BIPOC is a term that excludes Asian immigrants or American born Asian-Americans.

[Anonymous]

Thanks. Just as I suspected: Asians are people of color.

Someone in the following thread tried to claim otherwise:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/45/1041276.page

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Asians and Asian Americans are people of color, POC.

In order to distinguish and to focus on issues specifically relating to Black and Indigenous people, the term BIPOC was created.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/BIPOC

"POC is widely used as an umbrella term for all people of color, but now a different acronym is suddenly gaining traction on the internet—BIPOC, which stands for Black, Indigenous, People of Color. People are using the term to acknowledge that not all people of color face equal levels of injustice. They say BIPOC is significant in recognizing that Black and Indigenous people are severely impacted by systemic racial injustices."
— Chevaz Clarke

Hello, what about the internment of Japanese AMERICANS during WWII? This quote is oversimplifying things.

Right, but compare that to 400 years of slavery or near-total genocide. It's not that there was/is no injustice against Asians (or Latinos or middle Eastern ppl), it's that the injustices perpetrated on Black and Indigenous ppl are worse

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Asians and Asian Americans are people of color, POC.

In order to distinguish and to focus on issues specifically relating to Black and Indigenous people, the term BIPOC was created.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/BIPOC

"POC is widely used as an umbrella term for all people of color, but now a different acronym is suddenly gaining traction on the internet—BIPOC, which stands for Black, Indigenous, People of Color. People are using the term to acknowledge that not all people of color face equal levels of injustice. They say BIPOC is significant in recognizing that Black and Indigenous people are severely impacted by systemic racial injustices."
— Chevaz Clarke

Hello, what about the internment of Japanese AMERICANS during WWII? This quote is oversimplifying things.

Right, but compare that to 400 years of slavery or near-total genocide. It's not that there was/is no injustice against Asians (or Latinos or middle Eastern ppl), it's that the injustices perpetrated on Black and Indigenous ppl are worse

You do realize that most Latinos are a mix of African and/or Indigenous people? Some of course are white/European.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The point of BIPOC (in my understanding) is to put extra emphasis on Black/Indigenous because of the extreme historical injustices against them. But the POC part still covers all other non-whites i.e. Asians, Latinx, Middle Easterners.

Personally I think it's confusing and kind of silly but it's the term du jour.

I'm not sure Middle Eastern people are widely considered POC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The point of BIPOC (in my understanding) is to put extra emphasis on Black/Indigenous because of the extreme historical injustices against them. But the POC part still covers all other non-whites i.e. Asians, Latinx, Middle Easterners.

Personally I think it's confusing and kind of silly but it's the term du jour.

That is partly incorrect.

The I in BIPOC was separated to emphasize that, while many “indigenous” peoples in the United States are in fact the victims of white oppression and systemic white racism, they may nonetheless visibly appear as racially “white,” largely as a result of interracial relationships (voluntary and otherwise).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The point of BIPOC (in my understanding) is to put extra emphasis on Black/Indigenous because of the extreme historical injustices against them. But the POC part still covers all other non-whites i.e. Asians, Latinx, Middle Easterners.

Personally I think it's confusing and kind of silly but it's the term du jour.

I'm not sure Middle Eastern people are widely considered POC.

In my friend circle, my ME friends do identify as POC. Again, I don’t know the world but as far as the people I know they don’t classify themselves as White. Who am I to correct anyone for deciding how they identify as another POC myself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The point of BIPOC (in my understanding) is to put extra emphasis on Black/Indigenous because of the extreme historical injustices against them. But the POC part still covers all other non-whites i.e. Asians, Latinx, Middle Easterners.

Personally I think it's confusing and kind of silly but it's the term du jour.

I'm not sure Middle Eastern people are widely considered POC.

In my friend circle, my ME friends do identify as POC. Again, I don’t know the world but as far as the people I know they don’t classify themselves as White. Who am I to correct anyone for deciding how they identify as another POC myself.

Why in the hell would anyone WANT to identify as a white, if they did not have to?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Asians and Asian Americans are people of color, POC.

In order to distinguish and to focus on issues specifically relating to Black and Indigenous people, the term BIPOC was created.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/BIPOC

"POC is widely used as an umbrella term for all people of color, but now a different acronym is suddenly gaining traction on the internet—BIPOC, which stands for Black, Indigenous, People of Color. People are using the term to acknowledge that not all people of color face equal levels of injustice. They say BIPOC is significant in recognizing that Black and Indigenous people are severely impacted by systemic racial injustices."
— Chevaz Clarke

Hello, what about the internment of Japanese AMERICANS during WWII? This quote is oversimplifying things.

Right, but compare that to 400 years of slavery or near-total genocide. It's not that there was/is no injustice against Asians (or Latinos or middle Eastern ppl), it's that the injustices perpetrated on Black and Indigenous ppl are worse

Tell that to the people of Taiwan or the Untouchable caste in India. Just because you don't see Asian racism does not mean that it does not exist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Asians and Asian Americans are people of color, POC.

In order to distinguish and to focus on issues specifically relating to Black and Indigenous people, the term BIPOC was created.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/BIPOC

"POC is widely used as an umbrella term for all people of color, but now a different acronym is suddenly gaining traction on the internet—BIPOC, which stands for Black, Indigenous, People of Color. People are using the term to acknowledge that not all people of color face equal levels of injustice. They say BIPOC is significant in recognizing that Black and Indigenous people are severely impacted by systemic racial injustices."
— Chevaz Clarke

I'm confused. You stated Asians are POCs.

BIPOC includes 3 groups:
Black
Indigenous
People of Color

so... aren't Asian's BIPOCs because they are POCs?

You are missing the intersectional aspect. It's not a union, it's an intersection.

[Anonymous]

Wrt to middle eastern people (and some from Latin America), regardless of how you may perceive yourself, how the broader society sees you matters in this context. A lot of my middle eastern friends "pass" as white. Same with Jewish friends.

I do not pass. I have been asked if I speak English, to go back to my country (funny, because I was born here), and looked at suspiciously when walking in a neighborhood not my own. I am dark skinned and I do not pass.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Asians and Asian Americans are people of color, POC.

In order to distinguish and to focus on issues specifically relating to Black and Indigenous people, the term BIPOC was created.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/BIPOC

"POC is widely used as an umbrella term for all people of color, but now a different acronym is suddenly gaining traction on the internet—BIPOC, which stands for Black, Indigenous, People of Color. People are using the term to acknowledge that not all people of color face equal levels of injustice. They say BIPOC is significant in recognizing that Black and Indigenous people are severely impacted by systemic racial injustices."
— Chevaz Clarke

Hello, what about the internment of Japanese AMERICANS during WWII? This quote is oversimplifying things.

Right, but compare that to 400 years of slavery or near-total genocide. It's not that there was/is no injustice against Asians (or Latinos or middle Eastern ppl), it's that the injustices perpetrated on Black and Indigenous ppl are worse

I'd like to meet the 400-year-old people who suffered all of that.

Many people other than "BIPOCS" have experienced unimaginable hardship and injustice both here and abroad (looking at you Vietnamese "boat people", Holocaust survivors, Rwanda genocide survivors, various refugees of civil war and starvation, etc...)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Asians and Asian Americans are people of color, POC.

In order to distinguish and to focus on issues specifically relating to Black and Indigenous people, the term BIPOC was created.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/BIPOC

"POC is widely used as an umbrella term for all people of color, but now a different acronym is suddenly gaining traction on the internet—BIPOC, which stands for Black, Indigenous, People of Color. People are using the term to acknowledge that not all people of color face equal levels of injustice. They say BIPOC is significant in recognizing that Black and Indigenous people are severely impacted by systemic racial injustices."
— Chevaz Clarke

I'm confused. You stated Asians are POCs.

BIPOC includes 3 groups:
Black
Indigenous
People of Color

so... aren't Asian's BIPOCs because they are POCs?

You are missing the intersectional aspect. It's not a union, it's an intersection.

NP. The intersectionality is what underlies it all.

Intersectionality is the base. Everything rests in it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is that true? Just read that posted elsewhere on DCUM.

Asians are not “people of color?”

Not sure that is correct. Also, what agency or organization controls who is allowed to be a “ person of color,“ and who is excluded?

I hate the phrase "BIPOC." No matter how many times I see it, I always think "bisexual people of color." I have to double back to fix my assumptions. It's a dumb acronym.

That sounds like a you problem and not a problem with the term.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Asians and Asian Americans are people of color, POC.

In order to distinguish and to focus on issues specifically relating to Black and Indigenous people, the term BIPOC was created.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/BIPOC

"POC is widely used as an umbrella term for all people of color, but now a different acronym is suddenly gaining traction on the internet—BIPOC, which stands for Black, Indigenous, People of Color. People are using the term to acknowledge that not all people of color face equal levels of injustice. They say BIPOC is significant in recognizing that Black and Indigenous people are severely impacted by systemic racial injustices."
— Chevaz Clarke

Hello, what about the internment of Japanese AMERICANS during WWII? This quote is oversimplifying things.

Right, but compare that to 400 years of slavery or near-total genocide. It's not that there was/is no injustice against Asians (or Latinos or middle Eastern ppl), it's that the injustices perpetrated on Black and Indigenous ppl are worse

I'd like to meet the 400-year-old people who suffered all of that.

Many people other than "BIPOCS" have experienced unimaginable hardship and injustice both here and abroad (looking at you Vietnamese "boat people", Holocaust survivors, Rwanda genocide survivors, various refugees of civil war and starvation, etc...)

They didn't suffer in United States. Just like in India where there's a caste system I know that it exists but I don't know how the people are separated. I can read about it I can learn about it I can assume lots of things from living there but as a white person if I go into India I'm assumed under some other type of classification.

African Americans and indigenous people in this country specifically the US have been systematically and categorically oppressed by the laws and through social and cultural means. You do not experience the same type of racism that a black or indigenous person has to go up against. The bias towards black and indigenous people is very different than the bias towards Asians or even Jewish or Hispanic, the latter two being ethnicities.

There is literally no benefit to being black or indigenous in this country. None whatsoever.

They are absolute benefits to the bias against Asians.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Asians and Asian Americans are people of color, POC.

In order to distinguish and to focus on issues specifically relating to Black and Indigenous people, the term BIPOC was created.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/BIPOC

"POC is widely used as an umbrella term for all people of color, but now a different acronym is suddenly gaining traction on the internet—BIPOC, which stands for Black, Indigenous, People of Color. People are using the term to acknowledge that not all people of color face equal levels of injustice. They say BIPOC is significant in recognizing that Black and Indigenous people are severely impacted by systemic racial injustices."
— Chevaz Clarke

Hello, what about the internment of Japanese AMERICANS during WWII? This quote is oversimplifying things.

Right, but compare that to 400 years of slavery or near-total genocide. It's not that there was/is no injustice against Asians (or Latinos or middle Eastern ppl), it's that the injustices perpetrated on Black and Indigenous ppl are worse

I'd like to meet the 400-year-old people who suffered all of that.

Many people other than "BIPOCS" have experienced unimaginable hardship and injustice both here and abroad (looking at you Vietnamese "boat people", Holocaust survivors, Rwanda genocide survivors, various refugees of civil war and starvation, etc...)

They didn't suffer in United States. Just like in India where there's a caste system I know that it exists but I don't know how the people are separated. I can read about it I can learn about it I can assume lots of things from living there but as a white person if I go into India I'm assumed under some other type of classification.

African Americans and indigenous people in this country specifically the US have been systematically and categorically oppressed by the laws and through social and cultural means. You do not experience the same type of racism that a black or indigenous person has to go up against. The bias towards black and indigenous people is very different than the bias towards Asians or even Jewish or Hispanic, the latter two being ethnicities.

There is literally no benefit to being black or indigenous in this country. None whatsoever.

They are absolute benefits to the bias against Asians.

You can’t be serious.