Barr Installs Outside Prosecutor to Review Case Against Michael Flynn, Ex-Trump Adviser

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thing is, the treason was baked into the Trump campaign. They know they did it, they know the coordinated with Flynn.

Actually the entire GOP voting body knows the Trump campaign commit treason. They just don’t care because they have no sense of right and wrong. If they win, it’s all good to them.

Please. Don't reference this woman and claim there is "evidence" of anything. She is worthless.

[Anonymous]

DP...she is posting facts and cites her sources. If there i an issue with the fact she is posting, then attack that. Simply saying "she is worthless" does nothing to bolster the argument or advance what you perceive to be facts.

Eli Lake wrote something that was posted here yesterday that was full of half-truths and lies by omission. Those were pointed out and there has been nothing to lay claim that Lakes argument stand that scrutiny.

So either lay it out as to what the facts are and where "emptywheeler" is wrong, or else concede that she is right and move on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DP...she is posting facts and cites her sources. If there i an issue with the fact she is posting, then attack that. Simply saying "she is worthless" does nothing to bolster the argument or advance what you perceive to be facts.

Eli Lake wrote something that was posted here yesterday that was full of half-truths and lies by omission. Those were pointed out and there has been nothing to lay claim that Lakes argument stand that scrutiny.

So either lay it out as to what the facts are and where "emptywheeler" is wrong, or else concede that she is right and move on.

Sorry, I won't give her the clicks.

I am not a fan of Benjamin Wittes, but here is a piece calling her out for crap she has written.
https://www.lawfareblog.com/response-marcy-wheeler-jonathan-fredman

And, she is crazy.

While many once-respectable media figures like Hayes have seen their reputations inserted directly into the toilet, maybe the most bizarre case of all is Marcy Wheeler, the independent journalist known as @emptywheel. Wheeler appeared on Hayes’s first show after Mueller decisively cleared Trump of collusion – you know, the central tenet of the Special Counsel’s mandate. The fact that Hayes would have Wheeler on at that moment – after the entire Trump-Russia drama was definitively exposed as a ludicrous fantasy – showed that Hayes was committed to perpetuating the deceit even in the face of all countervailing evidence, whether unconsciously or consciously. That’s because Marcy Wheeler is almost certainly a deluded basket case.

The most obvious evidence for this is Wheeler’s sensational admission in July 2018 that she burned a source to the FBI, voluntarily and proactively, thereby committing one of journalism’s mortal sins. Wheeler justified her demented action on numerous fronts. First, she claimed that she possessed bombshell, smoking gun info that proved a Trump-Russia conspiracy, and felt a patriotic duty to hand this over to the FBI – in retribution for what she called Russia’s ‘attack’ on the United States. Let’s remember, shall we, that said attack at most amounted to some Twitter bots, goofy Facebook memes, and spear-phished Gmail accounts: John Podesta famously clicked on a phony link, which led to his emails being swiped. Hardly 9/11 or Pearl Harbor, wouldn’t you say? However, those comparisons have been seriously made by various prominent elected officials, including Rep. Jerrold Nadler of New York, who would have presided over impeachment proceedings had things panned out differently.

When pressed – even after the Mueller clearly asserted that no such Trump-Russia conspiracy ever existed – Wheeler still refuses to divulge any details about the extraordinary dispositive evidence she mysteriously claims to possess. Second, Wheeler further justified her insane conduct by insisting she could literally be killed by some unknown sinister alliance of Russians and Trump-backed mafia figures, or something (I’m not making this up.). Shamefully, Wheeler’s outlandish assertions were treated as gospel by members of the media who failed to apply even a modicum of critical scrutiny; Margaret Sullivan of the Washington Post heralded Wheeler as following her conscience and wrote this about the supposed Russian hit squad out to get her: ‘Overly dramatic? Not really. The Russians do have a penchant for disposing of people they find threatening.’ Utter lunacy. Since the Mueller finding, Wheeler has strangely not revealed any additional information about the nature of these would-be assassins.

Think about it. For months, Wheeler dangled cryptic hints about the explosive info that she alone supposedly knew about, enthralling blog readers and Twitter followers – and earning her major platforms not just on MSNBC but even the New York Times, where she contributed columns that contained blatant falsehoods. In the pages of the world’s most influential newspaper, she claimed that Mueller had been ‘hiding’ evidence showing Trump’s participation in a Russia conspiracy, and it would all come out once Mueller issued his final verdict. No dice.

Last week, Wheeler finally admitted her suspicion that the FBI may have just decided she is ‘crazy.’ Yes, sounds plausible.

https://spectator.us/boom-autopsy-media-mueller/

[Anonymous]

None of that has anything to do with what was written about Flynn and challenging Eli Lake's essay.

[Anonymous]

Wheeler relies a lot on the 302--but, remember, we still have not seen the original 302 or the notes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wheeler relies a lot on the 302--but, remember, we still have not seen the original 302 or the notes.

Perhaps the original 302 is so bad for Flynn, the Trump Administration and Trump DOJ and Trum FBI are withholding it. This really is not on Obama.

And while we are at it, go ahead and release all of the Flynn call records, transcripts, audio recordings, all of it. If he is so innocent, then let's put it out there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wheeler relies a lot on the 302--but, remember, we still have not seen the original 302 or the notes.

Perhaps the original 302 is so bad for Flynn, the Trump Administration and Trump DOJ and Trum FBI are withholding it. This really is not on Obama.

And while we are at it, go ahead and release all of the Flynn call records, transcripts, audio recordings, all of it. If he is so innocent, then let's put it out there.

WTH are you talking about? The defense has been asking for the original 302 for months. Maybe Wray will find it as part of the internal investigation.
If it had hurt Flynn, it would have been released long before.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wheeler relies a lot on the 302--but, remember, we still have not seen the original 302 or the notes.

Read the December opinion.

What we haven't seen are the transcripts of the calls. In general, those would never be published. But we've already trashed our foreign relations and national security so much, it doesn't matter anymore. Let's see them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wheeler relies a lot on the 302--but, remember, we still have not seen the original 302 or the notes.

Perhaps the original 302 is so bad for Flynn, the Trump Administration and Trump DOJ and Trum FBI are withholding it. This really is not on Obama.

And while we are at it, go ahead and release all of the Flynn call records, transcripts, audio recordings, all of it. If he is so innocent, then let's put it out there.

WTH are you talking about? The defense has been asking for the original 302 for months. Maybe Wray will find it as part of the internal investigation.
If it had hurt Flynn, it would have been released long before.

If the 302' s haven't been released, whose fault is that?

(hint, not Obama's)

[Anonymous]

The breadth and depth of "Trump-Russia" - there is a lot here so be patient.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1198565009925775361.html

And none of this includes Rudy's role in getting rid of the Italian mob so the Russia mob could come into NY without a bloodbath.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The breadth and depth of "Trump-Russia" - there is a lot here so be patient.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1198565009925775361.html

And none of this includes Rudy's role in getting rid of the Italian mob so the Russia mob could come into NY without a bloodbath.

This woman is insane.
I stopped reading when she referenced Carter Page as a Russian agent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The breadth and depth of "Trump-Russia" - there is a lot here so be patient.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1198565009925775361.html

And none of this includes Rudy's role in getting rid of the Italian mob so the Russia mob could come into NY without a bloodbath.

This woman is insane.
I stopped reading when she referenced Carter Page as a Russian agent.

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-campaign-aide-carter-page-may-have-been-russian-agent-justice-department-793554

On can be an unwitting agent.

If that is your only complaint....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The breadth and depth of "Trump-Russia" - there is a lot here so be patient.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1198565009925775361.html

And none of this includes Rudy's role in getting rid of the Italian mob so the Russia mob could come into NY without a bloodbath.

This woman is insane.
I stopped reading when she referenced Carter Page as a Russian agent.

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-campaign-aide-carter-page-may-have-been-russian-agent-justice-department-793554

On can be an unwitting agent.

If that is your only complaint....

You haven't been following this story.
Carter Page was working for the CIA.

An FBI agent, Kevin Clinesmith, is under investigation for altering an email about Page....

The FBI became close to correcting a mistake in the third and final warrant application renewal targeting onetime Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, but an FBI lawyer improperly altered a document to cover up that the bureau had erred in the previous filings.

In a report released on Monday, Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz offered a detailed description of the actions taken by Kevin Clinesmith, a then-FBI lawyer who was part of special counsel Robert Mueller's team, that led to the criminal referral reported two weeks ago.

"Supervisory Special Agent 2," who swore to an affidavit for all three FISA renewals against Page in 2017, told Horowitz's investigators that on the third renewal he wanted "a definitive answer to whether Page had ever been a source for another U.S. government agency before he signed the final renewal application."

While in contact with what was reportedly the CIA's liaison, Clinesmith was reminded that back in August 2016, predating the first Page warrant application in October 2016, the other agency informed the FBI that Page "did, in fact, have a prior relationship with that other agency."

An email from the other government agency's liaison was sent to Clinesmith, who then "altered the liaison's email by inserting the words 'not a source' into it, thus making it appear that the liaison had said that Page was 'not a source' for the other agency" and sent it to "Supervisory Special Agent 2," Horowitz found.

"Relying upon this altered email, [Clinesmith] signed the third renewal application that again failed to disclose Page's past relationship with the other agency," Horowitz wrote.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/fbi-lawyer-under-criminal-investigation-altered-document-to-say-carter-page-was-not-a-source-for-another-agency

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The breadth and depth of "Trump-Russia" - there is a lot here so be patient.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1198565009925775361.html

And none of this includes Rudy's role in getting rid of the Italian mob so the Russia mob could come into NY without a bloodbath.

This woman is insane.
I stopped reading when she referenced Carter Page as a Russian agent.

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-campaign-aide-carter-page-may-have-been-russian-agent-justice-department-793554

On can be an unwitting agent.

If that is your only complaint....

You haven't been following this story.
Carter Page was working for the CIA.

An FBI agent, Kevin Clinesmith, is under investigation for altering an email about Page....

The FBI became close to correcting a mistake in the third and final warrant application renewal targeting onetime Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, but an FBI lawyer improperly altered a document to cover up that the bureau had erred in the previous filings.

In a report released on Monday, Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz offered a detailed description of the actions taken by Kevin Clinesmith, a then-FBI lawyer who was part of special counsel Robert Mueller's team, that led to the criminal referral reported two weeks ago.

"Supervisory Special Agent 2," who swore to an affidavit for all three FISA renewals against Page in 2017, told Horowitz's investigators that on the third renewal he wanted "a definitive answer to whether Page had ever been a source for another U.S. government agency before he signed the final renewal application."

While in contact with what was reportedly the CIA's liaison, Clinesmith was reminded that back in August 2016, predating the first Page warrant application in October 2016, the other agency informed the FBI that Page "did, in fact, have a prior relationship with that other agency."

An email from the other government agency's liaison was sent to Clinesmith, who then "altered the liaison's email by inserting the words 'not a source' into it, thus making it appear that the liaison had said that Page was 'not a source' for the other agency" and sent it to "Supervisory Special Agent 2," Horowitz found.

"Relying upon this altered email, [Clinesmith] signed the third renewal application that again failed to disclose Page's past relationship with the other agency," Horowitz wrote.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/fbi-lawyer-under-criminal-investigation-altered-document-to-say-carter-page-was-not-a-source-for-another-agency

DP. Clinesmith got in trouble but you're illiterate.

Page was not working for the CIA at the relevant time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The breadth and depth of "Trump-Russia" - there is a lot here so be patient.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1198565009925775361.html

And none of this includes Rudy's role in getting rid of the Italian mob so the Russia mob could come into NY without a bloodbath.

This woman is insane.
I stopped reading when she referenced Carter Page as a Russian agent.

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-campaign-aide-carter-page-may-have-been-russian-agent-justice-department-793554

On can be an unwitting agent.

If that is your only complaint....

You haven't been following this story.
Carter Page was working for the CIA.

An FBI agent, Kevin Clinesmith, is under investigation for altering an email about Page....

The FBI became close to correcting a mistake in the third and final warrant application renewal targeting onetime Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, but an FBI lawyer improperly altered a document to cover up that the bureau had erred in the previous filings.

In a report released on Monday, Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz offered a detailed description of the actions taken by Kevin Clinesmith, a then-FBI lawyer who was part of special counsel Robert Mueller's team, that led to the criminal referral reported two weeks ago.

"Supervisory Special Agent 2," who swore to an affidavit for all three FISA renewals against Page in 2017, told Horowitz's investigators that on the third renewal he wanted "a definitive answer to whether Page had ever been a source for another U.S. government agency before he signed the final renewal application."

While in contact with what was reportedly the CIA's liaison, Clinesmith was reminded that back in August 2016, predating the first Page warrant application in October 2016, the other agency informed the FBI that Page "did, in fact, have a prior relationship with that other agency."

An email from the other government agency's liaison was sent to Clinesmith, who then "altered the liaison's email by inserting the words 'not a source' into it, thus making it appear that the liaison had said that Page was 'not a source' for the other agency" and sent it to "Supervisory Special Agent 2," Horowitz found.

"Relying upon this altered email, [Clinesmith] signed the third renewal application that again failed to disclose Page's past relationship with the other agency," Horowitz wrote.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/fbi-lawyer-under-criminal-investigation-altered-document-to-say-carter-page-was-not-a-source-for-another-agency

I don't understand why Carter Page's name keeps getting resurrected. He was investigated to death. He was charged with nothing. Zero.