UCLA or Berkeley for out of state kid

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not worth the price.

Why? At 45k it is cheaper than any of t20-t30 private school

For oos it's closer to 80k. Impacted majors and big classes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not worth the price.

Why? At 45k it is cheaper than any of t20-t30 private school

For oos it's closer to 80k. Impacted majors and big classes.

45 k is oos tuition at UCs, 10 to 15k less than private schools.

[Anonymous]

I made this decision. Cal all the way. Brand recognition anywhere in the country is much better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I made this decision. Cal all the way. Brand recognition anywhere in the country is much better.

Better “brand recognition” than UCLA? No. They’re both equal in that department. UCLA is probably more recognizable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Expensive for OOS, just like Michigan. I don’t know if it’s worth paying all that over in-state UVA or UMD, but I can definitely see the allure for students if cost isn’t an issue.

Nice try. UMD isn't in the same league as UVA or Michigan -- or UCLA or Berkeley.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not worth the price.

Why? At 45k it is cheaper than any of t20-t30 private school

For oos it's closer to 80k. Impacted majors and big classes.

A*1. Also now only 10 percent are OOS so very difficult to get into

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not worth the price.

Why? At 45k it is cheaper than any of t20-t30 private school

For oos it's closer to 80k. Impacted majors and big classes.

A*1. Also now only 10 percent are OOS so very difficult to get into

You can’t just make up numbers like 10%. It’s school-specific and will decrease each year. So which school and which year determines the OOS cap. Critical reasoning skills are important.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not worth the price.

Why? At 45k it is cheaper than any of t20-t30 private school

For oos it's closer to 80k. Impacted majors and big classes.

See this thread for reports from parents if current/recent students: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1030067.page

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Expensive for OOS, just like Michigan. I don’t know if it’s worth paying all that over in-state UVA or UMD, but I can definitely see the allure for students if cost isn’t an issue.

Nice try. UMD isn't in the same league as UVA or Michigan -- or UCLA or Berkeley.

Nice try. UVA isn’t in the same league at Berkeley either. Actually Cal is in a league of their own here , followed by Michigan and UCLA, then maybe UVA or UNC.

[Anonymous]

At UCLA look up whether your anticipated major is impacted. Many, many kids can't get into the classes they need to graduate in 4 years. In many majors kids are taking 5-6 years to get a bachelor's degree.

I would never send my kid to UCLA. It's highly racially and economically segregated and, while sports are well funded, academics are terribly underfunded.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I made this decision. Cal all the way. Brand recognition anywhere in the country is much better.

Better “brand recognition” than UCLA? No. They’re both equal in that department. UCLA is probably more recognizable.

Possibly in terms of sports or a very “90210” way. But academically? No.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I made this decision. Cal all the way. Brand recognition anywhere in the country is much better.

Better “brand recognition” than UCLA? No. They’re both equal in that department. UCLA is probably more recognizable.

By those in the know, absolutely Berkeley. Worldwide, Cal is recognized as the preeminent public university in this country. Only Harvard and Stanford can match its overall academic excellence.

[Anonymous]

while i am partial to berkeley, i understand that it is a real grind. a real grind. if your dc is interested in STEM, would def not suggest Berkeley.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Expensive for OOS, just like Michigan. I don’t know if it’s worth paying all that over in-state UVA or UMD, but I can definitely see the allure for students if cost isn’t an issue.

Nice try. UMD isn't in the same league as UVA or Michigan -- or UCLA or Berkeley.

Nice try. UVA isn’t in the same league at Berkeley either. Actually Cal is in a league of their own here , followed by Michigan and UCLA, then maybe UVA or UNC.

Nice try. Where did I say UVA was in the same league as Berkeley? All I said was that UMD is in the same league as any of these schools. And it isn't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not worth the price.

Why? At 45k it is cheaper than any of t20-t30 private school

For oos it's closer to 80k. Impacted majors and big classes.

45 k is oos tuition at UCs, 10 to 15k less than private schools.

For those who want to see for themselves, https://admission.ucla.edu/tuition-aid/tuition-fees

66k is the current estimated total cost of attendance. Tuition is 45k but room and board approach 17k, which is a little more than many other places (probably due to location).

(As an aside, not a critical point, their student insurance at 2.7k is a little on the steep side compared to some others.)