So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So the city is going to build a small school just to cater to IB families who don't want to go to school with OOB families? That is a crazy idea!

We proposed reducing enrollment at Hardy so that it could reach majority IB enrollment quickly, but that was a crazy idea as well.

The abbreviated version of this thread: Any proposal that results in a majority IB school for the families zoned for Hardy in the next few years is a crazy idea.

It seems that the OOB community rejects getting rid of the uniforms as symbolic pandering to attract more IB families.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It would only exacerbate Wilson overcrowding, you can't build another middle school wotp.

I think it's quite clear that a second rigorous academic high school WOTP is needed also -- a restored "Western High School."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:How bad is Hardy really? If I'm not a racist and am OK with uniforms, wouldn't my kid get something good out of the smaller setting? Wilson seems like such a clamorous echo chamber.

Hardy would be great for your kid - as it was for mine - and will prepare him or her extremely well for Wilson - just like it did for mine.

It may prepare students adequately for DCPS. While there are many exceptions, of course, in general there is a discernible difference academically at Wilson between those students who went to Deal and those who went to Hardy.

Exactly . Keeping all things equal, i.e. taking students with the same SES, 9th grade math teachers at Wilson know that students from Hardy come with a stronger math background.

Quite the opposite. It's not just an academic difference. Many of the Wilson discipline problem students came out of Hardy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The IB parents who would like to go to Hardy, all the feeder elementaries, should start a group and meet frequently and come up with a proposal, and approach the principal and DCPS. It is ridiculous if the school is not serving the IB community. DCPS cannot build another school, but the existing school needs to make en effort to have all the IB families go, that should be a school's priority.

Yes, the principal should go door-to-door and get down on one knee and beg the IB families to enroll.

Announcing that Hardy is junking the school uniforms would be an effective start -- a break from the murky past as it were.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So the city is going to build a small school just to cater to IB families who don't want to go to school with OOB families? That is a crazy idea!

No, they just don't want to go to a mediocre middle school which lags far behind the other DC middle school WOTP. Hardy may be a welcome life boat for those whose local middle schools are much worse, but it seems like a distant also-ran compared to Alice Deal.

and compared to Latin and compare to BASIS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the city is going to build a small school just to cater to IB families who don't want to go to school with OOB families? That is a crazy idea!

No, they just don't want to go to a mediocre middle school which lags far behind the other DC middle school WOTP. Hardy may be a welcome life boat for those whose local middle schools are much worse, but it seems like a distant also-ran compared to Alice Deal.

and compared to Latin and compare to BASIS.

It's not easy getting a spot at Latin or Basis these days.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The IB parents who would like to go to Hardy, all the feeder elementaries, should start a group and meet frequently and come up with a proposal, and approach the principal and DCPS. It is ridiculous if the school is not serving the IB community. DCPS cannot build another school, but the existing school needs to make en effort to have all the IB families go, that should be a school's priority.

Yes, the principal should go door-to-door and get down on one knee and beg the IB families to enroll.

Don't worry. That ship has sailed. The principal didn't even both showing up for the Hardy info session at Mann this year. The OOB spots are safe.

Except for a token few, IB kids will keep going to privates or to charters like Latin and BASIS.

She did show up. Stop spreading false rumors. Thank you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the city is going to build a small school just to cater to IB families who don't want to go to school with OOB families? That is a crazy idea!

We proposed reducing enrollment at Hardy so that it could reach majority IB enrollment quickly, but that was a crazy idea as well.

The abbreviated version of this thread: Any proposal that results in a majority IB school for the families zoned for Hardy in the next few years is a crazy idea.

It seems that the OOB community rejects getting rid of the uniforms as symbolic pandering to attract more IB families.

The OOB community is

1. Not really a "community" - they are just parents who send their kids to school at Hardy. I know this will come as a shock, but there's not an organized group that meets to figure out how to keep IB families out of Hardy.
2. They have never been asked to get rid of the uniforms! Are you somehow under the impression that the inane comments on this board are filtered and somehow presented as an option to OOB families?

People - PLEASE STOP ACTING LIKE THERE IS AN ORGANIZED CABAL OF OOB FAMILIES AT HARDY TRYING TO KEEP IB FAMILIES OUT. There is not such a group. All there are at Hardy are parents who care about their kids and their school. They like it, they care about it, and they are happy to see it improve.

Thank you.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, I feel like Eaton parents had been sold a story about Hardy turning around, but it seems like unless the Principal wants to make that happen, it just won't happen. Oh well.

Here is an Eaton family who will be lotterying out this year in an attempt at a Deal feeder.

John Eaton was royally screwed in the whole school reassignment process. Mr Frumin, the ward 3 rep on the boundary advisory committee, conceded (or is "dismissed" a better word?) Eaton students as the "collateral damage" in the whole process.

Honest question.

How do you fix deal overcrowding in a way that does not cut down on the number of feeders? Or do Eaton families want Deal expanded?

Signed, parent living IB for Hardy who can't afford vacations or extras because of private school tuition.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the city is going to build a small school just to cater to IB families who don't want to go to school with OOB families? That is a crazy idea!

No, they just don't want to go to a mediocre middle school which lags far behind the other DC middle school WOTP. Hardy may be a welcome life boat for those whose local middle schools are much worse, but it seems like a distant also-ran compared to Alice Deal.

and compared to Latin and compare to BASIS.

It's not easy getting a spot at Latin or Basis these days.

Latin is hard to get into. BASIS is still pretty easy to get into, though.

Also, DC's charter law is so welcoming to charter operators that we should see more middle and high school charters here soon, especially if DCPS continues to provide only mediocre middle and high schools options for most middle class residents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, I feel like Eaton parents had been sold a story about Hardy turning around, but it seems like unless the Principal wants to make that happen, it just won't happen. Oh well.

Here is an Eaton family who will be lotterying out this year in an attempt at a Deal feeder.

John Eaton was royally screwed in the whole school reassignment process. Mr Frumin, the ward 3 rep on the boundary advisory committee, conceded (or is "dismissed" a better word?) Eaton students as the "collateral damage" in the whole process.

Honest question.

How do you fix deal overcrowding in a way that does not cut down on the number of feeders? Or do Eaton families want Deal expanded?

Signed, parent living IB for Hardy who can't afford vacations or extras because of private school tuition.

One way to fix Deal overcrowding woukd be to do a searching audit of the Maryland resident students who have gotten into Deal via feeder schools. You could probably contine to accommodate the DC graduates of Ohster and Eaton at Deal quite easily just by ferreting out the MD kids who are registered fraudulently.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How bad is Hardy really? If I'm not a racist and am OK with uniforms, wouldn't my kid get something good out of the smaller setting? Wilson seems like such a clamorous echo chamber.

Hardy would be great for your kid - as it was for mine - and will prepare him or her extremely well for Wilson - just like it did for mine.

It may prepare students adequately for DCPS. While there are many exceptions, of course, in general there is a discernible difference academically at Wilson between those students who went to Deal and those who went to Hardy.

Exactly . Keeping all things equal, i.e. taking students with the same SES, 9th grade math teachers at Wilson know that students from Hardy come with a stronger math background.

Quite the opposite. It's not just an academic difference. Many of the Wilson discipline problem students came out of Hardy.

Stop lying about this - it is not true. For example, the students recently arrested for robbery and assault came out of Deal

[Anonymous]

Have these students been expelled from Wilson by now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The IB parents who would like to go to Hardy, all the feeder elementaries, should start a group and meet frequently and come up with a proposal, and approach the principal and DCPS. It is ridiculous if the school is not serving the IB community. DCPS cannot build another school, but the existing school needs to make en effort to have all the IB families go, that should be a school's priority.

IB parents were doing that when my oldest started at a Hardy feeder in 2004 and they're doing it now. It didn't work then, it's not working yet now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The IB parents who would like to go to Hardy, all the feeder elementaries, should start a group and meet frequently and come up with a proposal, and approach the principal and DCPS. It is ridiculous if the school is not serving the IB community. DCPS cannot build another school, but the existing school needs to make en effort to have all the IB families go, that should be a school's priority.

IB parents were doing that when my oldest started at a Hardy feeder in 2004 and they're doing it now. It didn't work then, it's not working yet now.

Charter schools!