UCLA or Berkeley for out of state kid

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Anonymous wrote:At UCLA look up whether your anticipated major is impacted.

Many, many kids can't get into the classes they need to graduate in 4 years. In many majors kids are taking 5-6 years to get a bachelor's degree.

I would never send my kid to UCLA. It's highly racially and economically segregated and, while sports are well funded, academics are terribly underfunded.

Posted this above--current/recent parents say their students have not had this problem: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1030067.page

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:At UCLA look up whether your anticipated major is impacted.

Many, many kids can't get into the classes they need to graduate in 4 years. In many majors kids are taking 5-6 years to get a bachelor's degree.

I would never send my kid to UCLA. It's highly racially and economically segregated and, while sports are well funded, academics are terribly underfunded.

Posted this above--current/recent parents say their students have not had this problem: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1030067.page

It really depends on the major. The UCLA website still shows that most life science majors and premed courses are impacted, as well as many engineering majors. This means that students may take the course as a sophomore but not be able to register for the corresponding lab until their 5th year.

My experience as a teaching assistant at UCLA was that all of the lab courses were also terribly underfunded. Often supplies would run out by Friday so students at the end of the week wouldn't be able to do the experiment. The worst part was that no one cared. The professors and administrators just shrugged.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:At UCLA look up whether your anticipated major is impacted.

Many, many kids can't get into the classes they need to graduate in 4 years. In many majors kids are taking 5-6 years to get a bachelor's degree.

I would never send my kid to UCLA. It's highly racially and economically segregated and, while sports are well funded, academics are terribly underfunded.

Posted this above--current/recent parents say their students have not had this problem: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1030067.page

It really depends on the major. The UCLA website still shows that most life science majors and premed courses are impacted, as well as many engineering majors. This means that students may take the course as a sophomore but not be able to register for the corresponding lab until their 5th year.

My experience as a teaching assistant at UCLA was that all of the lab courses were also terribly underfunded. Often supplies would run out by Friday so students at the end of the week wouldn't be able to do the experiment. The worst part was that no one cared. The professors and administrators just shrugged.

Current UCLA impacted courses: https://sa.ucla.edu/ro/Public/SOC/Search/ImpactedCoursesMasterList

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At UCLA look up whether your anticipated major is impacted. Many, many kids can't get into the classes they need to graduate in 4 years. In many majors kids are taking 5-6 years to get a bachelor's degree.

I would never send my kid to UCLA. It's highly racially and economically segregated and, while sports are well funded, academics are terribly underfunded.

UCLA grad here. In state tuition is so low, it is still a great deal even if you have to go 5 years, which is still the minority. Rushing into the workforce isn’t that awesome anyway is it?
Yes, I think there is a lot of anti-semitism, but less then many other places (eg yale)
You do have to be able to fend for yourself though, it’s a big place and no one holds your hand.

However, the weather, fun places and things to do, beautiful campus...spectacular. The most applied to school in the world for a reason.

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Berkeley is surrounded by crappy area. Kids there are cutthroat, esp in engineering and pre-med. Not a happy place.

UCLA maybe a little less academic prestige, but everyone is so happy and having so much fun that no one cares.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:At UCLA look up whether your anticipated major is impacted. Many, many kids can't get into the classes they need to graduate in 4 years. In many majors kids are taking 5-6 years to get a bachelor's degree.

I would never send my kid to UCLA. It's highly racially and economically segregated and, while sports are well funded, academics are terribly underfunded.

UCLA grad here. In state tuition is so low, it is still a great deal even if you have to go 5 years, which is still the minority. Rushing into the workforce isn’t that awesome anyway is it?
Yes, I think there is a lot of anti-semitism, but less then many other places (eg yale)
You do have to be able to fend for yourself though, it’s a big place and no one holds your hand.

However, the weather, fun places and things to do, beautiful campus...spectacular. The most applied to school in the world for a reason.

“ UCLA maybe a little less academic prestige, but everyone is so happy and having so much fun that no one cares.”

Unless you’re Jewish I suppose……

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Anonymous wrote:Expensive for OOS, just like Michigan. I don’t know if it’s worth paying all that over in-state UVA or UMD, but I can definitely see the allure for students if cost isn’t an issue.

Nice try. UMD isn't in the same league as UVA or Michigan -- or UCLA or Berkeley.

Nice try. UVA isn’t in the same league at Berkeley either. Actually Cal is in a league of their own here , followed by Michigan and UCLA, then maybe UVA or UNC.

Nice try. Where did I say UVA was in the same league as Berkeley? All I said was that UMD is in the same league as any of these schools. And it isn't.

I agree that UVA is not in same league as Cal, UCLA, or Michigan. It is a tier up from UMD however.

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Anonymous wrote:At UCLA look up whether your anticipated major is impacted. Many, many kids can't get into the classes they need to graduate in 4 years. In many majors kids are taking 5-6 years to get a bachelor's degree.

I would never send my kid to UCLA. It's highly racially and economically segregated and, while sports are well funded, academics are terribly underfunded.

UCLA grad here. In state tuition is so low, it is still a great deal even if you have to go 5 years, which is still the minority. Rushing into the workforce isn’t that awesome anyway is it?
Yes, I think there is a lot of anti-semitism, but less then many other places (eg yale)
You do have to be able to fend for yourself though, it’s a big place and no one holds your hand.

However, the weather, fun places and things to do, beautiful campus...spectacular. The most applied to school in the world for a reason.

“ UCLA maybe a little less academic prestige, but everyone is so happy and having so much fun that no one cares.”

Unless you’re Jewish I suppose……

Or Asian or black or poor. Rich and white is fine.

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Anonymous wrote:At UCLA look up whether your anticipated major is impacted. Many, many kids can't get into the classes they need to graduate in 4 years. In many majors kids are taking 5-6 years to get a bachelor's degree.

I would never send my kid to UCLA. It's highly racially and economically segregated and, while sports are well funded, academics are terribly underfunded.

UCLA grad here. In state tuition is so low, it is still a great deal even if you have to go 5 years, which is still the minority. Rushing into the workforce isn’t that awesome anyway is it?
Yes, I think there is a lot of anti-semitism, but less then many other places (eg yale)
You do have to be able to fend for yourself though, it’s a big place and no one holds your hand.

However, the weather, fun places and things to do, beautiful campus...spectacular. The most applied to school in the world for a reason.

“ UCLA maybe a little less academic prestige, but everyone is so happy and having so much fun that no one cares.”

Unless you’re Jewish I suppose……

Or Asian or black or poor. Rich and white is fine.

UCLA is very very diverse. So this statement is categorically untrue.

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Anonymous wrote:At UCLA look up whether your anticipated major is impacted. Many, many kids can't get into the classes they need to graduate in 4 years. In many majors kids are taking 5-6 years to get a bachelor's degree.

I would never send my kid to UCLA. It's highly racially and economically segregated and, while sports are well funded, academics are terribly underfunded.

UCLA grad here. In state tuition is so low, it is still a great deal even if you have to go 5 years, which is still the minority. Rushing into the workforce isn’t that awesome anyway is it?
Yes, I think there is a lot of anti-semitism, but less then many other places (eg yale)
You do have to be able to fend for yourself though, it’s a big place and no one holds your hand.

However, the weather, fun places and things to do, beautiful campus...spectacular. The most applied to school in the world for a reason.

“ UCLA maybe a little less academic prestige, but everyone is so happy and having so much fun that no one cares.”

Unless you’re Jewish I suppose……

Or Asian or black or poor. Rich and white is fine.

UCLA is very very diverse. So this statement is categorically untrue.

But the groups don't mix. That's the issue. Every group keeps to themselves.

[Anonymous]

UCLA for liberal arts - no question. It’s a great school in a near perfect area of Southern California with perfect weather. It’s also a real college experience with dorms, Greek life, sports, spirit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Berkeley is surrounded by crappy area. Kids there are cutthroat, esp in engineering and pre-med. Not a happy place.

UCLA maybe a little less academic prestige, but everyone is so happy and having so much fun that no one cares.

I don't know what you mean re: the area around Berkeley. Berkeley is weird, sure, but definitely not surrounded by crappy area.

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Anonymous wrote:Berkeley is surrounded by crappy area. Kids there are cutthroat, esp in engineering and pre-med. Not a happy place.

UCLA maybe a little less academic prestige, but everyone is so happy and having so much fun that no one cares.

I don't know what you mean re: the area around Berkeley. Berkeley is weird, sure, but definitely not surrounded by crappy area.

There are bad parts of Berkeley, but the area right around campus is generally pretty good and the north side is quite nice.

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Anonymous wrote:At UCLA look up whether your anticipated major is impacted.

Many, many kids can't get into the classes they need to graduate in 4 years. In many majors kids are taking 5-6 years to get a bachelor's degree.

I would never send my kid to UCLA. It's highly racially and economically segregated and, while sports are well funded, academics are terribly underfunded.

Posted this above--current/recent parents say their students have not had this problem: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1030067.page

It really depends on the major. The UCLA website still shows that most life science majors and premed courses are impacted, as well as many engineering majors. This means that students may take the course as a sophomore but not be able to register for the corresponding lab until their 5th year.

My experience as a teaching assistant at UCLA was that all of the lab courses were also terribly underfunded. Often supplies would run out by Friday so students at the end of the week wouldn't be able to do the experiment. The worst part was that no one cared. The professors and administrators just shrugged.

Current UCLA impacted courses: https://sa.ucla.edu/ro/Public/SOC/Search/ImpactedCoursesMasterList

[Anonymous]

Definitely Cal.