APS teacher diversity?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The South Arlington schools are more diverse to varying degrees

Interesting...that doesn't seem very equitable. Should principals be rewarded based on diverse hiring?

No. You don’t understand how bad it is right. I work in a different district and we are happy when we get any applicant with a teaching license or a way we can get them a provisional. We are looking for race or equity. We are looking for someone who wants the job who had the minimal qualifications. I’m not even talking about special ed positions. Some of those have been open all year.

That's part of the problem, just looking for whoever meets the minimum qualifications. APS - rightly - has historically tried to hire "highly qualified" staff. Savvy principals look to hire dually-certified teachers for flexibility in classroom assignments as each year needs.

I realize that's been a luxury and we can't be overly-picky these days. Nevertheless -- here come the racist accusations -- one possibility is that there are fewer people of color who are qualified, and even fewer who are considered highly qualified. Secondly, the correlations between race and education/occupation aligns with the fact that support and custodial staff are more likely to be minorities. Thirdly, I think it is likely that when they do have openings and hire diverse staff, they will want to place them in the more diverse schools if possible....the whole "see teachers who look like me" idea.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The South Arlington schools are more diverse to varying degrees

Interesting...that doesn't seem very equitable. Should principals be rewarded based on diverse hiring?

No. You don’t understand how bad it is right. I work in a different district and we are happy when we get any applicant with a teaching license or a way we can get them a provisional. We are looking for race or equity. We are looking for someone who wants the job who had the minimal qualifications. I’m not even talking about special ed positions. Some of those have been open all year.

That's part of the problem, just looking for whoever meets the minimum qualifications. APS - rightly - has historically tried to hire "highly qualified" staff. Savvy principals look to hire dually-certified teachers for flexibility in classroom assignments as each year needs.

I realize that's been a luxury and we can't be overly-picky these days. Nevertheless -- here come the racist accusations -- one possibility is that there are fewer people of color who are qualified, and even fewer who are considered highly qualified. Secondly, the correlations between race and education/occupation aligns with the fact that support and custodial staff are more likely to be minorities. Thirdly, I think it is likely that when they do have openings and hire diverse staff, they will want to place them in the more diverse schools if possible....the whole "see teachers who look like me" idea.

So "Highly Qualified" is code word for racist? Just like "Walkable"? Maybe APS should hire teachers who just meet the minimum qualifications for Equity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:LOL. We're desperate for teachers at all schools. Please don't bring your woke baloney into play. We need anyone who can be provisionally certified, it doesn't matter what their gender, race or ethnicity. Some of you just don't get it.

+1. There's a teacher shortage, there's substitute shortage. Please worry about real problems, such as if your kids are actually learning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The South Arlington schools are more diverse to varying degrees

Interesting...that doesn't seem very equitable. Should principals be rewarded based on diverse hiring?

No. You don’t understand how bad it is right. I work in a different district and we are happy when we get any applicant with a teaching license or a way we can get them a provisional. We are looking for race or equity. We are looking for someone who wants the job who had the minimal qualifications. I’m not even talking about special ed positions. Some of those have been open all year.

That's part of the problem, just looking for whoever meets the minimum qualifications. APS - rightly - has historically tried to hire "highly qualified" staff. Savvy principals look to hire dually-certified teachers for flexibility in classroom assignments as each year needs.

I realize that's been a luxury and we can't be overly-picky these days. Nevertheless -- here come the racist accusations -- one possibility is that there are fewer people of color who are qualified, and even fewer who are considered highly qualified. Secondly, the correlations between race and education/occupation aligns with the fact that support and custodial staff are more likely to be minorities. Thirdly, I think it is likely that when they do have openings and hire diverse staff, they will want to place them in the more diverse schools if possible....the whole "see teachers who look like me" idea.

LOL. You still aren't getting it. We have applications in the portal. We have LOTS of applications in the portal. We go through it every.single.day. Same people. Believe me when I tell you that we aren't hiring those people because NO.ONE. in their right mind would hire them. When we see anyone who looks even remotely likely, we, all the principals are leapfrogging over each other to get that person on the phone as fast as possible. Frankly, I don't care if they look like Charley the Tuna or Mork from Ork, if they are remotely able to teach, I will hire them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The South Arlington schools are more diverse to varying degrees

Interesting...that doesn't seem very equitable. Should principals be rewarded based on diverse hiring?

No. You don’t understand how bad it is right. I work in a different district and we are happy when we get any applicant with a teaching license or a way we can get them a provisional. We are looking for race or equity. We are looking for someone who wants the job who had the minimal qualifications. I’m not even talking about special ed positions. Some of those have been open all year.

That's part of the problem, just looking for whoever meets the minimum qualifications. APS - rightly - has historically tried to hire "highly qualified" staff. Savvy principals look to hire dually-certified teachers for flexibility in classroom assignments as each year needs.

I realize that's been a luxury and we can't be overly-picky these days. Nevertheless -- here come the racist accusations -- one possibility is that there are fewer people of color who are qualified, and even fewer who are considered highly qualified. Secondly, the correlations between race and education/occupation aligns with the fact that support and custodial staff are more likely to be minorities. Thirdly, I think it is likely that when they do have openings and hire diverse staff, they will want to place them in the more diverse schools if possible....the whole "see teachers who look like me" idea.

LOL. You still aren't getting it. We have applications in the portal. We have LOTS of applications in the portal. We go through it every.single.day. Same people. Believe me when I tell you that we aren't hiring those people because NO.ONE. in their right mind would hire them. When we see anyone who looks even remotely likely, we, all the principals are leapfrogging over each other to get that person on the phone as fast as possible. Frankly, I don't care if they look like Charley the Tuna or Mork from Ork, if they are remotely able to teach, I will hire them.

+1 Our school has a hard to fill program and after a long time they found someone…who couldn’t pass a background check

[Anonymous]

I think it is funny that someone actually believes that there are a bunch of black teachers not getting hired by white principals or black principals or purple or any color principals.

And what about the new college grads?

Young black people are just as capable as young white people in knowing that teaching is not a good profession to go into because the pay is low and you're treated like dog poop on a shoe by parents. If you're graduating from college right now, you don't go into a profession like teaching, you follow the money and you go into professions where your work will be valued.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it is funny that someone actually believes that there are a bunch of black teachers not getting hired by white principals or black principals or purple or any color principals.

And what about the new college grads?

Young black people are just as capable as young white people in knowing that teaching is not a good profession to go into because the pay is low and you're treated like dog poop on a shoe by parents. If you're graduating from college right now, you don't go into a profession like teaching, you follow the money and you go into professions where your work will be valued.

I think the real problem is that many NA neighborhood Elementary Schools do no have a very diverse teaching staff. More specifically Tuckahoe, Cardinal, Nottingham, Jamestown, Taylor....but others probably know better.

[Anonymous]

^not^

[Anonymous]

Discovery too?

[Anonymous]

Separate but equal?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it is funny that someone actually believes that there are a bunch of black teachers not getting hired by white principals or black principals or purple or any color principals.

And what about the new college grads?

Young black people are just as capable as young white people in knowing that teaching is not a good profession to go into because the pay is low and you're treated like dog poop on a shoe by parents. If you're graduating from college right now, you don't go into a profession like teaching, you follow the money and you go into professions where your work will be valued.

I think the real problem is that many NA neighborhood Elementary Schools do no have a very diverse teaching staff. More specifically Tuckahoe, Cardinal, Nottingham, Jamestown, Taylor....but others probably know better.

Again, a non-issue if I can't find anyone else to hire. Warm bodies over no bodies is my motto. Yours seems to be different. I guess I'm just not woke enough in my little 75+% COC school. LOL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it is funny that someone actually believes that there are a bunch of black teachers not getting hired by white principals or black principals or purple or any color principals.

And what about the new college grads?

Young black people are just as capable as young white people in knowing that teaching is not a good profession to go into because the pay is low and you're treated like dog poop on a shoe by parents. If you're graduating from college right now, you don't go into a profession like teaching, you follow the money and you go into professions where your work will be valued.

I think the real problem is that many NA neighborhood Elementary Schools do no have a very diverse teaching staff. More specifically Tuckahoe, Cardinal, Nottingham, Jamestown, Taylor....but others probably know better.

PP, you DO realize that you're exactly the type of parent who is the problem, don't you? That it is the people like you, always creating drama and lashing out, that make the teaching profession undesirable? If you, and people like you, would stay in your lane, perhaps more people would want to be teachers. As it is, I find you embarrassing with your virtue signaling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it is funny that someone actually believes that there are a bunch of black teachers not getting hired by white principals or black principals or purple or any color principals.

And what about the new college grads?

Young black people are just as capable as young white people in knowing that teaching is not a good profession to go into because the pay is low and you're treated like dog poop on a shoe by parents. If you're graduating from college right now, you don't go into a profession like teaching, you follow the money and you go into professions where your work will be valued.

I think the real problem is that many NA neighborhood Elementary Schools do no have a very diverse teaching staff. More specifically Tuckahoe, Cardinal, Nottingham, Jamestown, Taylor....but others probably know better.

PP, you DO realize that you're exactly the type of parent who is the problem, don't you? That it is the people like you, always creating drama and lashing out, that make the teaching profession undesirable? If you, and people like you, would stay in your lane, perhaps more people would want to be teachers. As it is, I find you embarrassing with your virtue signaling.

Most of the diverse teachers at these schools left when Spanish Specials were canceled. APS could do so much better...many of these students will not have a diverse teacher until they get to middle school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it is funny that someone actually believes that there are a bunch of black teachers not getting hired by white principals or black principals or purple or any color principals.

And what about the new college grads?

Young black people are just as capable as young white people in knowing that teaching is not a good profession to go into because the pay is low and you're treated like dog poop on a shoe by parents. If you're graduating from college right now, you don't go into a profession like teaching, you follow the money and you go into professions where your work will be valued.

I think the real problem is that many NA neighborhood Elementary Schools do no have a very diverse teaching staff. More specifically Tuckahoe, Cardinal, Nottingham, Jamestown, Taylor....but others probably know better.

PP, you DO realize that you're exactly the type of parent who is the problem, don't you? That it is the people like you, always creating drama and lashing out, that make the teaching profession undesirable? If you, and people like you, would stay in your lane, perhaps more people would want to be teachers. As it is, I find you embarrassing with your virtue signaling.

Most of the diverse teachers at these schools left when Spanish Specials were canceled. APS could do so much better...many of these students will not have a diverse teacher until they get to middle school.

Again, this isn't soley an APS problem, there are teacher shortages, the vast majority of teachers are white. What do you want them to do, force diverse teachers to go to the North?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it is funny that someone actually believes that there are a bunch of black teachers not getting hired by white principals or black principals or purple or any color principals.

And what about the new college grads?

Young black people are just as capable as young white people in knowing that teaching is not a good profession to go into because the pay is low and you're treated like dog poop on a shoe by parents. If you're graduating from college right now, you don't go into a profession like teaching, you follow the money and you go into professions where your work will be valued.

I think the real problem is that many NA neighborhood Elementary Schools do no have a very diverse teaching staff. More specifically Tuckahoe, Cardinal, Nottingham, Jamestown, Taylor....but others probably know better.

PP, you DO realize that you're exactly the type of parent who is the problem, don't you? That it is the people like you, always creating drama and lashing out, that make the teaching profession undesirable? If you, and people like you, would stay in your lane, perhaps more people would want to be teachers. As it is, I find you embarrassing with your virtue signaling.

Most of the diverse teachers at these schools left when Spanish Specials were canceled. APS could do so much better...many of these students will not have a diverse teacher until they get to middle school.

Again, this isn't soley an APS problem, there are teacher shortages, the vast majority of teachers are white. What do you want them to do, force diverse teachers to go to the North?

Just take the easy way out...nothing to see here. Not my problem....pass the buck. This is decades in the making and nobody really cares.