So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?

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Anonymous wrote:Well, I feel like Eaton parents had been sold a story about Hardy turning around, but it seems like unless the Principal wants to make that happen, it just won't happen. Oh well.

Here is an Eaton family who will be lotterying out this year in an attempt at a Deal feeder.

John Eaton was royally screwed in the whole school reassignment process. Mr Frumin, the ward 3 rep on the boundary advisory committee, conceded (or is "dismissed" a better word?) Eaton students as the "collateral damage" in the whole process.

Honest question.

How do you fix deal overcrowding in a way that does not cut down on the number of feeders? Or do Eaton families want Deal expanded?

Signed, parent living IB for Hardy who can't afford vacations or extras because of private school tuition.

One way to fix Deal overcrowding woukd be to do a searching audit of the Maryland resident students who have gotten into Deal via feeder schools. You could probably contine to accommodate the DC graduates of Ohster and Eaton at Deal quite easily just by ferreting out the MD kids who are registered fraudulently.

I doubt there are many at deal. I'm sure pg kids head to schools on the other side of town, but a pg to deal commute would be hell. And bethesda schools are at least as good as deal, so they aren't coming from that direction.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, I feel like Eaton parents had been sold a story about Hardy turning around, but it seems like unless the Principal wants to make that happen, it just won't happen. Oh well.

Here is an Eaton family who will be lotterying out this year in an attempt at a Deal feeder.

John Eaton was royally screwed in the whole school reassignment process. Mr Frumin, the ward 3 rep on the boundary advisory committee, conceded (or is "dismissed" a better word?) Eaton students as the "collateral damage" in the whole process.

Honest question.

How do you fix deal overcrowding in a way that does not cut down on the number of feeders? Or do Eaton families want Deal expanded?

Signed, parent living IB for Hardy who can't afford vacations or extras because of private school tuition.

One way to fix Deal overcrowding woukd be to do a searching audit of the Maryland resident students who have gotten into Deal via feeder schools. You could probably contine to accommodate the DC graduates of Ohster and Eaton at Deal quite easily just by ferreting out the MD kids who are registered fraudulently.

I doubt there are many at deal. I'm sure pg kids head to schools on the other side of town, but a pg to deal commute would be hell. And bethesda schools are at least as good as deal, so they aren't coming from that direction.

There are PG kids at Hearst, Eaton, Lafayette and Murch who get in using a pretend DC residence address. They wind up at Deal.

[Anonymous]

If you all are so certain, why don't you turn in these PG kids...

[Anonymous]

Residency fraud tips are regularly provided to DCPS but it doesn't seem to be a priority for them. Then an incident happens that the media reports -- a Wilson football player barred when it's discovered he's a Md resident, a kid from PG who brings cocaine to elementary schools -- and DCPS is shocked. Shocked.

[Anonymous]

Only 13% of Hardy students live in boundaries? That's quite a vote of confidence from the school's IB area!

[Anonymous]

There's already a lengthy thread on what is wrong with Hardy. Is there another DCPS school that generates such controversy?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So the city is going to build a small school just to cater to IB families who don't want to go to school with OOB families? That is a crazy idea!

We proposed reducing enrollment at Hardy so that it could reach majority IB enrollment quickly, but that was a crazy idea as well.

The abbreviated version of this thread: Any proposal that results in a majority IB school for the families zoned for Hardy in the next few years is a crazy idea.

Here's a proposal that would work. IB families enroll in Hardy and then it will be a majority IB school. Oh my god, that's brilliant! And not crazy at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why should OOB families be "given" a school? This is so odd.

You're right. The IB families should enroll and take it away from them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the city is going to build a small school just to cater to IB families who don't want to go to school with OOB families? That is a crazy idea!

We proposed reducing enrollment at Hardy so that it could reach majority IB enrollment quickly, but that was a crazy idea as well.

The abbreviated version of this thread: Any proposal that results in a majority IB school for the families zoned for Hardy in the next few years is a crazy idea.

Here's a proposal that would work. IB families enroll in Hardy and then it will be a majority IB school. Oh my god, that's brilliant! And not crazy at all.

tsk tsk, it appears to me you didn't take the time to read all 97 pages of this thread before posting. How inconsiderate. Someone said that if all IB families attended Hardy instead of anything else, the school would still only be 30% IB, because it's a big school. Now, they might have pulled that number out of their butt, since there is a lot of farting on this thread, and very little data of any kind.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the city is going to build a small school just to cater to IB families who don't want to go to school with OOB families? That is a crazy idea!

We proposed reducing enrollment at Hardy so that it could reach majority IB enrollment quickly, but that was a crazy idea as well.

The abbreviated version of this thread: Any proposal that results in a majority IB school for the families zoned for Hardy in the next few years is a crazy idea.

It seems that the OOB community rejects getting rid of the uniforms as symbolic pandering to attract more IB families.

Really? You've read their minds? You know that, gee, they'd really like to get rid of the uniforms but since it's keeping IB families out they'll keep them just to spite the IB families. Seriously, are there actual educated people posting on this thread? Because an educated person can recognize that whole groups of people, such as the OOB families at Hardy, do not spend all their time scheming and worrying and planning to thwart whole groups of people who they never see and never give a thought to on a daily basis.

Earth to IB families: The OOB families are not thinking about you, not worrying about you, and not scheming to keep you out of a school where you can simply enroll in by walking into the front office.

[Anonymous]

"So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?"

Not enough.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the city is going to build a small school just to cater to IB families who don't want to go to school with OOB families? That is a crazy idea!

We proposed reducing enrollment at Hardy so that it could reach majority IB enrollment quickly, but that was a crazy idea as well.

The abbreviated version of this thread: Any proposal that results in a majority IB school for the families zoned for Hardy in the next few years is a crazy idea.

Here's a proposal that would work. IB families enroll in Hardy and then it will be a majority IB school. Oh my god, that's brilliant! And not crazy at all.

No it wont. Hardy = "Second tier MS school for anyone in the city whose IB school is failing and is willing to commute for a shot at a decent education."

The current enrollment of 375 is arbitrary. The building can probably accommodate twice that. As the number of IB kids increases, the enrollment will increase as well so that OOB families have a shot at a decent school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the city is going to build a small school just to cater to IB families who don't want to go to school with OOB families? That is a crazy idea!

We proposed reducing enrollment at Hardy so that it could reach majority IB enrollment quickly, but that was a crazy idea as well.

The abbreviated version of this thread: Any proposal that results in a majority IB school for the families zoned for Hardy in the next few years is a crazy idea.

Here's a proposal that would work. IB families enroll in Hardy and then it will be a majority IB school. Oh my god, that's brilliant! And not crazy at all.

No it wont. Hardy = "Second tier MS school for anyone in the city whose IB school is failing and is willing to commute for a shot at a decent education."

The current enrollment of 375 is arbitrary. The building can probably accommodate twice that. As the number of IB kids increases, the enrollment will increase as well so that OOB families have a shot at a decent school.

Meh. Deal is only 69% in-boundary. I'm sure Hardy will go over 50 percent in 5 years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the city is going to build a small school just to cater to IB families who don't want to go to school with OOB families? That is a crazy idea!

We proposed reducing enrollment at Hardy so that it could reach majority IB enrollment quickly, but that was a crazy idea as well.

The abbreviated version of this thread: Any proposal that results in a majority IB school for the families zoned for Hardy in the next few years is a crazy idea.

Here's a proposal that would work. IB families enroll in Hardy and then it will be a majority IB school. Oh my god, that's brilliant! And not crazy at all.

tsk tsk, it appears to me you didn't take the time to read all 97 pages of this thread before posting. How inconsiderate. Someone said that if all IB families attended Hardy instead of anything else, the school would still only be 30% IB, because it's a big school. Now, they might have pulled that number out of their butt, since there is a lot of farting on this thread, and very little data of any kind.

Here's a number: 55% That's the FARMs rate at Hardy:

Research establishes that most successful schools are those in which the middle class is
the majority. Success starts turning to failure, it is generally agreed, when the school
becomes 50% minority or low income. See All Together Now at 39. The Prospects
studies found that when half a student body is poor, then all students' achievement will be
depressed, and that when 75% is poor, then all students' achievement will be "seriously"
depressed. Prospects II at 12. Another expert has concluded that a district with over 60%
poor children "can no longer rely solely on its own internal efforts" to avoid failure.
Concentration of Poverty at 133. By comparison, RCSD's 90% poverty configuration
puts it well beyond even these ominous figures, into a level identified as "extreme
poverty." Id. at 134.9

http://www.prrac.org/pdf/annotated_bibliography_on...hool_poverty_concentration.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the city is going to build a small school just to cater to IB families who don't want to go to school with OOB families? That is a crazy idea!

We proposed reducing enrollment at Hardy so that it could reach majority IB enrollment quickly, but that was a crazy idea as well.

The abbreviated version of this thread: Any proposal that results in a majority IB school for the families zoned for Hardy in the next few years is a crazy idea.

Here's a proposal that would work. IB families enroll in Hardy and then it will be a majority IB school. Oh my god, that's brilliant! And not crazy at all.

No it wont. Hardy = "Second tier MS school for anyone in the city whose IB school is failing and is willing to commute for a shot at a decent education."

The current enrollment of 375 is arbitrary. The building can probably accommodate twice that. As the number of IB kids increases, the enrollment will increase as well so that OOB families have a shot at a decent school.

Meh. Deal is only 69% in-boundary. I'm sure Hardy will go over 50 percent in 5 years.

There's big difference between 69% and 13%. People have been predicting a surge in IB enrollment at Hardy for years...