For all the parents complaining that the admissions process is rigged against their kids--

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is a great article on how to teach your child to have no competitive spirit and be happy with what meager rations they are given.

Kids this bright are quite aware of who is getting into the schools they and their friends have been targeting for 2 or 3 years and they can see the reverse discrimination and unfairness at play. They are not 2 year olds looking for moms reaction on this.

Maybe responsible parenting is acknowledging that while top schools are a stretch for everyone, it IS unfair that qualities outside of their control and baseless to achievement are getting prioritized over what should matter and thus impacting your child's results. It's not fair and there is nothing we can do.

But that they will still go to a good school and because they are brilliant they will make the best of it. The world will level out once they get past the insanity/bubble of college admissions because in the real world results matter more than checking a demographic box and brilliance and hard work will pay off, regardless of liberal agendas.

Companies focus on things that matter and so while this phase of life will illustrate to them the unfairness of racism of discrimination, the good news is that they will be past this BS in four years.

That is the article I would write.

OMG +1

This is almost the exact dinner table conversation we had with our Asian senior. There is nothing we can do to eliminate the systemic racism currently practiced against Asian students like him in the current admission cycle. He will continue to encounter discrimination and racism while he is at school; this is not fair but that's not an excuse to not try his best. But once he is out in the real world, the world will be fair again and he will be able to succeed unhindered. Dwelling on victim status or making excuses for himself because there is active discrimination against him is counter productive and helps no one. The best revenge is success.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a great article on how to teach your child to have no competitive spirit and be happy with what meager rations they are given.

Kids this bright are quite aware of who is getting into the schools they and their friends have been targeting for 2 or 3 years and they can see the reverse discrimination and unfairness at play. They are not 2 year olds looking for moms reaction on this.

Maybe responsible parenting is acknowledging that while top schools are a stretch for everyone, it IS unfair that qualities outside of their control and baseless to achievement are getting prioritized over what should matter and thus impacting your child's results. It's not fair and there is nothing we can do.

But that they will still go to a good school and because they are brilliant they will make the best of it. The world will level out once they get past the insanity/bubble of college admissions because in the real world results matter more than checking a demographic box and brilliance and hard work will pay off, regardless of liberal agendas.

Companies focus on things that matter and so while this phase of life will illustrate to them the unfairness of racism of discrimination, the good news is that they will be past this BS in four years.

That is the article I would write.

Holy entitled brat! Maybe they just picked up on these kids messed up superiority complexes and said no thanks.

That you get "entitled brat" out of the perspective that performance should be rewarded without regard to skin color, religion or socioeconomic status is exactly why we have a problem.

Performance is subjective. Your superstar is great but so are others. Your think the "performance" of your genius is superior and others have a different opinion.

Performance is only subjective to racists who think skin color is a factor in performance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a great article on how to teach your child to have no competitive spirit and be happy with what meager rations they are given.

Kids this bright are quite aware of who is getting into the schools they and their friends have been targeting for 2 or 3 years and they can see the reverse discrimination and unfairness at play. They are not 2 year olds looking for moms reaction on this.

Maybe responsible parenting is acknowledging that while top schools are a stretch for everyone, it IS unfair that qualities outside of their control and baseless to achievement are getting prioritized over what should matter and thus impacting your child's results. It's not fair and there is nothing we can do.

But that they will still go to a good school and because they are brilliant they will make the best of it. The world will level out once they get past the insanity/bubble of college admissions because in the real world results matter more than checking a demographic box and brilliance and hard work will pay off, regardless of liberal agendas.

Companies focus on things that matter and so while this phase of life will illustrate to them the unfairness of racism of discrimination, the good news is that they will be past this BS in four years.

That is the article I would write.

Holy entitled brat! Maybe they just picked up on these kids messed up superiority complexes and said no thanks.

No, there is no "maybe" here. The affirmative action folks are very clear about this. They just think there are too many Asians and that's something they want to change. If "superiority complex" was an issue, the California university systems wouldn't be so dominated by Asians.

Face it, you support racists practicing racist policies, because you are a racist at heart.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:.. in the real world results matter more than checking a demographic box and brilliance and hard work will pay off, regardless of liberal agendas.

Companies focus on things that matter and so while this phase of life will illustrate to them the unfairness of racism of discrimination, the good news is that they will be past this BS in four years.

I can’t believe anyone is truly this naive. How disingenuous.

[Anonymous]

Paraphrased but accurate and revealing statements made in this thread:

- My kid's "A"s are valid but other kids are not, grade inflation covid etc.

- My kid deserves to be admitted to colleges X more than the kids who were admitted

- Colleges don't know who they want, they are also incapable of telling one kid from the next

- There is a substantive difference in quality between kids who are admitted and kids who are not

Guys, we all love our kids, and any real or perceived slight against them hurts, and we want them to have everything they want... but these positions above are unfair.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is a great article on how to teach your child to have no competitive spirit and be happy with what meager rations they are given.

Kids this bright are quite aware of who is getting into the schools they and their friends have been targeting for 2 or 3 years and they can see the reverse discrimination and unfairness at play. They are not 2 year olds looking for moms reaction on this.

Maybe responsible parenting is acknowledging that while top schools are a stretch for everyone, it IS unfair that qualities outside of their control and baseless to achievement are getting prioritized over what should matter and thus impacting your child's results. It's not fair and there is nothing we can do.

But that they will still go to a good school and because they are brilliant they will make the best of it. The world will level out once they get past the insanity/bubble of college admissions because in the real world results matter more than checking a demographic box and brilliance and hard work will pay off, regardless of liberal agendas.

Companies focus on things that matter and so while this phase of life will illustrate to them the unfairness of racism of discrimination, the good news is that they will be past this BS in four years.

That is the article I would write.

Holy entitled brat! Maybe they just picked up on these kids messed up superiority complexes and said no thanks.

That you get "entitled brat" out of the perspective that performance should be rewarded without regard to skin color, religion or socioeconomic status is exactly why we have a problem.

Performance is subjective. Your superstar is great but so are others. Your think the "performance" of your genius is superior and others have a different opinion.

Performance is only subjective to racists who think skin color is a factor in performance.

What an ignorant statement. Maybe you student said something as ignorant on the application and got denied.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If your kid is white and has parents who graduated college, they are already unfathomably privileged. Of course, they don't realize that, because they have been privileged by it their entire lives.

True, and ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If your kid is white and has parents who graduated college, they are already unfathomably privileged. Of course, they don't realize that, because they have been privileged by it their entire lives.

The United States economic system is performance based. It provides opportunity to all members. Some will have to work harder than others and for many it is their struggles that make them stronger than their peers. I put myself though college due to divorced parents and an alcoholic father. I am now a 1%-er. My journey to this point was a lot harder than many of my peers but nothing in this life says things must be handed to you - THAT is entitlement, not being a hard working teen of now-wealthy parents. If you want a society where outcomes are not driven by effort, stamina and drive; where challenges are all expected to be equalized then there are plenty of socialist democracies that you can join (and I hope you do).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a great article on how to teach your child to have no competitive spirit and be happy with what meager rations they are given.

Kids this bright are quite aware of who is getting into the schools they and their friends have been targeting for 2 or 3 years and they can see the reverse discrimination and unfairness at play. They are not 2 year olds looking for moms reaction on this.

Maybe responsible parenting is acknowledging that while top schools are a stretch for everyone, it IS unfair that qualities outside of their control and baseless to achievement are getting prioritized over what should matter and thus impacting your child's results. It's not fair and there is nothing we can do.

But that they will still go to a good school and because they are brilliant they will make the best of it. The world will level out once they get past the insanity/bubble of college admissions because in the real world results matter more than checking a demographic box and brilliance and hard work will pay off, regardless of liberal agendas.

Companies focus on things that matter and so while this phase of life will illustrate to them the unfairness of racism of discrimination, the good news is that they will be past this BS in four years.

That is the article I would write.

Holy entitled brat! Maybe they just picked up on these kids messed up superiority complexes and said no thanks.

No, there is no "maybe" here. The affirmative action folks are very clear about this. They just think there are too many Asians and that's something they want to change. If "superiority complex" was an issue, the California university systems wouldn't be so dominated by Asians.

Face it, you support racists practicing racist policies, because you are a racist at heart.

Go on thinking that your kid was a shoe-in for Harvard and the only thing that kept her out was being asian. That will serve you so well.

I the mean time, you poor victimized kid better go out and get herself an education and carry on. Harvard is a good school but there are many many others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:.. in the real world results matter more than checking a demographic box and brilliance and hard work will pay off, regardless of liberal agendas.

Companies focus on things that matter and so while this phase of life will illustrate to them the unfairness of racism of discrimination, the good news is that they will be past this BS in four years.

I can’t believe anyone is truly this naive. How disingenuous.

It's largely true. Despite imperfections, the creation of value in the US by private parties is largely aligned with economic efficiencies and little else. People may privately care about white/black/yellow/brown, but they care far more about the color green when doing business or trading with others. Go attend an industry conference of some sort: no one gives a damn what race the buyer/sellers are. I see this, the prodigious GDP of the US proves it, and most importantly, my kids see me demonstrate this on a daily basis. Aside from affirmative action, people like you simply can't convince me and my kids that we are victims.

[Anonymous]

It' has been known that people cheat to get admission slots. It's often done by wealthy people "who know better" but do so anyways to maintain power / privilege. White people checking URM demographic boxes isn't a surprise.

I'd love to immediately check a "white" box when stopped by the police.
Wouldn't that be great.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a great article on how to teach your child to have no competitive spirit and be happy with what meager rations they are given.

Kids this bright are quite aware of who is getting into the schools they and their friends have been targeting for 2 or 3 years and they can see the reverse discrimination and unfairness at play. They are not 2 year olds looking for moms reaction on this.

Maybe responsible parenting is acknowledging that while top schools are a stretch for everyone, it IS unfair that qualities outside of their control and baseless to achievement are getting prioritized over what should matter and thus impacting your child's results. It's not fair and there is nothing we can do.

But that they will still go to a good school and because they are brilliant they will make the best of it. The world will level out once they get past the insanity/bubble of college admissions because in the real world results matter more than checking a demographic box and brilliance and hard work will pay off, regardless of liberal agendas.

Companies focus on things that matter and so while this phase of life will illustrate to them the unfairness of racism of discrimination, the good news is that they will be past this BS in four years.

That is the article I would write.

OMG +1

This is almost the exact dinner table conversation we had with our Asian senior. There is nothing we can do to eliminate the systemic racism currently practiced against Asian students like him in the current admission cycle. He will continue to encounter discrimination and racism while he is at school; this is not fair but that's not an excuse to not try his best. But once he is out in the real world, the world will be fair again and he will be able to succeed unhindered. Dwelling on victim status or making excuses for himself because there is active discrimination against him is counter productive and helps no one. The best revenge is success.

+ 1

While this admissions process has been hard for our white UMC DD, it has been even harder on her Asian friend.

[Anonymous]

The focus on what is "unfair" is so childish. The world is unfair. We all have unearned privileges and "unfair" disadvantages. Playing fields are not level, and there is no such thing as a "purely" meritocratic system, because some people start with a leg up.

Teach your kids to do their best, but also to recognize that the world is often arbitrary, and there is no point whining about it. Do your best; help others do their best; recognize that neither riches nor Ivy admissions is going to bring "happiness," and focus on what actually matters....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a great article on how to teach your child to have no competitive spirit and be happy with what meager rations they are given.

Kids this bright are quite aware of who is getting into the schools they and their friends have been targeting for 2 or 3 years and they can see the reverse discrimination and unfairness at play. They are not 2 year olds looking for moms reaction on this.

Maybe responsible parenting is acknowledging that while top schools are a stretch for everyone, it IS unfair that qualities outside of their control and baseless to achievement are getting prioritized over what should matter and thus impacting your child's results. It's not fair and there is nothing we can do.

But that they will still go to a good school and because they are brilliant they will make the best of it. The world will level out once they get past the insanity/bubble of college admissions because in the real world results matter more than checking a demographic box and brilliance and hard work will pay off, regardless of liberal agendas.

Companies focus on things that matter and so while this phase of life will illustrate to them the unfairness of racism of discrimination, the good news is that they will be past this BS in four years.

That is the article I would write.

Holy entitled brat! Maybe they just picked up on these kids messed up superiority complexes and said no thanks.

No, there is no "maybe" here. The affirmative action folks are very clear about this. They just think there are too many Asians and that's something they want to change. If "superiority complex" was an issue, the California university systems wouldn't be so dominated by Asians.

Face it, you support racists practicing racist policies, because you are a racist at heart.

Go on thinking that your kid was a shoe-in for Harvard and the only thing that kept her out was being asian. That will serve you so well.

I the mean time, you poor victimized kid better go out and get herself an education and carry on. Harvard is a good school but there are many many others.

Strawman, no one claimed that. To the contrary, I very clearly argued that there is no superiority complex.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a great article on how to teach your child to have no competitive spirit and be happy with what meager rations they are given.

Kids this bright are quite aware of who is getting into the schools they and their friends have been targeting for 2 or 3 years and they can see the reverse discrimination and unfairness at play. They are not 2 year olds looking for moms reaction on this.

Maybe responsible parenting is acknowledging that while top schools are a stretch for everyone, it IS unfair that qualities outside of their control and baseless to achievement are getting prioritized over what should matter and thus impacting your child's results. It's not fair and there is nothing we can do.

But that they will still go to a good school and because they are brilliant they will make the best of it. The world will level out once they get past the insanity/bubble of college admissions because in the real world results matter more than checking a demographic box and brilliance and hard work will pay off, regardless of liberal agendas.

Companies focus on things that matter and so while this phase of life will illustrate to them the unfairness of racism of discrimination, the good news is that they will be past this BS in four years.

That is the article I would write.

OMG +1

This is almost the exact dinner table conversation we had with our Asian senior. There is nothing we can do to eliminate the systemic racism currently practiced against Asian students like him in the current admission cycle. He will continue to encounter discrimination and racism while he is at school; this is not fair but that's not an excuse to not try his best. But once he is out in the real world, the world will be fair again and he will be able to succeed unhindered. Dwelling on victim status or making excuses for himself because there is active discrimination against him is counter productive and helps no one. The best revenge is success.

+ 1

While this admissions process has been hard for our white UMC DD, it has been even harder on her Asian friend.

Awwwwww.

It's hard on every kid.