Lively/Baldoni Lawsuit Part 2

Anonymous
I just think it’s incredible how the majority of the socials are pro-Justin. I don’t even agree with them. Lol.

It’s actually really sad because it shows you people really just want to hate on women.
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Anonymous wrote:I just think it’s incredible how the majority of the socials are pro-Justin. I don’t even agree with them. Lol.

It’s actually really sad because it shows you people really just want to hate on women.


Lol.
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Anonymous wrote:I wonder when we say that there were times when Justin lost his temper or acted unprofessionally, does it matter to anyone that Blake and Ryan were really pushing way beyond the boundaries of a professional relationship?

It seemed like fairly early on in production, Blake and Ryan liked to have meetings with Baldoni in their Tribeca penthouse. I find that pretty unprofessional of them, and also unprofessional to have other celebrity friends there as well.

It’s kind of absurd to me that more people haven’t questioned that.

Then to push the opinions of high-powered celebrity friends when wanting to say change the rooftop scene or something seems really unprofessional. It also seems insane to me that Ryan berated Justin I believe according to the timeline at least twice, both times in the penthouse, one time leading to a Sony exec to quit the movie because he had never seen such bad behavior.

I also don’t see people questioning Ryan’s involvement in this movie enough. Is it because he’s just such a huge celebrity and power player that we take for granted that of course he’s going to be super involved in a film that he has nothing to do with?? But isn’t that really out of the norm and also super unprofessional? I actually think that is why Blake is having trouble getting roles because now people if they didn’t realize before, see that they’re getting a package deal.

We have to ask ourselves if Blake wasn’t married to Ryan Reynolds would a lot of these scenarios have happened. I just have been really surprised that more people haven’t pushed back… Why the F was Taylor Swift and Hugh Jackman in a meeting about it ends with us with Justin? Why in the hell were these meetings taking place in Ryan Reynolds penthouse and not at a studio or onset? Why was Ryan allowed to berate Justin?

I just don’t see people questioning that enough probably because these are celebrities so they seem benign, but in any other workplace setting, this would be so totally out of the ordinary.

It seems like Justin was put in some really challenging and totally unprofessional scenarios and the power imbalance was really off.


Are you saying that was a good excuse for the pattern of poor behavior with multiple female coworkers, even prior to his interactions with Ryan?


This. That argument only makes sense if Justin behaved well right up until he encountered Blake and Ryan and then they did terrible things to him and made him behave badly.

But what we're starting to see now is that multiple women and potentially also some other witnesses (such as production heads on the movie) encountered Justin's negative behaviors before there were any issues with Blake. Which would indicate that this is just who Justin is. I'm really landing on that -- I think he's a narcissist who has issues with women (he literally said so himself in his apology to Alex Saks for yelling at her her, twice, in zoom meetings, all before any of the issues with Blake) and has tried to paper over these issues with his faux "male feminism" schtick. I think all of this independently of Blake's behavior, It seems like this is who he was all along.

I also keep coming back to this problem that both Saks and Jenny Slate have highlighted at various points, which is that he should not have been trying to star, direct, and produce this movie, and that in doing so it not only brought out some of his worst behaviors (as stress tends to do) but also put many of these women, but especially his costars, in really difficult positions because they couldn't tell their director or producer "hey I'm not comfortable with what my costar is doing in this scene," because he is everything at once. And they also couldn't go to Heath to express concerns about Baldoni's behavior because Heath and Baldoni were a unit and Heath was going to back up everything Baldoni did and vice versa, so if when there were issues with both their behavior, they both just united against the criticism and there was no one who could step in and say "hey let's just handle it this way so everyone is comfortable." Especially because the one woman in a position of authority on set, Alex Saks, had been sidelined by Baldoni and Heath and locked out of a lot of these choices since she wasn't part of Wayfarer.

None of this has anything to do with Blake really. It's a bad dynamic from the jump, and we are seeing how other people involved in this movie and in previous projects with Wayfarer identified this issue and struggled with it. That means even if Blake sucks, even if her behavior was bad or Ryan was overbearing or whatever, there's still a good chance she was a victim of this dynamic because she had nothing to do with creating it. That was all Baldoni and Heath and others at Wayfarer, making affirmative choices to create an unhealthy work environment that was hostile, specifically, to women.


Once again , this isn’t really actionable and has little to do with Blake’s specific complaints.


It's directly relevant because Blake's SH claims are arguing hostile work environment. Part of HWE is that the behavior is "severe and pervasive." Thus establishing that Baldoni and Heath engaged in behavior that made multiple women on the set uncomfortable is directly relevant and helps to establish that this wasn't just Blake taking innocent behavior out of context or blowing one or two small events out of proportion. These are details that will be persuasive with a jury.

The sequence of events that led to Blake's complaints, and also what happened after, is also directly relevant. The fact that Blake was *not* the first woman to make an allegation about Baldoni/Heath is very relevant. It also matters that when Jenny Slate took her concerns to Alex Saks, and Alex raised them both with Sony (via Ange Gianetti) and with Baldoni/Heath, Sony deferred to Wayfarer and then Wayfarer did nothing. If Saks, Slate, and Gianetti all testify to that sequence of events, this becomes directly relevant to what happened when Blake then started raising her concerns, because now we have a pattern of ignoring or dismissing concerns about Baldoni's/Heath's behavior towards women on set. This in itself can contribute to a hostile work environment claim.

Also, remember that thing about Baldoni going around and asking the production heads to go to Russian baths with him? Saks testified that she caught wind of this and and told Heath, who apparently talked to Baldoni and got him to stop. A relevant data point is that many if not most of the production heads were men. This happened early in production, within the first few days of shooting. So now we have an example of where men, through Alex Saks, complained about inappropriate behavior from Baldoni, and it was addressed and resolved quickly and there is no indication Baldoni brought up the Russian baths again. But after that we have Slate complaining about Baldoni calling her sexy and Heath saying something to her about motherhood that she felt crossed a line. She complains, Saks again brings it up to Heath, but it's not dealt with. And after that we have Baldoni calling *Blake* sexy on set, making a comment about "I guess I missed the HR meeting" to Jenny (a reference to Jenny's earlier complaint about the exact same language), and we have Baldoni and Heath discussing specifically the topic of motherhood/childbirth with Blake in a way that made her uncomfortable. So when men complained about Baldoni's behavior, the behavior ceases and those boundaries are respected. When women complain about Baldoni's behavior, he persists and even makes jokes about how he's been asked not to do this stuff previously.

The Alex Saks and Jenny Slate allegations are extremely relevant to Blake's claims.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I just think it’s incredible how the majority of the socials are pro-Justin. I don’t even agree with them. Lol.

It’s actually really sad because it shows you people really just want to hate on women.


Yes, I’ve learned a lot from Blake lively. Step 1 marry an a lister husband worth $400 million and you too can pretend that you wrote a scene that he wrote, demand your boss come to your penthouse for meetings, so your husband can berate him, and get a PGA credit that you didn’t earn. And get your lawyer to write a letter threatening to quit every month of the project if you don’t get your way.

She is doing so much for women and is such a role model!
Anonymous
Baldoni’s innocent.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I just think it’s incredible how the majority of the socials are pro-Justin. I don’t even agree with them. Lol.

It’s actually really sad because it shows you people really just want to hate on women.


I support women which is why I don't support Blake who is basically trying to take a huge dump on all of the other actresses who suffered before #metoo including by her mentor Weinstein who she won't say a negative word about.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I just think it’s incredible how the majority of the socials are pro-Justin. I don’t even agree with them. Lol.

It’s actually really sad because it shows you people really just want to hate on women.


I support women which is why I don't support Blake who is basically trying to take a huge dump on all of the other actresses who suffered before #metoo including by her mentor Weinstein who she won't say a negative word about.


+1000000000
Anonymous
And don’t forget the Woody Allen support
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I wonder when we say that there were times when Justin lost his temper or acted unprofessionally, does it matter to anyone that Blake and Ryan were really pushing way beyond the boundaries of a professional relationship?

It seemed like fairly early on in production, Blake and Ryan liked to have meetings with Baldoni in their Tribeca penthouse. I find that pretty unprofessional of them, and also unprofessional to have other celebrity friends there as well.

It’s kind of absurd to me that more people haven’t questioned that.

Then to push the opinions of high-powered celebrity friends when wanting to say change the rooftop scene or something seems really unprofessional. It also seems insane to me that Ryan berated Justin I believe according to the timeline at least twice, both times in the penthouse, one time leading to a Sony exec to quit the movie because he had never seen such bad behavior.

I also don’t see people questioning Ryan’s involvement in this movie enough. Is it because he’s just such a huge celebrity and power player that we take for granted that of course he’s going to be super involved in a film that he has nothing to do with?? But isn’t that really out of the norm and also super unprofessional? I actually think that is why Blake is having trouble getting roles because now people if they didn’t realize before, see that they’re getting a package deal.

We have to ask ourselves if Blake wasn’t married to Ryan Reynolds would a lot of these scenarios have happened. I just have been really surprised that more people haven’t pushed back… Why the F was Taylor Swift and Hugh Jackman in a meeting about it ends with us with Justin? Why in the hell were these meetings taking place in Ryan Reynolds penthouse and not at a studio or onset? Why was Ryan allowed to berate Justin?

I just don’t see people questioning that enough probably because these are celebrities so they seem benign, but in any other workplace setting, this would be so totally out of the ordinary.

It seems like Justin was put in some really challenging and totally unprofessional scenarios and the power imbalance was really off.


Are you saying that was a good excuse for the pattern of poor behavior with multiple female coworkers, even prior to his interactions with Ryan?


This. That argument only makes sense if Justin behaved well right up until he encountered Blake and Ryan and then they did terrible things to him and made him behave badly.

But what we're starting to see now is that multiple women and potentially also some other witnesses (such as production heads on the movie) encountered Justin's negative behaviors before there were any issues with Blake. Which would indicate that this is just who Justin is. I'm really landing on that -- I think he's a narcissist who has issues with women (he literally said so himself in his apology to Alex Saks for yelling at her her, twice, in zoom meetings, all before any of the issues with Blake) and has tried to paper over these issues with his faux "male feminism" schtick. I think all of this independently of Blake's behavior, It seems like this is who he was all along.

I also keep coming back to this problem that both Saks and Jenny Slate have highlighted at various points, which is that he should not have been trying to star, direct, and produce this movie, and that in doing so it not only brought out some of his worst behaviors (as stress tends to do) but also put many of these women, but especially his costars, in really difficult positions because they couldn't tell their director or producer "hey I'm not comfortable with what my costar is doing in this scene," because he is everything at once. And they also couldn't go to Heath to express concerns about Baldoni's behavior because Heath and Baldoni were a unit and Heath was going to back up everything Baldoni did and vice versa, so if when there were issues with both their behavior, they both just united against the criticism and there was no one who could step in and say "hey let's just handle it this way so everyone is comfortable." Especially because the one woman in a position of authority on set, Alex Saks, had been sidelined by Baldoni and Heath and locked out of a lot of these choices since she wasn't part of Wayfarer.

None of this has anything to do with Blake really. It's a bad dynamic from the jump, and we are seeing how other people involved in this movie and in previous projects with Wayfarer identified this issue and struggled with it. That means even if Blake sucks, even if her behavior was bad or Ryan was overbearing or whatever, there's still a good chance she was a victim of this dynamic because she had nothing to do with creating it. That was all Baldoni and Heath and others at Wayfarer, making affirmative choices to create an unhealthy work environment that was hostile, specifically, to women.


Once again , this isn’t really actionable and has little to do with Blake’s specific complaints.


It's directly relevant because Blake's SH claims are arguing hostile work environment. Part of HWE is that the behavior is "severe and pervasive." Thus establishing that Baldoni and Heath engaged in behavior that made multiple women on the set uncomfortable is directly relevant and helps to establish that this wasn't just Blake taking innocent behavior out of context or blowing one or two small events out of proportion. These are details that will be persuasive with a jury.

The sequence of events that led to Blake's complaints, and also what happened after, is also directly relevant. The fact that Blake was *not* the first woman to make an allegation about Baldoni/Heath is very relevant. It also matters that when Jenny Slate took her concerns to Alex Saks, and Alex raised them both with Sony (via Ange Gianetti) and with Baldoni/Heath, Sony deferred to Wayfarer and then Wayfarer did nothing. If Saks, Slate, and Gianetti all testify to that sequence of events, this becomes directly relevant to what happened when Blake then started raising her concerns, because now we have a pattern of ignoring or dismissing concerns about Baldoni's/Heath's behavior towards women on set. This in itself can contribute to a hostile work environment claim.

Also, remember that thing about Baldoni going around and asking the production heads to go to Russian baths with him? Saks testified that she caught wind of this and and told Heath, who apparently talked to Baldoni and got him to stop. A relevant data point is that many if not most of the production heads were men. This happened early in production, within the first few days of shooting. So now we have an example of where men, through Alex Saks, complained about inappropriate behavior from Baldoni, and it was addressed and resolved quickly and there is no indication Baldoni brought up the Russian baths again. But after that we have Slate complaining about Baldoni calling her sexy and Heath saying something to her about motherhood that she felt crossed a line. She complains, Saks again brings it up to Heath, but it's not dealt with. And after that we have Baldoni calling *Blake* sexy on set, making a comment about "I guess I missed the HR meeting" to Jenny (a reference to Jenny's earlier complaint about the exact same language), and we have Baldoni and Heath discussing specifically the topic of motherhood/childbirth with Blake in a way that made her uncomfortable. So when men complained about Baldoni's behavior, the behavior ceases and those boundaries are respected. When women complain about Baldoni's behavior, he persists and even makes jokes about how he's been asked not to do this stuff previously.

The Alex Saks and Jenny Slate allegations are extremely relevant to Blake's claims.


Yup. I agree. And I’ll raise you the other complaint that when women brought up issues with Baldoni that Baldoni didn’t like, like the sexy comment or Lively’s complaint or now the new example of Aleks Saks telling Baldoni she thought they had the coverage they needed — he didn’t take it well at all. With Slate and Lively, he would get surly and mean-ish, closing off and saying he must have missed the HR training otherwise showing that negative feedback was very unwelcome. With Saks, he got super angry and pounded in the chair next to her, to the point where she said she would not return to set if he ever did that again.

The golden boy likes to be lauded and kissed up to and sometimes just could not take it when a woman challenged or disagreed with him. He wasn’t built for that, apparently, despite his podcast.
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Anonymous wrote:I wonder when we say that there were times when Justin lost his temper or acted unprofessionally, does it matter to anyone that Blake and Ryan were really pushing way beyond the boundaries of a professional relationship?

It seemed like fairly early on in production, Blake and Ryan liked to have meetings with Baldoni in their Tribeca penthouse. I find that pretty unprofessional of them, and also unprofessional to have other celebrity friends there as well.

It’s kind of absurd to me that more people haven’t questioned that.

Then to push the opinions of high-powered celebrity friends when wanting to say change the rooftop scene or something seems really unprofessional. It also seems insane to me that Ryan berated Justin I believe according to the timeline at least twice, both times in the penthouse, one time leading to a Sony exec to quit the movie because he had never seen such bad behavior.

I also don’t see people questioning Ryan’s involvement in this movie enough. Is it because he’s just such a huge celebrity and power player that we take for granted that of course he’s going to be super involved in a film that he has nothing to do with?? But isn’t that really out of the norm and also super unprofessional? I actually think that is why Blake is having trouble getting roles because now people if they didn’t realize before, see that they’re getting a package deal.

We have to ask ourselves if Blake wasn’t married to Ryan Reynolds would a lot of these scenarios have happened. I just have been really surprised that more people haven’t pushed back… Why the F was Taylor Swift and Hugh Jackman in a meeting about it ends with us with Justin? Why in the hell were these meetings taking place in Ryan Reynolds penthouse and not at a studio or onset? Why was Ryan allowed to berate Justin?

I just don’t see people questioning that enough probably because these are celebrities so they seem benign, but in any other workplace setting, this would be so totally out of the ordinary.

It seems like Justin was put in some really challenging and totally unprofessional scenarios and the power imbalance was really off.


Are you saying that was a good excuse for the pattern of poor behavior with multiple female coworkers, even prior to his interactions with Ryan?


This. That argument only makes sense if Justin behaved well right up until he encountered Blake and Ryan and then they did terrible things to him and made him behave badly.

But what we're starting to see now is that multiple women and potentially also some other witnesses (such as production heads on the movie) encountered Justin's negative behaviors before there were any issues with Blake. Which would indicate that this is just who Justin is. I'm really landing on that -- I think he's a narcissist who has issues with women (he literally said so himself in his apology to Alex Saks for yelling at her her, twice, in zoom meetings, all before any of the issues with Blake) and has tried to paper over these issues with his faux "male feminism" schtick. I think all of this independently of Blake's behavior, It seems like this is who he was all along.

I also keep coming back to this problem that both Saks and Jenny Slate have highlighted at various points, which is that he should not have been trying to star, direct, and produce this movie, and that in doing so it not only brought out some of his worst behaviors (as stress tends to do) but also put many of these women, but especially his costars, in really difficult positions because they couldn't tell their director or producer "hey I'm not comfortable with what my costar is doing in this scene," because he is everything at once. And they also couldn't go to Heath to express concerns about Baldoni's behavior because Heath and Baldoni were a unit and Heath was going to back up everything Baldoni did and vice versa, so if when there were issues with both their behavior, they both just united against the criticism and there was no one who could step in and say "hey let's just handle it this way so everyone is comfortable." Especially because the one woman in a position of authority on set, Alex Saks, had been sidelined by Baldoni and Heath and locked out of a lot of these choices since she wasn't part of Wayfarer.

None of this has anything to do with Blake really. It's a bad dynamic from the jump, and we are seeing how other people involved in this movie and in previous projects with Wayfarer identified this issue and struggled with it. That means even if Blake sucks, even if her behavior was bad or Ryan was overbearing or whatever, there's still a good chance she was a victim of this dynamic because she had nothing to do with creating it. That was all Baldoni and Heath and others at Wayfarer, making affirmative choices to create an unhealthy work environment that was hostile, specifically, to women.


Once again , this isn’t really actionable and has little to do with Blake’s specific complaints.


It's directly relevant because Blake's SH claims are arguing hostile work environment. Part of HWE is that the behavior is "severe and pervasive." Thus establishing that Baldoni and Heath engaged in behavior that made multiple women on the set uncomfortable is directly relevant and helps to establish that this wasn't just Blake taking innocent behavior out of context or blowing one or two small events out of proportion. These are details that will be persuasive with a jury.

The sequence of events that led to Blake's complaints, and also what happened after, is also directly relevant. The fact that Blake was *not* the first woman to make an allegation about Baldoni/Heath is very relevant. It also matters that when Jenny Slate took her concerns to Alex Saks, and Alex raised them both with Sony (via Ange Gianetti) and with Baldoni/Heath, Sony deferred to Wayfarer and then Wayfarer did nothing. If Saks, Slate, and Gianetti all testify to that sequence of events, this becomes directly relevant to what happened when Blake then started raising her concerns, because now we have a pattern of ignoring or dismissing concerns about Baldoni's/Heath's behavior towards women on set. This in itself can contribute to a hostile work environment claim.

Also, remember that thing about Baldoni going around and asking the production heads to go to Russian baths with him? Saks testified that she caught wind of this and and told Heath, who apparently talked to Baldoni and got him to stop. A relevant data point is that many if not most of the production heads were men. This happened early in production, within the first few days of shooting. So now we have an example of where men, through Alex Saks, complained about inappropriate behavior from Baldoni, and it was addressed and resolved quickly and there is no indication Baldoni brought up the Russian baths again. But after that we have Slate complaining about Baldoni calling her sexy and Heath saying something to her about motherhood that she felt crossed a line. She complains, Saks again brings it up to Heath, but it's not dealt with. And after that we have Baldoni calling *Blake* sexy on set, making a comment about "I guess I missed the HR meeting" to Jenny (a reference to Jenny's earlier complaint about the exact same language), and we have Baldoni and Heath discussing specifically the topic of motherhood/childbirth with Blake in a way that made her uncomfortable. So when men complained about Baldoni's behavior, the behavior ceases and those boundaries are respected. When women complain about Baldoni's behavior, he persists and even makes jokes about how he's been asked not to do this stuff previously.

The Alex Saks and Jenny Slate allegations are extremely relevant to Blake's claims.



Op please, the standard isn’t anything that makes a particular woman uncomfortable if the discomfort isn’t reasonable. Jenny Slade will go on stage and flash the audience her naked ass, and you want me to believe she was harassed by use of the word “sexy” which we know Blake freely used on set and in her correspondence and references to motherhood. It’s all utterly inane and a manufactured attempt to make something out of nothing.
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Anonymous wrote:I wonder when we say that there were times when Justin lost his temper or acted unprofessionally, does it matter to anyone that Blake and Ryan were really pushing way beyond the boundaries of a professional relationship?

It seemed like fairly early on in production, Blake and Ryan liked to have meetings with Baldoni in their Tribeca penthouse. I find that pretty unprofessional of them, and also unprofessional to have other celebrity friends there as well.

It’s kind of absurd to me that more people haven’t questioned that.

Then to push the opinions of high-powered celebrity friends when wanting to say change the rooftop scene or something seems really unprofessional. It also seems insane to me that Ryan berated Justin I believe according to the timeline at least twice, both times in the penthouse, one time leading to a Sony exec to quit the movie because he had never seen such bad behavior.

I also don’t see people questioning Ryan’s involvement in this movie enough. Is it because he’s just such a huge celebrity and power player that we take for granted that of course he’s going to be super involved in a film that he has nothing to do with?? But isn’t that really out of the norm and also super unprofessional? I actually think that is why Blake is having trouble getting roles because now people if they didn’t realize before, see that they’re getting a package deal.

We have to ask ourselves if Blake wasn’t married to Ryan Reynolds would a lot of these scenarios have happened. I just have been really surprised that more people haven’t pushed back… Why the F was Taylor Swift and Hugh Jackman in a meeting about it ends with us with Justin? Why in the hell were these meetings taking place in Ryan Reynolds penthouse and not at a studio or onset? Why was Ryan allowed to berate Justin?

I just don’t see people questioning that enough probably because these are celebrities so they seem benign, but in any other workplace setting, this would be so totally out of the ordinary.

It seems like Justin was put in some really challenging and totally unprofessional scenarios and the power imbalance was really off.


Are you saying that was a good excuse for the pattern of poor behavior with multiple female coworkers, even prior to his interactions with Ryan?


This. That argument only makes sense if Justin behaved well right up until he encountered Blake and Ryan and then they did terrible things to him and made him behave badly.

But what we're starting to see now is that multiple women and potentially also some other witnesses (such as production heads on the movie) encountered Justin's negative behaviors before there were any issues with Blake. Which would indicate that this is just who Justin is. I'm really landing on that -- I think he's a narcissist who has issues with women (he literally said so himself in his apology to Alex Saks for yelling at her her, twice, in zoom meetings, all before any of the issues with Blake) and has tried to paper over these issues with his faux "male feminism" schtick. I think all of this independently of Blake's behavior, It seems like this is who he was all along.

I also keep coming back to this problem that both Saks and Jenny Slate have highlighted at various points, which is that he should not have been trying to star, direct, and produce this movie, and that in doing so it not only brought out some of his worst behaviors (as stress tends to do) but also put many of these women, but especially his costars, in really difficult positions because they couldn't tell their director or producer "hey I'm not comfortable with what my costar is doing in this scene," because he is everything at once. And they also couldn't go to Heath to express concerns about Baldoni's behavior because Heath and Baldoni were a unit and Heath was going to back up everything Baldoni did and vice versa, so if when there were issues with both their behavior, they both just united against the criticism and there was no one who could step in and say "hey let's just handle it this way so everyone is comfortable." Especially because the one woman in a position of authority on set, Alex Saks, had been sidelined by Baldoni and Heath and locked out of a lot of these choices since she wasn't part of Wayfarer.

None of this has anything to do with Blake really. It's a bad dynamic from the jump, and we are seeing how other people involved in this movie and in previous projects with Wayfarer identified this issue and struggled with it. That means even if Blake sucks, even if her behavior was bad or Ryan was overbearing or whatever, there's still a good chance she was a victim of this dynamic because she had nothing to do with creating it. That was all Baldoni and Heath and others at Wayfarer, making affirmative choices to create an unhealthy work environment that was hostile, specifically, to women.


Once again , this isn’t really actionable and has little to do with Blake’s specific complaints.


It's directly relevant because Blake's SH claims are arguing hostile work environment. Part of HWE is that the behavior is "severe and pervasive." Thus establishing that Baldoni and Heath engaged in behavior that made multiple women on the set uncomfortable is directly relevant and helps to establish that this wasn't just Blake taking innocent behavior out of context or blowing one or two small events out of proportion. These are details that will be persuasive with a jury.

The sequence of events that led to Blake's complaints, and also what happened after, is also directly relevant. The fact that Blake was *not* the first woman to make an allegation about Baldoni/Heath is very relevant. It also matters that when Jenny Slate took her concerns to Alex Saks, and Alex raised them both with Sony (via Ange Gianetti) and with Baldoni/Heath, Sony deferred to Wayfarer and then Wayfarer did nothing. If Saks, Slate, and Gianetti all testify to that sequence of events, this becomes directly relevant to what happened when Blake then started raising her concerns, because now we have a pattern of ignoring or dismissing concerns about Baldoni's/Heath's behavior towards women on set. This in itself can contribute to a hostile work environment claim.

Also, remember that thing about Baldoni going around and asking the production heads to go to Russian baths with him? Saks testified that she caught wind of this and and told Heath, who apparently talked to Baldoni and got him to stop. A relevant data point is that many if not most of the production heads were men. This happened early in production, within the first few days of shooting. So now we have an example of where men, through Alex Saks, complained about inappropriate behavior from Baldoni, and it was addressed and resolved quickly and there is no indication Baldoni brought up the Russian baths again. But after that we have Slate complaining about Baldoni calling her sexy and Heath saying something to her about motherhood that she felt crossed a line. She complains, Saks again brings it up to Heath, but it's not dealt with. And after that we have Baldoni calling *Blake* sexy on set, making a comment about "I guess I missed the HR meeting" to Jenny (a reference to Jenny's earlier complaint about the exact same language), and we have Baldoni and Heath discussing specifically the topic of motherhood/childbirth with Blake in a way that made her uncomfortable. So when men complained about Baldoni's behavior, the behavior ceases and those boundaries are respected. When women complain about Baldoni's behavior, he persists and even makes jokes about how he's been asked not to do this stuff previously.

The Alex Saks and Jenny Slate allegations are extremely relevant to Blake's claims.


Yup. I agree. And I’ll raise you the other complaint that when women brought up issues with Baldoni that Baldoni didn’t like, like the sexy comment or Lively’s complaint or now the new example of Aleks Saks telling Baldoni she thought they had the coverage they needed — he didn’t take it well at all. With Slate and Lively, he would get surly and mean-ish, closing off and saying he must have missed the HR training otherwise showing that negative feedback was very unwelcome. With Saks, he got super angry and pounded in the chair next to her, to the point where she said she would not return to set if he ever did that again.

The golden boy likes to be lauded and kissed up to and sometimes just could not take it when a woman challenged or disagreed with him. He wasn’t built for that, apparently, despite his podcast.


So Slade also reported Blake for her frequent use of “sexy” on set and wildly inappropriate references to sex acts in work texts?
Anonymous
For the hundredth time, Alex’s complaints about creative disputes is not sexual harasssment. It’s also common to every movie ever made.
Anonymous
So much for Blake lively supporting women. The New York times is refusing to remove a factually incorrect item from their article alleging that the “how’s your little bump” reporter coordinated with Justin.

Lively’s team has admitted in writing that there’s no evidence that they coordinated. The journalist has come out and said she in no way coordinated with them and released the video on her own.

The journalist has been harassed by Blake supporters and was forced to leave her home after getting doxed. Because Lively wanted her name in an article when they had no proof.

Sorry, folks, this is not supporting women. I really hope Megan Twoey faces consequence for this.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I just think it’s incredible how the majority of the socials are pro-Justin. I don’t even agree with them. Lol.

It’s actually really sad because it shows you people really just want to hate on women.


I support women which is why I don't support Blake who is basically trying to take a huge dump on all of the other actresses who suffered before #metoo including by her mentor Weinstein who she won't say a negative word about.


I know right? They’ve really confused people with such mixed messaging. It’s actually funny if you think about it.

And Reynolds is just so pompous. He needs to be humbled. He is so unlikable and unrealistic as leading man.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So much for Blake lively supporting women. The New York times is refusing to remove a factually incorrect item from their article alleging that the “how’s your little bump” reporter coordinated with Justin.

Lively’s team has admitted in writing that there’s no evidence that they coordinated.
The journalist has come out and said she in no way coordinated with them and released the video on her own.

The journalist has been harassed by Blake supporters and was forced to leave her home after getting doxed. Because Lively wanted her name in an article when they had no proof.

Sorry, folks, this is not supporting women. I really hope Megan Twoey faces consequence for this.


When did Lively admit that?
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