POLL: Do you feel pressure to be religious?

[Anonymous]

So, apart from the Northern European who was forced by the DC government to go to church (huh?), atheist victimhood doesn’t seem to be a thing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, apart from the Northern European who was forced by the DC government to go to church (huh?), atheist victimhood doesn’t seem to be a thing?

“Victimhood”?

Is that coming from your lens of persecution? Or oppressor?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, apart from the Northern European who was forced by the DC government to go to church (huh?), atheist victimhood doesn’t seem to be a thing?

I wonder if that was a recovery program or other court-ordered services that were housed in a church.

[Anonymous]

1) Have you ever omitted (or even lied) about your true religious beliefs to make a social situation easier? Yes, don't rise to debate issue with those who believe differently.

2) Has anyone ever insisted that you believe in a certain god or religious figure? No

3) Has anyone ever made you go to a religious service? Not since teen years

4) Has anyone ever made you participate in a religious activity? Not since teen years

5) Do you ever feel like an outsider because of your religious beliefs? No, but I am generally surrounded by people with the same religious belief.

I do feel pressure to be religious but it comes internally. It is also a protective response to what I see externally. I want DC to be grounded by our religion. I feel it is a means of pushing back against a mainstream culture that I don’t like.

[Anonymous]

1) Have you ever omitted (or even lied) about your true religious beliefs to make a social situation easier? Yes. For a while in middle school I didn't really know which denomination my family was and mistakenly told people I was Catholic (we were Lutheran). In reality, I was agnostic.

2) Has anyone ever insisted that you believe in a certain god or religious figure? I had a friend in high school who was very into her evangelical church and always trying to get other people to go with her to their teen services. They definitely had the goal of getting other kids to be Christian, but tried to pass it off like their teen service was just a party or a concert that just happened to have Christian Rock performers and a pastor.

3) Has anyone ever made you go to a religious service? My mom made us go for a while when I was little. But then she got tired of me and my siblings and my dad complaining about having to go, and she gave up.

4) Has anyone ever made you participate in a religious activity? No.

5) Do you ever feel like an outsider because of your religious beliefs? When I lived in heavily Christian areas in the deep south, sometimes yes. Up north, not very often.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:1) Have you ever omitted (or even lied) about your true religious beliefs to make a social situation easier? Yes. For a while in middle school I didn't really know which denomination my family was and mistakenly told people I was Catholic (we were Lutheran). In reality, I was agnostic.

2) Has anyone ever insisted that you believe in a certain god or religious figure? I had a friend in high school who was very into her evangelical church and always trying to get other people to go with her to their teen services. They definitely had the goal of getting other kids to be Christian, but tried to pass it off like their teen service was just a party or a concert that just happened to have Christian Rock performers and a pastor.

3) Has anyone ever made you go to a religious service? My mom made us go for a while when I was little. But then she got tired of me and my siblings and my dad complaining about having to go, and she gave up.

4) Has anyone ever made you participate in a religious activity? No.

5) Do you ever feel like an outsider because of your religious beliefs? When I lived in heavily Christian areas in the deep south, sometimes yes. Up north, not very often.

1) Why do you lie about being agnostic?
2) Did you go to her church? How did she insist you believe in God by extending an invitation to her church? Asking you to attend a church youth service is NOT insistence that you believe in God. Having a band at the service is forbidden? Why is that detail so ominous? If your friend said “come to my church friend, we will have a good time, etc,” she was not hiding the location of the event to lie to you.
3) Your mom had a right to take you to church.
4)
5)How did the people I’m the south make you feel like an outsider?

[Anonymous]

1) Have you ever omitted (or even lied) about your true religious beliefs to make a social situation easier? Maybe. I'm an open minded agnostic with an atheist husband. My mom's family is Catholic. I probably demure on religious questions so as to not offend anyone.

2) Has anyone ever insisted that you believe in a certain god or religious figure? no

3) Has anyone ever made you go to a religious service? Sure. My parents on major holidays when I was a kid. Not sure that counts.

4) Has anyone ever made you participate in a religious activity? No? See above? I mean, I've been invited to bris and religious funerals and passover dinner. And I go happily.

5) Do you ever feel like an outsider because of your religious beliefs? Lol not at all. But as a white secular agnostic with Catholic heritage, I'm basically in the dominant group in the US.

[Anonymous]

Actually, I feel like I hold my religious belief privately bc no one else seems religious. I don’t even know many that go to church.

[Anonymous]

3) Your mom had a right to take you to church.

Sure. But it wasn’t PP’s choice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

3) Your mom had a right to take you to church.

Sure. But it wasn’t PP’s choice.

Parents have a right and a responsibility to raise their kids as they see fit. Are you going to tell parents they can’t take their kids to church? Because if so, you do not have a right to do that, and parents do have the right to take their kids to church. I don’t see a parent raising their child in their family church tradition as “pushing their child into religion.” The child has every right once they leave home to reject religion.

Pp didn’t like to be invited to church functions, but also felt “excluded” or treated differently by southern church going people in her community. Basically the church people can’t win. If they leave pp alone- they are treating her differently. If they invite her to their church, they are “insisting she worship God.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

3) Your mom had a right to take you to church.

Sure. But it wasn’t PP’s choice.

Parents have a right and a responsibility to raise their kids as they see fit. Are you going to tell parents they can’t take their kids to church? Because if so, you do not have a right to do that, and parents do have the right to take their kids to church. I don’t see a parent raising their child in their family church tradition as “pushing their child into religion.” The child has every right once they leave home to reject religion.

Pp didn’t like to be invited to church functions, but also felt “excluded” or treated differently by southern church going people in her community. Basically the church people can’t win. If they leave pp alone- they are treating her differently. If they invite her to their church, they are “insisting she worship God.”

You are certainly free to raise your kids however you want. No one said otherwise.

But it is, by definition, “pushing them into religion” if you aren’t giving them an option.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1) Have you ever omitted (or even lied) about your true religious beliefs to make a social situation easier? Yes. For a while in middle school I didn't really know which denomination my family was and mistakenly told people I was Catholic (we were Lutheran). In reality, I was agnostic.

2) Has anyone ever insisted that you believe in a certain god or religious figure? I had a friend in high school who was very into her evangelical church and always trying to get other people to go with her to their teen services. They definitely had the goal of getting other kids to be Christian, but tried to pass it off like their teen service was just a party or a concert that just happened to have Christian Rock performers and a pastor.

3) Has anyone ever made you go to a religious service? My mom made us go for a while when I was little. But then she got tired of me and my siblings and my dad complaining about having to go, and she gave up.

4) Has anyone ever made you participate in a religious activity? No.

5) Do you ever feel like an outsider because of your religious beliefs? When I lived in heavily Christian areas in the deep south, sometimes yes. Up north, not very often.

1) Why do you lie about being agnostic?
2) Did you go to her church? How did she insist you believe in God by extending an invitation to her church? Asking you to attend a church youth service is NOT insistence that you believe in God. Having a band at the service is forbidden? Why is that detail so ominous? If your friend said “come to my church friend, we will have a good time, etc,” she was not hiding the location of the event to lie to you.
3) Your mom had a right to take you to church.
4)
5)How did the people I’m the south make you feel like an outsider?

1) I wasn't (intentionally) lying about being agnostic; I just didn't have the words to define myself as such. My family belonged to a church, hence I had a religion. Just not one I believed.
2) I think you're getting a little defensive about this. Growing up mainstream protestant (and not particularly invested in the fact that there were different denominations), I had no concept of how my friend's evangelical church would be so drastically different from my own church. Her description of a party at her church was about how it's a concert for teens and the teen pastor was so cool. Was I naive? Yes, definitely. But I didn't expect a concert to turn into a sermon about converting your friends to evangelicalism and that part struck me as a bait and switch.
3) Of course she had the right to take me to church. But the question was about being forced to go and if I'd had a choice, I wouldn't have gone.
4) No snarky comment?
5) People in the south were incredibly nice and welcoming and interested in helping me find "a church home" which was lovely. But not being religious myself and thus not having or looking for a church home, made me feel like an outsider. It was about being a minority agnostic in a culture where the majority are religious, in contrast to the north, where people don't talk about religion as openly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1) Have you ever omitted (or even lied) about your true religious beliefs to make a social situation easier? Yes. For a while in middle school I didn't really know which denomination my family was and mistakenly told people I was Catholic (we were Lutheran). In reality, I was agnostic.

2) Has anyone ever insisted that you believe in a certain god or religious figure? I had a friend in high school who was very into her evangelical church and always trying to get other people to go with her to their teen services. They definitely had the goal of getting other kids to be Christian, but tried to pass it off like their teen service was just a party or a concert that just happened to have Christian Rock performers and a pastor.

3) Has anyone ever made you go to a religious service? My mom made us go for a while when I was little. But then she got tired of me and my siblings and my dad complaining about having to go, and she gave up.

4) Has anyone ever made you participate in a religious activity? No.

5) Do you ever feel like an outsider because of your religious beliefs? When I lived in heavily Christian areas in the deep south, sometimes yes. Up north, not very often.

1) Why do you lie about being agnostic?
2) Did you go to her church? How did she insist you believe in God by extending an invitation to her church? Asking you to attend a church youth service is NOT insistence that you believe in God. Having a band at the service is forbidden? Why is that detail so ominous? If your friend said “come to my church friend, we will have a good time, etc,” she was not hiding the location of the event to lie to you.
3) Your mom had a right to take you to church.
4)
5)How did the people I’m the south make you feel like an outsider?

1) I wasn't (intentionally) lying about being agnostic; I just didn't have the words to define myself as such. My family belonged to a church, hence I had a religion. Just not one I believed.
2) I think you're getting a little defensive about this. Growing up mainstream protestant (and not particularly invested in the fact that there were different denominations), I had no concept of how my friend's evangelical church would be so drastically different from my own church. Her description of a party at her church was about how it's a concert for teens and the teen pastor was so cool. Was I naive? Yes, definitely. But I didn't expect a concert to turn into a sermon about converting your friends to evangelicalism and that part struck me as a bait and switch.
3) Of course she had the right to take me to church. But the question was about being forced to go and if I'd had a choice, I wouldn't have gone.
4) No snarky comment?
5) People in the south were incredibly nice and welcoming and interested in helping me find "a church home" which was lovely. But not being religious myself and thus not having or looking for a church home, made me feel like an outsider. It was about being a minority agnostic in a culture where the majority are religious, in contrast to the north, where people don't talk about religion as openly.

Thanks for the complete and non-snarky explanation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1) Have you ever omitted (or even lied) about your true religious beliefs to make a social situation easier? Yes. For a while in middle school I didn't really know which denomination my family was and mistakenly told people I was Catholic (we were Lutheran). In reality, I was agnostic.

2) Has anyone ever insisted that you believe in a certain god or religious figure? I had a friend in high school who was very into her evangelical church and always trying to get other people to go with her to their teen services. They definitely had the goal of getting other kids to be Christian, but tried to pass it off like their teen service was just a party or a concert that just happened to have Christian Rock performers and a pastor.

3) Has anyone ever made you go to a religious service? My mom made us go for a while when I was little. But then she got tired of me and my siblings and my dad complaining about having to go, and she gave up.

4) Has anyone ever made you participate in a religious activity? No.

5) Do you ever feel like an outsider because of your religious beliefs? When I lived in heavily Christian areas in the deep south, sometimes yes. Up north, not very often.

1) Why do you lie about being agnostic?
2) Did you go to her church? How did she insist you believe in God by extending an invitation to her church? Asking you to attend a church youth service is NOT insistence that you believe in God. Having a band at the service is forbidden? Why is that detail so ominous? If your friend said “come to my church friend, we will have a good time, etc,” she was not hiding the location of the event to lie to you.
3) Your mom had a right to take you to church.
4)
5)How did the people I’m the south make you feel like an outsider?

1) I wasn't (intentionally) lying about being agnostic; I just didn't have the words to define myself as such. My family belonged to a church, hence I had a religion. Just not one I believed.
2) I think you're getting a little defensive about this. Growing up mainstream protestant (and not particularly invested in the fact that there were different denominations), I had no concept of how my friend's evangelical church would be so drastically different from my own church. Her description of a party at her church was about how it's a concert for teens and the teen pastor was so cool. Was I naive? Yes, definitely. But I didn't expect a concert to turn into a sermon about converting your friends to evangelicalism and that part struck me as a bait and switch.
3) Of course she had the right to take me to church. But the question was about being forced to go and if I'd had a choice, I wouldn't have gone.
4) No snarky comment?
5) People in the south were incredibly nice and welcoming and interested in helping me find "a church home" which was lovely. But not being religious myself and thus not having or looking for a church home, made me feel like an outsider. It was about being a minority agnostic in a culture where the majority are religious, in contrast to the north, where people don't talk about religion as openly.

Thanks for the complete and non-snarky explanation.

People in the south who are religious are very committed to their faith. I work at a school in the south. 3 churches donated thousands of dollars of food and gifts to the students. They also donated amazing food baskets to the custodians, along with gift cards to a grocery store. They did this for every school in the area. Over 75% of the students at our school have families that live below the poverty line. It was very nice for the families to receive this at Christmas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1) Have you ever omitted (or even lied) about your true religious beliefs to make a social situation easier? Yes. For a while in middle school I didn't really know which denomination my family was and mistakenly told people I was Catholic (we were Lutheran). In reality, I was agnostic.

2) Has anyone ever insisted that you believe in a certain god or religious figure? I had a friend in high school who was very into her evangelical church and always trying to get other people to go with her to their teen services. They definitely had the goal of getting other kids to be Christian, but tried to pass it off like their teen service was just a party or a concert that just happened to have Christian Rock performers and a pastor.

3) Has anyone ever made you go to a religious service? My mom made us go for a while when I was little. But then she got tired of me and my siblings and my dad complaining about having to go, and she gave up.

4) Has anyone ever made you participate in a religious activity? No.

5) Do you ever feel like an outsider because of your religious beliefs? When I lived in heavily Christian areas in the deep south, sometimes yes. Up north, not very often.

1) Why do you lie about being agnostic?
2) Did you go to her church? How did she insist you believe in God by extending an invitation to her church? Asking you to attend a church youth service is NOT insistence that you believe in God. Having a band at the service is forbidden? Why is that detail so ominous? If your friend said “come to my church friend, we will have a good time, etc,” she was not hiding the location of the event to lie to you.
3) Your mom had a right to take you to church.
4)
5)How did the people I’m the south make you feel like an outsider?

1) I wasn't (intentionally) lying about being agnostic; I just didn't have the words to define myself as such. My family belonged to a church, hence I had a religion. Just not one I believed.
2) I think you're getting a little defensive about this. Growing up mainstream protestant (and not particularly invested in the fact that there were different denominations), I had no concept of how my friend's evangelical church would be so drastically different from my own church. Her description of a party at her church was about how it's a concert for teens and the teen pastor was so cool. Was I naive? Yes, definitely. But I didn't expect a concert to turn into a sermon about converting your friends to evangelicalism and that part struck me as a bait and switch.
3) Of course she had the right to take me to church. But the question was about being forced to go and if I'd had a choice, I wouldn't have gone.
4) No snarky comment?
5) People in the south were incredibly nice and welcoming and interested in helping me find "a church home" which was lovely. But not being religious myself and thus not having or looking for a church home, made me feel like an outsider. It was about being a minority agnostic in a culture where the majority are religious, in contrast to the north, where people don't talk about religion as openly.

Thanks for the complete and non-snarky explanation.

People in the south who are religious are very committed to their faith. I work at a school in the south. 3 churches donated thousands of dollars of food and gifts to the students. They also donated amazing food baskets to the custodians, along with gift cards to a grocery store. They did this for every school in the area. Over 75% of the students at our school have families that live below the poverty line. It was very nice for the families to receive this at Christmas.

I'm glad to hear that Christians can be kind to others, although religion is not needed to be kind. Many non-religious people are kind without any mandate from above and without any expectation of eternal life.