What is wrong with the FBI?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it is an FBI problem; it’s a societal problem. Look how long comedians knew about Cosby. Look at all the unprocessed rape kits. Look at the child pornography problem. Most men in our society don’t care if women and children are exploited.

While I don’t think that is true, I also do hold FBI agents to the standard of enforcing the law and at least investigation. It’s even in the name. He didn’t have to believe the report. But his job and oath required him to investigate it whether he believed it or not.

What don’t you think is true? I think all police SELECTIVELY apply laws. Rape of women and molesting kids is a low priority for police.

I don’t think it is true that most men don’t care. I don’t think that is true. But if a few don’t care and those few are in major positions of power, the damage is as bad as if all don’t care. I also don’t think this is indicative of all cops are bad. One FBI agent could have written a report. He didn’t have to do anything horrible. He had to write a report. But it was icky. It made him squirm. And he was not accountable at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I said that about the daughters. Maybe it doesn’t resonate with some of you but before I had kids, I would read all kinds of books. After kids I couldn’t even read the Pat Conroy book South of Broad because it had so much abuse in the plot. Anyway, Comey was apparently a terrible FBI agent for a whole variety of reasons but this one may be the worst of his failings by far. So many lives damaged.

NP. No, it didn’t take having kids for me to care about abuse. In HS, I worked in a crisis nursery -which is where kids go after removed from their parent’s custody while foster care is being lined up. It was horrifying what I saw.

[Anonymous]

Well, The FBI agent Abbott - who is collecting an FBI pension - btw cared more about maybe getting in good with the IS Olympic Comm than doing his job and protecting children from pedophiles :
Abbott took this man’s bait and applied for a job with US Olympic comm while dropping investigation into Nasser:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wate.com/news/local-news/former-usa-gymnastics-president-and-ceo-steve-penny-arrested-in-gatlinburg/amp/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"> https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wate.com/news/local-news/former-usa-gymnastics-president-and-ceo-steve-penny-arrested-in-gatlinburg/amp/

Abbott, Penny and Longerman all need to be arrested

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it is an FBI problem; it’s a societal problem. Look how long comedians knew about Cosby. Look at all the unprocessed rape kits. Look at the child pornography problem. Most men in our society don’t care if women and children are exploited.

While I don’t think that is true, I also do hold FBI agents to the standard of enforcing the law and at least investigation. It’s even in the name. He didn’t have to believe the report. But his job and oath required him to investigate it whether he believed it or not.

What don’t you think is true? I think all police SELECTIVELY apply laws. Rape of women and molesting kids is a low priority for police.

I don’t think it is true that most men don’t care. I don’t think that is true. But if a few don’t care and those few are in major positions of power, the damage is as bad as if all don’t care. I also don’t think this is indicative of all cops are bad. One FBI agent could have written a report. He didn’t have to do anything horrible. He had to write a report. But it was icky. It made him squirm. And he was not accountable at all.

Men in power DO NOT care! If they cared, this crap wouldn’t go on. There would be only one victim for Nasser or Sandusky or R Kelly. Men look the other way.

[Anonymous]

Why the discussion about Comey in the context of the gymnastics case?

It's very likely that this case never came across his desk until long after Nassar was arrested. He's not seeing every lead that comes out of the Indianapolis field office. He didn't squash this case or throw his political weight around.

And I absolutely agree with the person who said Comey is a narcissist. But he wasn't the problem in the Nassar case.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why the discussion about Comey in the context of the gymnastics case?

It's very likely that this case never came across his desk until long after Nassar was arrested. He's not seeing every lead that comes out of the Indianapolis field office. He didn't squash this case or throw his political weight around.

And I absolutely agree with the person who said Comey is a narcissist. But he wasn't the problem in the Nassar case.

Right but RWNJ must parrot what they know

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why the discussion about Comey in the context of the gymnastics case?

It's very likely that this case never came across his desk until long after Nassar was arrested. He's not seeing every lead that comes out of the Indianapolis field office. He didn't squash this case or throw his political weight around.

And I absolutely agree with the person who said Comey is a narcissist. But he wasn't the problem in the Nassar case.

The problem is that everyone has given men the benefit of the doubt and always doubted women and children.
Abuse is common.
Harassment is common.
Men committing these offenses are common.
It’s the guy sitting 2 desks down from you. It’s your neighbor.
Women and children lying about it is uncommon.

[Anonymous]

Dig a little. The FBI has been caught in so many scandals - recently and throughout its troubled history.

The primary problem is it’s truly a rogue agency.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why the discussion about Comey in the context of the gymnastics case?

It's very likely that this case never came across his desk until long after Nassar was arrested. He's not seeing every lead that comes out of the Indianapolis field office. He didn't squash this case or throw his political weight around.

And I absolutely agree with the person who said Comey is a narcissist. But he wasn't the problem in the Nassar case.

+1 to all of this. And another +1 to DOJ re-examining whether there need to be charges in the case of the fired officer and the retired officer who failed these girls.

[Anonymous]

I agree that it’s a societal problem. We don’t value women and girls’ or honestly all children, as much as we do men. And the reality is men abuse children and women because THEY CAN. Because other men greenlight it. They fail to investigate abuse, they continue to work and be friends with abusers, they look the other way, they stay quiet, etc. It may be correct that most men in America are not okay with child sexual abuse or abuse but they are not bothered enough to use their influence to stop it. It’s like how so many white people looked the other way despite clear evidence of police brutality occurring at higher rates against Black people. It took George Floyd being murdered in front of us for over 8 minutes during a pandemic before many white Americans stopped looking away. We have a societal problem. We will have a problem until those who benefit the most from our current system—specifically affluent, connected men—stop looking away and do something. That includes all those men with daughters who love them but not enough to demand real accountability.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why the discussion about Comey in the context of the gymnastics case?

It's very likely that this case never came across his desk until long after Nassar was arrested. He's not seeing every lead that comes out of the Indianapolis field office. He didn't squash this case or throw his political weight around.

And I absolutely agree with the person who said Comey is a narcissist. But he wasn't the problem in the Nassar case.

+1 to all of this. And another +1 to DOJ re-examining whether there need to be charges in the case of the fired officer and the retired officer who failed these girls.

The discussion is about Comey because he was leading the FBI when all this happened. He was in charge. In charge of culture. In charge of norms. In charge of the agents beneath him.
He set the tone for how cases were handled. So much bad happened in the FBI under his watch. Agents were negligent because they knew there would be no real consequences.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it is an FBI problem; it’s a societal problem. Look how long comedians knew about Cosby. Look at all the unprocessed rape kits. Look at the child pornography problem. Most men in our society don’t care if women and children are exploited.

This is absolutely an FBI problem. They are the Federal Bureau of INVESTIGATIONS. It is their duty to handle investigations appropriately.
This was handled poorly in all regards. And, the agents involved should be prosecuted - retired or not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I agree that it’s a societal problem. We don’t value women and girls’ or honestly all children, as much as we do men. And the reality is men abuse children and women because THEY CAN. Because other men greenlight it. They fail to investigate abuse, they continue to work and be friends with abusers, they look the other way, they stay quiet, etc. It may be correct that most men in America are not okay with child sexual abuse or abuse but they are not bothered enough to use their influence to stop it. It’s like how so many white people looked the other way despite clear evidence of police brutality occurring at higher rates against Black people. It took George Floyd being murdered in front of us for over 8 minutes during a pandemic before many white Americans stopped looking away. We have a societal problem. We will have a problem until those who benefit the most from our current system—specifically affluent, connected men—stop looking away and do something. That includes all those men with daughters who love them but not enough to demand real accountability.

This exactly. Just look at the light sentences rapist get - if they get any time at all. Go read the Local DC news forum about the convicted rapist following women around DuPont Circle. He’s threatening women and cops don’t seem to do anything. Everyone keeps saying “we can’t do anything” because to the men in power, it doesn’t affect them. Only women are affected so it doesn’t really matter to them.

[Anonymous]

The FBI seems like a deeply troubled agency but I don't think it's ever been an especially healthy work culture with a reasonable scope of work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it is an FBI problem; it’s a societal problem. Look how long comedians knew about Cosby. Look at all the unprocessed rape kits. Look at the child pornography problem. Most men in our society don’t care if women and children are exploited.

Ding ding ding!