Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:They have good video footage of him as well

Me again. This is per the press conference this AM

They had so much footage of the person who planted the bombs near the DNC and could never find him or her. I wonder if they will really find this shooter...

Charlie believed in 2A though and thought empathy was a made up term from New Agers.

Good point, but that person ultimately did not kill anyone and in the chaos of that day and the days that followed, law enforcement was not hot on their trail. It makes all the difference. This shooter is priority number 1 for the FBI and other agencies. They will find him.

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Anonymous wrote:People might not get how big Charlie Kirk really was before his death. He had almost 23 million followers across TikTok, Instagram, Twitter/X, and YouTube, which is about 6 to 7 percent of the U.S. population right now. That is the kind of reach you only see with the biggest voices of a generation. For comparison, MLK had around 10 million active supporters through churches and marches back in 1968, about 5 percent of the population then.

Kirk knew how to use the tools of his time the same way MLK did. King worked through TV and newspapers, Kirk worked through TikTok, podcasts, and social media. Both relied on words, not violence. King pushed peaceful protest, Kirk pushed debate and activism. Up until his death today, Kirk was the face of conservative youth in America, shaping the conversation for millions. You may not know his impact, but it is strong, and many are already equating him to MLK for the conservative movement because of the reach, the speeches, and the nonviolent approach.

Charlie Kirk can only be compared to MLK by people who do not understand, or intentionally elide, the moral content of MLK’s teachings.

“God created us all equal and everyone deserves a seat at the table in America” and “Some people are racially or genetically inferior and do not deserve the same rights as others” are not commensurate positions.

All political assassinations are terrible—they open up the prospect of more violence, which will disproportionately harm people who are most at risk of harm already—but this comparison is absolute nonsense.

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MAGA vows retribution on liberals. Liberals did not kill Kirk. It was the act of one individual.

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Anonymous wrote:Wall Street Journal confirms a leaked document from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) reveals that the weapon found near the site of Charlie Kirk’s assassination was equipped with cartridges engraved with symbols and phrases tied to transgender and Antifa ideology.

False flag? Stinks of it.

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What about Minnesota House Rep Melissa Hortman who was also horrifically murdered? And Minnesota Senator Hoffman who was shot and wounded? And in those cases, their spouses also suffered the same fates, respectively.

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This is going to be the excuse for more authoritarianism

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Anonymous wrote:Wall Street Journal confirms a leaked document from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) reveals that the weapon found near the site of Charlie Kirk’s assassination was equipped with cartridges engraved with symbols and phrases tied to transgender and Antifa ideology.

If true, who's to say this isn't a false flag?

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Anonymous wrote:They found the gun

Killer of Charlie Kirk 'appears to be of college age,' police say, and 'blended in' with college population. - AP

This sounds unlikely.

The shooter was well trained. Shooting someone in the head from 200+ yards away and hitting him in the neck… this was not someone who was a weekend shooter.

DP. Hitting a target from 200 yards does require training, but there's a lot of practiced hunters and people with military training who could do it, including a lot of college aged people.

No sh*t Sherlock. A head shot, with a single round, from 200+ yards out, is marksmanship. This is not an individual that started shooting this month. He was formally trained.

- retired Marine.

And we will never know the true story. This administration will see to that. They have zero credibility at this point. They will make up their radical leftist narrative and shove it hard down everyone's throats to justify more militarization of our cities and to justify the violent retribution that Trump had been calling for all along.

Over this person? It was a horrible senseless murder, but a lot of people didn't even know much about this person. Most are learning about him from the coverage of this incident unless they were one of his existing fans.

Those of you who didn’t know much about Charlie Kirk have been living in a liberal bubble. He was extremely influential.

The vast majority of Americans don’t care enough about politics to know about this guy until he was shot.

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Anonymous wrote:Wall Street Journal confirms a leaked document from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) reveals that the weapon found near the site of Charlie Kirk’s assassination was equipped with cartridges engraved with symbols and phrases tied to transgender and Antifa ideology.

So, basically another white male shooter. Color me surprised. I’m also amused that the far right only recognizes transgender folks when tied to mass shootings. Swimming? Oh, he’s a guy! Shooting? Transgender for sure.

Mmmkay.

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Anonymous wrote:Kirk stepped out of line and said the Epstein files should be released. That could have upset some very powerful people.

I think that this is very related.

FFS.

You idiot.

I think it is just as plausible that someone who feels betrayed by Charlie Kirk (Loomer fanatic, anyone?) or who feels he isn't loyal enough to Trump would kill him as much as it s plausible it is someone from the left. After all, the right is well known for retributive violence.

Good lord. We have no idea. Speculating is idiotic and worse than useless—it’s damaging.

The Heritage Foundation released the following words from the organization's president, Kevin Roberts, about the death of Charlie Kirk: “His martyrdom must be a turning point for our country.”

Yes, he said "martyrdom." Remember, we don't even know who killed the man or why.

So, yes, such rhetoric is damaging. Are you outraged at both the PP and the Heritage Foundation?

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Anonymous wrote:Wall Street Journal confirms a leaked document from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) reveals that the weapon found near the site of Charlie Kirk’s assassination was equipped with cartridges engraved with symbols and phrases tied to transgender and Antifa ideology.

hate begets hate. violence begets violence.

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Anonymous wrote:Wall Street Journal confirms a leaked document from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) reveals that the weapon found near the site of Charlie Kirk’s assassination was equipped with cartridges engraved with symbols and phrases tied to transgender and Antifa ideology.

So, basically another white male shooter. Color me surprised. I’m also amused that the far right only recognizes transgender folks when tied to mass shootings. Swimming? Oh, he’s a guy! Shooting? Transgender for sure.

Mmmkay.

Very good point.

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Anonymous wrote:This young man got filthy rich spewing hate, advocated for war and genocide (mass death), laughed at poor Americans losing health insurance (mass death), and mocked poor Americans trapped in crippling student loan debt (wallowing in poverty).

💯 and I reserve my condolences for his children.

“This young man got filthy rich spewing hate, advocated for war and genocide (mass death), laughed at poor Americans losing health insurance (mass death), and mocked poor Americans trapped in crippling student loan debt (wallowing in poverty).”

PP - you need to provide specific services quotes from Charlie Kirk in these outrageous claims. Nothing can be further from the truth.

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Anonymous wrote:Wall Street Journal confirms a leaked document from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) reveals that the weapon found near the site of Charlie Kirk’s assassination was equipped with cartridges engraved with symbols and phrases tied to transgender and Antifa ideology.

So, basically another white male shooter. Color me surprised. I’m also amused that the far right only recognizes transgender folks when tied to mass shootings. Swimming? Oh, he’s a guy! Shooting? Transgender for sure.

Mmmkay.

Mentally ill all the same though.

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Anonymous wrote:What is going to happen to the right wing narrative that this is the "radical left's" fault if the shooter turns out to be another white right wing gun nut?

Do you honestly think there is any chance of us hearing the truth about this shooter? Anything that doesn't suit the Trump admin narrative will be wiped away.

PP here. I have to have hope. The scary thing is even if that is the truth and it is established it would 100% not change a thing. The right wing rage machine has to rage

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Our two awful political parties have divided and conquered their sheep. We must stand up to the mealthy elites controlling these two parties. Enough is enough.

You're a clown. There's only one party that has advocated for more stringent gun control and it's not the right and you know it. Go create your own party and let's see what you bring to the table.