FCPS comprehensive boundary review

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The bus isn’t an uber delivering your kid straight to school from your front door. Great Falls is spread out. A bus is going to have to drive a far distance to fill up regardless of whether they’re dropping the kids off at HHS or Langley in the end. Where transportation can potentially be saved is in neighborhoods where multiple bus routes are serving different schools like the Forestville boundary against Armstrong and Aldrin.

Sorry that’s just not that much of Forestville. Way different story around most of Forestville. Again just feels like you are cherry picking.

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Anonymous wrote:Google maps drive time takes into account stoplights.

Forestville ES for instance is a much shorter drive to HHS than Langley by any measure.

From where I am, it’s currently 13min to hhs vs 21min to Langley. I get that we’re mid day, but the Langley hater wants to believe it is hours to Langley and seconds to Herndon high. Simply not the case.

By the way, currently 18 to cooper and 17 to HMS.

So that’s google maps for you 🤓

That's a substantial time difference.

The time difference between the high schools also matters more because it’s 4 years and kids are more likely to have after-school activities that run late.

What difference would the late activities have on transportation costs?

It impacts the environment more if all these Great Falls drivers are on the road for longer periods and kids also have less down time.

Your scenarios are getting more contrived as you go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The bus isn’t an uber delivering your kid straight to school from your front door. Great Falls is spread out. A bus is going to have to drive a far distance to fill up regardless of whether they’re dropping the kids off at HHS or Langley in the end. Where transportation can potentially be saved is in neighborhoods where multiple bus routes are serving different schools like the Forestville boundary against Armstrong and Aldrin.

The idea!!! Rich Armstrong and Aldrin kids are too inferior to mix with rich Forestville kids. No, no, no! Their HHS cooties might infect them!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe the Chantilly / Centreville HS overcrowding could be alleviated by making them 10-12 and some western middle schools 7-9. That might help people avoid big, bad Herndon.

Thats a logistical non starter. 9th grade is high school.

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Anonymous wrote:Google maps drive time takes into account stoplights.

Forestville ES for instance is a much shorter drive to HHS than Langley by any measure.

From where I am, it’s currently 13min to hhs vs 21min to Langley. I get that we’re mid day, but the Langley hater wants to believe it is hours to Langley and seconds to Herndon high. Simply not the case.

By the way, currently 18 to cooper and 17 to HMS.

So that’s google maps for you 🤓

That's a substantial time difference.

What is 8 minutes or 1 minute? Which one is an insurmountable cost to the county? Because if you are able to take one bus off the road for that amount of time (8 min times two times 180), charitably you are looking at $1,200 of driver cost for the entire school year for that bus.

That’s why, at the end of the day, the savings would be laughable. Again, it’s pretext for equity. Very transparent.

Even if it means different things to different people, “equity” is not a dirty word to most people in the county the way it seems to be to Forestville parents. You hurt your cause when you always use it pejoratively, as the opposite of equity is “inequity,” and people then assume that’s what Langley represents.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe the Chantilly / Centreville HS overcrowding could be alleviated by making them 10-12 and some western middle schools 7-9. That might help people avoid big, bad Herndon.

Thats a logistical non starter. 9th grade is high school.

+1

They will shift the elementary feeders to Chantilly.

Greenbriar East will no longer be a split feeder with some of those kids shifting to Poplar Tree. And taking some current Poplar Tree homes and assigning them to Powell....then Centreville.

They won't move Brookfield - they need that school for the particular enrollment data.

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Anonymous wrote:Google maps drive time takes into account stoplights.

Forestville ES for instance is a much shorter drive to HHS than Langley by any measure.

From where I am, it’s currently 13min to hhs vs 21min to Langley. I get that we’re mid day, but the Langley hater wants to believe it is hours to Langley and seconds to Herndon high. Simply not the case.

By the way, currently 18 to cooper and 17 to HMS.

So that’s google maps for you 🤓

That's a substantial time difference.

The time difference between the high schools also matters more because it’s 4 years and kids are more likely to have after-school activities that run late.

What difference would the late activities have on transportation costs?

It impacts the environment more if all these Great Falls drivers are on the road for longer periods and kids also have less down time.

Your scenarios are getting more contrived as you go.

Minimizing travel time for students is one of the four main goals identified by FCPS. It’s not just minimizing FCPS’s direct transportation costs.

[Anonymous]

The letter from the coaches is to let us all know there are scandalous details that were "redacted" from documents shown to the coaches or VHSL...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe the Chantilly / Centreville HS overcrowding could be alleviated by making them 10-12 and some western middle schools 7-9. That might help people avoid big, bad Herndon.

Thats a logistical non starter. 9th grade is high school.

9th grade is HS for magical reasons. It does not have to stay that way. In Fact some districts have had to change it for logistical reasons, sometimes temporarily. We have over capacity issues. We need solutions if the “haves” in certain districts won’t commingle with the “have nots.” I swear, we have a lot Sneetches around here. Many districts “have always” had 9th grade as part of HS. If we use that kind of logic, then maybe we should go back to grandpa’s generation when you were considered an adult at 16 and HS graduation was not a requirement.

Boundary changes don’t have to be entirely geographical. Especially since the priority on this site is property values not education. 7-9 grade schools could be a legit solution and is worth exploring.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe the Chantilly / Centreville HS overcrowding could be alleviated by making them 10-12 and some western middle schools 7-9. That might help people avoid big, bad Herndon.

Thats a logistical non starter. 9th grade is high school.

9th grade is HS for magical reasons. It does not have to stay that way. In Fact some districts have had to change it for logistical reasons, sometimes temporarily. We have over capacity issues. We need solutions if the “haves” in certain districts won’t commingle with the “have nots.” I swear, we have a lot Sneetches around here. Many districts “have always” had 9th grade as part of HS. If we use that kind of logic, then maybe we should go back to grandpa’s generation when you were considered an adult at 16 and HS graduation was not a requirement.

Boundary changes don’t have to be entirely geographical. Especially since the priority on this site is property values not education. 7-9 grade schools could be a legit solution and is worth exploring.

Not in the realm of possibility. They are struggling enough already with the existing 6-8 vs 7-8 MS divide.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Google maps drive time takes into account stoplights.

Forestville ES for instance is a much shorter drive to HHS than Langley by any measure.

From where I am, it’s currently 13min to hhs vs 21min to Langley. I get that we’re mid day, but the Langley hater wants to believe it is hours to Langley and seconds to Herndon high. Simply not the case.

By the way, currently 18 to cooper and 17 to HMS.

So that’s google maps for you 🤓

That's a substantial time difference.

The time difference between the high schools also matters more because it’s 4 years and kids are more likely to have after-school activities that run late.

What difference would the late activities have on transportation costs?

It impacts the environment more if all these Great Falls drivers are on the road for longer periods and kids also have less down time.

Your scenarios are getting more contrived as you go.

Minimizing travel time for students is one of the four main goals identified by FCPS. It’s not just minimizing FCPS’s direct transportation costs.

Liar.

https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/D7HREM6DA7C5/$file/P8130.pdf

Page 3 section V.
The title of that section is transportation, and only one aspect relates to transportation times.

You hurt your credibility immensely when you lie to try to justify your point.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe the Chantilly / Centreville HS overcrowding could be alleviated by making them 10-12 and some western middle schools 7-9. That might help people avoid big, bad Herndon.

Thats a logistical non starter. 9th grade is high school.

9th grade is HS for magical reasons. It does not have to stay that way. In Fact some districts have had to change it for logistical reasons, sometimes temporarily. We have over capacity issues. We need solutions if the “haves” in certain districts won’t commingle with the “have nots.” I swear, we have a lot Sneetches around here. Many districts “have always” had 9th grade as part of HS. If we use that kind of logic, then maybe we should go back to grandpa’s generation when you were considered an adult at 16 and HS graduation was not a requirement.

Boundary changes don’t have to be entirely geographical. Especially since the priority on this site is property values not education. 7-9 grade schools could be a legit solution and is worth exploring.

Not in the realm of possibility. They are struggling enough already with the existing 6-8 vs 7-8 MS divide.

Meh. Our HSs were 6-9 for many years in the 90s.

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Anonymous wrote:Google maps drive time takes into account stoplights.

Forestville ES for instance is a much shorter drive to HHS than Langley by any measure.

From where I am, it’s currently 13min to hhs vs 21min to Langley. I get that we’re mid day, but the Langley hater wants to believe it is hours to Langley and seconds to Herndon high. Simply not the case.

By the way, currently 18 to cooper and 17 to HMS.

So that’s google maps for you 🤓

That's a substantial time difference.

The time difference between the high schools also matters more because it’s 4 years and kids are more likely to have after-school activities that run late.

What difference would the late activities have on transportation costs?

It impacts the environment more if all these Great Falls drivers are on the road for longer periods and kids also have less down time.

Your scenarios are getting more contrived as you go.

Minimizing travel time for students is one of the four main goals identified by FCPS. It’s not just minimizing FCPS’s direct transportation costs.

Liar.

https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/D7HREM6DA7C5/$file/P8130.pdf

Page 3 section V.
The title of that section is transportation, and only one aspect relates to transportation times.

You hurt your credibility immensely when you lie to try to justify your point.

https://www.fcps.edu/about-fcps/maps/2024-2026-boundary-review

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe the Chantilly / Centreville HS overcrowding could be alleviated by making them 10-12 and some western middle schools 7-9. That might help people avoid big, bad Herndon.

Thats a logistical non starter. 9th grade is high school.

9th grade is HS for magical reasons. It does not have to stay that way. In Fact some districts have had to change it for logistical reasons, sometimes temporarily. We have over capacity issues. We need solutions if the “haves” in certain districts won’t commingle with the “have nots.” I swear, we have a lot Sneetches around here. Many districts “have always” had 9th grade as part of HS. If we use that kind of logic, then maybe we should go back to grandpa’s generation when you were considered an adult at 16 and HS graduation was not a requirement.

Boundary changes don’t have to be entirely geographical. Especially since the priority on this site is property values not education. 7-9 grade schools could be a legit solution and is worth exploring.

Not in the realm of possibility. They are struggling enough already with the existing 6-8 vs 7-8 MS divide.

And secondary schools on top of that. How does 7-9 work, do AAP kids get kicked back to their home school for 9th?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe the Chantilly / Centreville HS overcrowding could be alleviated by making them 10-12 and some western middle schools 7-9. That might help people avoid big, bad Herndon.

Thats a logistical non starter. 9th grade is high school.

9th grade is HS for magical reasons. It does not have to stay that way. In Fact some districts have had to change it for logistical reasons, sometimes temporarily. We have over capacity issues. We need solutions if the “haves” in certain districts won’t commingle with the “have nots.” I swear, we have a lot Sneetches around here. Many districts “have always” had 9th grade as part of HS. If we use that kind of logic, then maybe we should go back to grandpa’s generation when you were considered an adult at 16 and HS graduation was not a requirement.

Boundary changes don’t have to be entirely geographical. Especially since the priority on this site is property values not education. 7-9 grade schools could be a legit solution and is worth exploring.

Not in the realm of possibility. They are struggling enough already with the existing 6-8 vs 7-8 MS divide.

Meh. Our HSs were 6-9 for many years in the 90s.

It works fine in concept, but not in a county wide school district with multiple different models.