Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ACA was sold as reducing the cost of healthcare. Now costs have gone up and they want more and more subsidies to cover the premiums.
Of course some of the price increase is because of these same subsidies.

Look at what happened in education. Trump put a limit of $50,000 for student loans, and a college that was charging 65,000 now has lowered tuition to.... 50,000!

So what’s the answer? Huge portions of the country just don’t deserve healthcare? The current Congress is unable to solve the easiest problems these days so what’s the path forward?

We need to go back to reasonable prices for regular preventative and minor care that people can pay out of pocket. Insurance should be for catastrophic things only. There's absolutely no reason that insurance should need to be involved for a regular physical for your kid to play sports or even a colonoscopy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ACA was sold as reducing the cost of healthcare. Now costs have gone up and they want more and more subsidies to cover the premiums.
Of course some of the price increase is because of these same subsidies.

Look at what happened in education. Trump put a limit of $50,000 for student loans, and a college that was charging 65,000 now has lowered tuition to.... 50,000!

So what’s the answer? Huge portions of the country just don’t deserve healthcare? The current Congress is unable to solve the easiest problems these days so what’s the path forward?

We need to go back to reasonable prices for regular preventative and minor care that people can pay out of pocket. Insurance should be for catastrophic things only. There's absolutely no reason that insurance should need to be involved for a regular physical for your kid to play sports or even a colonoscopy.

We haven't had that since the 70s.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ACA was sold as reducing the cost of healthcare. Now costs have gone up and they want more and more subsidies to cover the premiums.
Of course some of the price increase is because of these same subsidies.

Look at what happened in education. Trump put a limit of $50,000 for student loans, and a college that was charging 65,000 now has lowered tuition to.... 50,000!

So what’s the answer? Huge portions of the country just don’t deserve healthcare? The current Congress is unable to solve the easiest problems these days so what’s the path forward?

We need to go back to reasonable prices for regular preventative and minor care that people can pay out of pocket. Insurance should be for catastrophic things only. There's absolutely no reason that insurance should need to be involved for a regular physical for your kid to play sports or even a colonoscopy.

Great. So more colon cancer?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ACA was sold as reducing the cost of healthcare. Now costs have gone up and they want more and more subsidies to cover the premiums.
Of course some of the price increase is because of these same subsidies.

Look at what happened in education. Trump put a limit of $50,000 for student loans, and a college that was charging 65,000 now has lowered tuition to.... 50,000!

So what’s the answer? Huge portions of the country just don’t deserve healthcare? The current Congress is unable to solve the easiest problems these days so what’s the path forward?

We need to go back to reasonable prices for regular preventative and minor care that people can pay out of pocket. Insurance should be for catastrophic things only. There's absolutely no reason that insurance should need to be involved for a regular physical for your kid to play sports or even a colonoscopy.

Where do you draw the line? someone with a chronic but manageable disease? So many examples.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ACA was sold as reducing the cost of healthcare. Now costs have gone up and they want more and more subsidies to cover the premiums.
Of course some of the price increase is because of these same subsidies.

Look at what happened in education. Trump put a limit of $50,000 for student loans, and a college that was charging 65,000 now has lowered tuition to.... 50,000!

So what’s the answer? Huge portions of the country just don’t deserve healthcare? The current Congress is unable to solve the easiest problems these days so what’s the path forward?

We need to go back to reasonable prices for regular preventative and minor care that people can pay out of pocket. Insurance should be for catastrophic things only. There's absolutely no reason that insurance should need to be involved for a regular physical for your kid to play sports or even a colonoscopy.

Great. So more colon cancer?

The point is that prices should come down enough that people can afford to pay out of pocket.

[Anonymous]

After bragging about permanently cutting "Democrat programs," Trump says "we're not closing up Republican programs."

I wonder what he considers the ACA? Because there are certainly more red state republicans using it than anyone else in the country.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I am bumping this thread because---- how on Earth is the shutdown not a huge story right now?!?!

Republicans have always wanted to shut down the government. So they did it. Fox News hate stories about the Federal Government being reopened. The Dems are happy the government is shut down because the Federal government is being used to arrest and imprison democrats.

It is a good thing the US Military, DHS, FBI, DOJ, ICE, etc are not getting a paycheck. All those organizations and the people in them have declared war on Blue states and democrats.

If the Dems don’t want it opened it will remain closed. Hope it causes a lot of pain.

Republicans passed a CR in the House.

It's democrats who decided not to vote for it in the Senate.

Fact: Republicans did not shut down the government.

Democrats are required to vote for whatever the house passes?

They don't have to vote for it, but they can allow it to be brought up for a vote. Still unclear why this 60 vote threshold is there. I thought all budget bills are no filibuster.

That said, Republicans gain by having Democrats not vote for it, since they get to fire lots of federal workers and downsize the government.

They would have to vote for that. The republicans can kill the filibuster whenever they want to. They choose not to. Trump was firing federal workers before this. The two things have nothing to do with one another.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ACA was sold as reducing the cost of healthcare. Now costs have gone up and they want more and more subsidies to cover the premiums.
Of course some of the price increase is because of these same subsidies.

Look at what happened in education. Trump put a limit of $50,000 for student loans, and a college that was charging 65,000 now has lowered tuition to.... 50,000!

So what’s the answer? Huge portions of the country just don’t deserve healthcare? The current Congress is unable to solve the easiest problems these days so what’s the path forward?

We need to go back to reasonable prices for regular preventative and minor care that people can pay out of pocket. Insurance should be for catastrophic things only. There's absolutely no reason that insurance should need to be involved for a regular physical for your kid to play sports or even a colonoscopy.

Republicans are free to propose a plan. Trump has been promising that for going on 10 years now, and still hasn't done it. Until then, they can STFU.

[Anonymous]

Our healthcare system is broken. Doesn't really matter what you do to keep costs low. That's kinda a joke. The fact we all pay insurance premiums monthly + more out of pocket copay/specialty costs/etc costs is just a racket. Full stop. Even if we only paid x monthly you have to add on more. It's NEVER just your monthly premium - you'll still need to reach your deductible to get % paid for physical or mental. Don't even include vision and dental!!! lol

I'm not suggesting raising prices but just saying that there's no low cost insurance - it's all ridiculously high in the general sense. Saving us all $100 or whatever is just making themselves politically successful and feeling better. The more value added is how to change our stupid system!! That is pretty much impossible so it's about fighting the fights you can win. This shutdown hurts people just like higher healthcare premiums will. It's a matter or who you hurt, how much and what you're impacting. It's about picking your fights and this is just going to be a stupid fight for a reallllllly long time.

[Anonymous]

Dems should not extend ACA premium subsidies since Republicans use them more.

[Anonymous]

So they are trying for full year minibus bills?

https://www.reddit.com/r/fednews/comments/1o6u8pk/defense_appropriations_at_the_end_oftodays_senate/

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/10/14/congress/senate-gop-will-try-to-advance-three-bill-minibus-during-shutdown-00608418

Basically get republican friendly agencies funded. They are hoping to pull some democrats who want to see soldiers paid or have farmers in their state.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our healthcare system is broken. Doesn't really matter what you do to keep costs low. That's kinda a joke. The fact we all pay insurance premiums monthly + more out of pocket copay/specialty costs/etc costs is just a racket. Full stop. Even if we only paid x monthly you have to add on more. It's NEVER just your monthly premium - you'll still need to reach your deductible to get % paid for physical or mental. Don't even include vision and dental!!! lol

I'm not suggesting raising prices but just saying that there's no low cost insurance - it's all ridiculously high in the general sense. Saving us all $100 or whatever is just making themselves politically successful and feeling better. The more value added is how to change our stupid system!! That is pretty much impossible so it's about fighting the fights you can win. This shutdown hurts people just like higher healthcare premiums will. It's a matter or who you hurt, how much and what you're impacting. It's about picking your fights and this is just going to be a stupid fight for a reallllllly long time.

The problem is the middleman - the Rick Scotts of the world and all of the people who don't actually provide front line health care services who skim off the system. The GOP refuses to change it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So they are trying for full year minibus bills?

https://www.reddit.com/r/fednews/comments/1o6u8pk/defense_appropriations_at_the_end_oftodays_senate/

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/10/14/congress/senate-gop-will-try-to-advance-three-bill-minibus-during-shutdown-00608418

Basically get republican friendly agencies funded. They are hoping to pull some democrats who want to see soldiers paid or have farmers in their state.

The flaw here is the house would need to come back and swear in the 218th signatory on the Epstein discharge petition. Also why would democrats vote for this when trump says he has the right to change any deal made after the fact? There’s zero incentive for any democrat to make a deal that they know won’t be honored.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ACA was sold as reducing the cost of healthcare. Now costs have gone up and they want more and more subsidies to cover the premiums.
Of course some of the price increase is because of these same subsidies.

Look at what happened in education. Trump put a limit of $50,000 for student loans, and a college that was charging 65,000 now has lowered tuition to.... 50,000!

So what’s the answer? Huge portions of the country just don’t deserve healthcare? The current Congress is unable to solve the easiest problems these days so what’s the path forward?

We need to go back to reasonable prices for regular preventative and minor care that people can pay out of pocket. Insurance should be for catastrophic things only. There's absolutely no reason that insurance should need to be involved for a regular physical for your kid to play sports or even a colonoscopy.

How do you suggest we achieve this?

[Anonymous]

COLLINS: The Dept of Energy just canceled $1b for a hydrogen hub that covers Montana. Is that taking away good-paying jobs?

SHEEHY: Of course it is. We want govt to be open

C: But the Energy Secretary says he would've pulled that funding even if govt was open

S: ... Well, that's unfortunate