FCPS comprehensive boundary review

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Maybe the Chantilly / Centreville HS overcrowding could be alleviated by making them 10-12 and some western middle schools 7-9. That might help people avoid big, bad Herndon.


Thats a logistical non starter. 9th grade is high school.


+1

They will shift the elementary feeders to Chantilly.

Greenbriar East will no longer be a split feeder with some of those kids shifting to Poplar Tree. And taking some current Poplar Tree homes and assigning them to Powell....then Centreville.

They won't move Brookfield - they need that school for the particular enrollment data.

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Anonymous wrote:Google maps drive time takes into account stoplights.

Forestville ES for instance is a much shorter drive to HHS than Langley by any measure.


From where I am, it’s currently 13min to hhs vs 21min to Langley. I get that we’re mid day, but the Langley hater wants to believe it is hours to Langley and seconds to Herndon high. Simply not the case.

By the way, currently 18 to cooper and 17 to HMS.

So that’s google maps for you 🤓


That's a substantial time difference.


The time difference between the high schools also matters more because it’s 4 years and kids are more likely to have after-school activities that run late.


What difference would the late activities have on transportation costs?


It impacts the environment more if all these Great Falls drivers are on the road for longer periods and kids also have less down time.


Your scenarios are getting more contrived as you go.


Minimizing travel time for students is one of the four main goals identified by FCPS. It’s not just minimizing FCPS’s direct transportation costs.
Anonymous
The letter from the coaches is to let us all know there are scandalous details that were "redacted" from documents shown to the coaches or VHSL...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Maybe the Chantilly / Centreville HS overcrowding could be alleviated by making them 10-12 and some western middle schools 7-9. That might help people avoid big, bad Herndon.


Thats a logistical non starter. 9th grade is high school.


9th grade is HS for magical reasons. It does not have to stay that way. In Fact some districts have had to change it for logistical reasons, sometimes temporarily. We have over capacity issues. We need solutions if the “haves” in certain districts won’t commingle with the “have nots.” I swear, we have a lot Sneetches around here. Many districts “have always” had 9th grade as part of HS. If we use that kind of logic, then maybe we should go back to grandpa’s generation when you were considered an adult at 16 and HS graduation was not a requirement.

Boundary changes don’t have to be entirely geographical. Especially since the priority on this site is property values not education. 7-9 grade schools could be a legit solution and is worth exploring.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Maybe the Chantilly / Centreville HS overcrowding could be alleviated by making them 10-12 and some western middle schools 7-9. That might help people avoid big, bad Herndon.


Thats a logistical non starter. 9th grade is high school.


9th grade is HS for magical reasons. It does not have to stay that way. In Fact some districts have had to change it for logistical reasons, sometimes temporarily. We have over capacity issues. We need solutions if the “haves” in certain districts won’t commingle with the “have nots.” I swear, we have a lot Sneetches around here. Many districts “have always” had 9th grade as part of HS. If we use that kind of logic, then maybe we should go back to grandpa’s generation when you were considered an adult at 16 and HS graduation was not a requirement.

Boundary changes don’t have to be entirely geographical. Especially since the priority on this site is property values not education. 7-9 grade schools could be a legit solution and is worth exploring.


Not in the realm of possibility. They are struggling enough already with the existing 6-8 vs 7-8 MS divide.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Google maps drive time takes into account stoplights.

Forestville ES for instance is a much shorter drive to HHS than Langley by any measure.


From where I am, it’s currently 13min to hhs vs 21min to Langley. I get that we’re mid day, but the Langley hater wants to believe it is hours to Langley and seconds to Herndon high. Simply not the case.

By the way, currently 18 to cooper and 17 to HMS.

So that’s google maps for you 🤓


That's a substantial time difference.


The time difference between the high schools also matters more because it’s 4 years and kids are more likely to have after-school activities that run late.


What difference would the late activities have on transportation costs?


It impacts the environment more if all these Great Falls drivers are on the road for longer periods and kids also have less down time.


Your scenarios are getting more contrived as you go.


Minimizing travel time for students is one of the four main goals identified by FCPS. It’s not just minimizing FCPS’s direct transportation costs.


Liar.

https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/D7HREM6DA7C5/$file/P8130.pdf

Page 3 section V.
The title of that section is transportation, and only one aspect relates to transportation times.

You hurt your credibility immensely when you lie to try to justify your point.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Maybe the Chantilly / Centreville HS overcrowding could be alleviated by making them 10-12 and some western middle schools 7-9. That might help people avoid big, bad Herndon.


Thats a logistical non starter. 9th grade is high school.


9th grade is HS for magical reasons. It does not have to stay that way. In Fact some districts have had to change it for logistical reasons, sometimes temporarily. We have over capacity issues. We need solutions if the “haves” in certain districts won’t commingle with the “have nots.” I swear, we have a lot Sneetches around here. Many districts “have always” had 9th grade as part of HS. If we use that kind of logic, then maybe we should go back to grandpa’s generation when you were considered an adult at 16 and HS graduation was not a requirement.

Boundary changes don’t have to be entirely geographical. Especially since the priority on this site is property values not education. 7-9 grade schools could be a legit solution and is worth exploring.


Not in the realm of possibility. They are struggling enough already with the existing 6-8 vs 7-8 MS divide.


Meh. Our HSs were 6-9 for many years in the 90s.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Google maps drive time takes into account stoplights.

Forestville ES for instance is a much shorter drive to HHS than Langley by any measure.


From where I am, it’s currently 13min to hhs vs 21min to Langley. I get that we’re mid day, but the Langley hater wants to believe it is hours to Langley and seconds to Herndon high. Simply not the case.

By the way, currently 18 to cooper and 17 to HMS.

So that’s google maps for you 🤓


That's a substantial time difference.


The time difference between the high schools also matters more because it’s 4 years and kids are more likely to have after-school activities that run late.


What difference would the late activities have on transportation costs?


It impacts the environment more if all these Great Falls drivers are on the road for longer periods and kids also have less down time.


Your scenarios are getting more contrived as you go.


Minimizing travel time for students is one of the four main goals identified by FCPS. It’s not just minimizing FCPS’s direct transportation costs.


Liar.

https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/D7HREM6DA7C5/$file/P8130.pdf

Page 3 section V.
The title of that section is transportation, and only one aspect relates to transportation times.

You hurt your credibility immensely when you lie to try to justify your point.



https://www.fcps.edu/about-fcps/maps/2024-2026-boundary-review
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Maybe the Chantilly / Centreville HS overcrowding could be alleviated by making them 10-12 and some western middle schools 7-9. That might help people avoid big, bad Herndon.


Thats a logistical non starter. 9th grade is high school.


9th grade is HS for magical reasons. It does not have to stay that way. In Fact some districts have had to change it for logistical reasons, sometimes temporarily. We have over capacity issues. We need solutions if the “haves” in certain districts won’t commingle with the “have nots.” I swear, we have a lot Sneetches around here. Many districts “have always” had 9th grade as part of HS. If we use that kind of logic, then maybe we should go back to grandpa’s generation when you were considered an adult at 16 and HS graduation was not a requirement.

Boundary changes don’t have to be entirely geographical. Especially since the priority on this site is property values not education. 7-9 grade schools could be a legit solution and is worth exploring.


Not in the realm of possibility. They are struggling enough already with the existing 6-8 vs 7-8 MS divide.

And secondary schools on top of that. How does 7-9 work, do AAP kids get kicked back to their home school for 9th?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Maybe the Chantilly / Centreville HS overcrowding could be alleviated by making them 10-12 and some western middle schools 7-9. That might help people avoid big, bad Herndon.


Thats a logistical non starter. 9th grade is high school.


9th grade is HS for magical reasons. It does not have to stay that way. In Fact some districts have had to change it for logistical reasons, sometimes temporarily. We have over capacity issues. We need solutions if the “haves” in certain districts won’t commingle with the “have nots.” I swear, we have a lot Sneetches around here. Many districts “have always” had 9th grade as part of HS. If we use that kind of logic, then maybe we should go back to grandpa’s generation when you were considered an adult at 16 and HS graduation was not a requirement.

Boundary changes don’t have to be entirely geographical. Especially since the priority on this site is property values not education. 7-9 grade schools could be a legit solution and is worth exploring.


Not in the realm of possibility. They are struggling enough already with the existing 6-8 vs 7-8 MS divide.


Meh. Our HSs were 6-9 for many years in the 90s.

It works fine in concept, but not in a county wide school district with multiple different models.
Anonymous
I see now that it’s early afternoon the Langley posters have reverted to their usual crude and sullen behavior, which includes calling people liars when they quote directly from FCPS materials.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Maybe the Chantilly / Centreville HS overcrowding could be alleviated by making them 10-12 and some western middle schools 7-9. That might help people avoid big, bad Herndon.


Thats a logistical non starter. 9th grade is high school.


9th grade is HS for magical reasons. It does not have to stay that way. In Fact some districts have had to change it for logistical reasons, sometimes temporarily. We have over capacity issues. We need solutions if the “haves” in certain districts won’t commingle with the “have nots.” I swear, we have a lot Sneetches around here. Many districts “have always” had 9th grade as part of HS. If we use that kind of logic, then maybe we should go back to grandpa’s generation when you were considered an adult at 16 and HS graduation was not a requirement.

Boundary changes don’t have to be entirely geographical. Especially since the priority on this site is property values not education. 7-9 grade schools could be a legit solution and is worth exploring.


Not in the realm of possibility. They are struggling enough already with the existing 6-8 vs 7-8 MS divide.

And secondary schools on top of that. How does 7-9 work, do AAP kids get kicked back to their home school for 9th?


Why not? Will AAP centers even survive?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I see now that it’s early afternoon the Langley posters have reverted to their usual crude and sullen behavior, which includes calling people liars when they quote directly from FCPS materials.


From the guiding policy passed by the school board that’ll be used by Thru or the spin from a staffer on the website? Because you quoted the latter.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Maybe the Chantilly / Centreville HS overcrowding could be alleviated by making them 10-12 and some western middle schools 7-9. That might help people avoid big, bad Herndon.


Thats a logistical non starter. 9th grade is high school.


9th grade is HS for magical reasons. It does not have to stay that way. In Fact some districts have had to change it for logistical reasons, sometimes temporarily. We have over capacity issues. We need solutions if the “haves” in certain districts won’t commingle with the “have nots.” I swear, we have a lot Sneetches around here. Many districts “have always” had 9th grade as part of HS. If we use that kind of logic, then maybe we should go back to grandpa’s generation when you were considered an adult at 16 and HS graduation was not a requirement.



Boundary changes don’t have to be entirely geographical. Especially since the priority on this site is property values not education. 7-9 grade schools could be a legit solution and is worth exploring.


You don't know anything about how FCPS runs high schools if you think having 9th grade in middle school is remotely feasible. What a logistical and administrative nightmare.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Maybe the Chantilly / Centreville HS overcrowding could be alleviated by making them 10-12 and some western middle schools 7-9. That might help people avoid big, bad Herndon.


Thats a logistical non starter. 9th grade is high school.


9th grade is HS for magical reasons. It does not have to stay that way. In Fact some districts have had to change it for logistical reasons, sometimes temporarily. We have over capacity issues. We need solutions if the “haves” in certain districts won’t commingle with the “have nots.” I swear, we have a lot Sneetches around here. Many districts “have always” had 9th grade as part of HS. If we use that kind of logic, then maybe we should go back to grandpa’s generation when you were considered an adult at 16 and HS graduation was not a requirement.

Boundary changes don’t have to be entirely geographical. Especially since the priority on this site is property values not education. 7-9 grade schools could be a legit solution and is worth exploring.


Are you bussing 9th graders to the high schools for sports and extra curricular activities?
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