job they would have gone in, killed the killer and got those kids medical attention and that is the point.

And if I had long ears and a cotton tail, I’d be a bunny.

Let’s live in reality and not in “if they did their job,” shall we?