So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?

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What % IB is Hardy 6th grade?

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Anonymous wrote:Only 13% of Hardy students live in boundaries? That's quite a vote of confidence from the school's IB area!

Without knowing how large the IB population is relative to the capacity of the school it's really impossible to glean anything from the IB number.

It's a mistake to think that boundaries were laid out for some logical reason. They weren't. It's a mistake to assume that anything in DCPS was done for a logical reason, or even for any reason at all. An awful lot of stuff just happens.

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Anonymous wrote:So the city is going to build a small school just to cater to IB families who don't want to go to school with OOB families? That is a crazy idea!

We proposed reducing enrollment at Hardy so that it could reach majority IB enrollment quickly, but that was a crazy idea as well.

The abbreviated version of this thread: Any proposal that results in a majority IB school for the families zoned for Hardy in the next few years is a crazy idea.

Here's a proposal that would work. IB families enroll in Hardy and then it will be a majority IB school. Oh my god, that's brilliant! And not crazy at all.

No it wont. Hardy = "Second tier MS school for anyone in the city whose IB school is failing and is willing to commute for a shot at a decent education."

The current enrollment of 375 is arbitrary. The building can probably accommodate twice that. As the number of IB kids increases, the enrollment will increase as well so that OOB families have a shot at a decent school.

That's exactly what happened at Deal and Wilson. DCPS has shown much more willingness to expand and crowd than to limit OOB enrollment.

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Anonymous wrote:So the city is going to build a small school just to cater to IB families who don't want to go to school with OOB families? That is a crazy idea!

We proposed reducing enrollment at Hardy so that it could reach majority IB enrollment quickly, but that was a crazy idea as well.

The abbreviated version of this thread: Any proposal that results in a majority IB school for the families zoned for Hardy in the next few years is a crazy idea.

Here's a proposal that would work. IB families enroll in Hardy and then it will be a majority IB school. Oh my god, that's brilliant! And not crazy at all.

No it wont. Hardy = "Second tier MS school for anyone in the city whose IB school is failing and is willing to commute for a shot at a decent education."

The current enrollment of 375 is arbitrary. The building can probably accommodate twice that. As the number of IB kids increases, the enrollment will increase as well so that OOB families have a shot at a decent school.

Meh. Deal is only 69% in-boundary. I'm sure Hardy will go over 50 percent in 5 years.

There's big difference between 69% and 13%. People have been predicting a surge in IB enrollment at Hardy for years...

Deal has a much bigger feeder population relative to its capacity.

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Anonymous wrote:The IB parents who would like to go to Hardy, all the feeder elementaries, should start a group and meet frequently and come up with a proposal, and approach the principal and DCPS. It is ridiculous if the school is not serving the IB community. DCPS cannot build another school, but the existing school needs to make en effort to have all the IB families go, that should be a school's priority.

Yes, the principal should go door-to-door and get down on one knee and beg the IB families to enroll.

No need for that. We are coming in a few years.j\ Just not old enough right now.

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Anonymous wrote:So the city is going to build a small school just to cater to IB families who don't want to go to school with OOB families? That is a crazy idea!

We proposed reducing enrollment at Hardy so that it could reach majority IB enrollment quickly, but that was a crazy idea as well.

The abbreviated version of this thread: Any proposal that results in a majority IB school for the families zoned for Hardy in the next few years is a crazy idea.

Here's a proposal that would work. IB families enroll in Hardy and then it will be a majority IB school. Oh my god, that's brilliant! And not crazy at all.

No it wont. Hardy = "Second tier MS school for anyone in the city whose IB school is failing and is willing to commute for a shot at a decent education."

The current enrollment of 375 is arbitrary. The building can probably accommodate twice that. As the number of IB kids increases, the enrollment will increase as well so that OOB families have a shot at a decent school.

Meh. Deal is only 69% in-boundary. I'm sure Hardy will go over 50 percent in 5 years.

There's big difference between 69% and 13%. People have been predicting a surge in IB enrollment at Hardy for years...

Deal has a much bigger feeder population relative to its capacity.

True, but to be fair, they're not wealthy. Nobody desires to send their children into a 1300 strong Lord-of-the-Flies school when they have better choices. Obviously private school is more desirable. Most Deal-zoned families can't afford something better. Most Hardy-zoned families can. It's that simple.

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I don't think it's "that simple".

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Many, many very good middle schools have 1000+ students.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the city is going to build a small school just to cater to IB families who don't want to go to school with OOB families? That is a crazy idea!

We proposed reducing enrollment at Hardy so that it could reach majority IB enrollment quickly, but that was a crazy idea as well.

The abbreviated version of this thread: Any proposal that results in a majority IB school for the families zoned for Hardy in the next few years is a crazy idea.

Here's a proposal that would work. IB families enroll in Hardy and then it will be a majority IB school. Oh my god, that's brilliant! And not crazy at all.

No it wont. Hardy = "Second tier MS school for anyone in the city whose IB school is failing and is willing to commute for a shot at a decent education."

The current enrollment of 375 is arbitrary. The building can probably accommodate twice that.. As the number of IB kids increases, the enrollment will increase as well so that OOB families have a shot at a decent school.

That's exactly what happened at Deal and Wilson. DCPS has shown much more willingness to expand and crowd than to limit OOB enrollment.

The Hardy facility can NOT accommodate a doubling of enrollment. The only athletic space today is a puny pony-league sized field next to the parking lot. Pathetic. Besides, if they increased the enrollment significantly, Hardy would lose its only real advantage which is its relatively small size.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the city is going to build a small school just to cater to IB families who don't want to go to school with OOB families? That is a crazy idea!

We proposed reducing enrollment at Hardy so that it could reach majority IB enrollment quickly, but that was a crazy idea as well.

The abbreviated version of this thread: Any proposal that results in a majority IB school for the families zoned for Hardy in the next few years is a crazy idea.

Here's a proposal that would work. IB families enroll in Hardy and then it will be a majority IB school. Oh my god, that's brilliant! And not crazy at all.

No it wont. Hardy = "Second tier MS school for anyone in the city whose IB school is failing and is willing to commute for a shot at a decent education."

The current enrollment of 375 is arbitrary. The building can probably accommodate twice that. As the number of IB kids increases, the enrollment will increase as well so that OOB families have a shot at a decent school.

Meh. Deal is only 69% in-boundary. I'm sure Hardy will go over 50 percent in 5 years.

There's big difference between 69% and 13%. People have been predicting a surge in IB enrollment at Hardy for years...

Deal has a much bigger feeder population relative to its capacity.

True, but to be fair, they're not wealthy. Nobody desires to send their children into a 1300 strong Lord-of-the-Flies school when they have better choices. Obviously private school is more desirable. Most Deal-zoned families can't afford something better. Most Hardy-zoned families can. It's that simple.

No, it's more simple. When the dogs don't like the dog food, it's time to change the recipe. Clearly , Hardy has a major problem with the population that it is supposed to serve. It's past time for a radical restructuring by DCPS so that Hardy is responsive to the needs of its target community.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the city is going to build a small school just to cater to IB families who don't want to go to school with OOB families? That is a crazy idea!

We proposed reducing enrollment at Hardy so that it could reach majority IB enrollment quickly, but that was a crazy idea as well.

The abbreviated version of this thread: Any proposal that results in a majority IB school for the families zoned for Hardy in the next few years is a crazy idea.

Here's a proposal that would work. IB families enroll in Hardy and then it will be a majority IB school. Oh my god, that's brilliant! And not crazy at all.

No it wont. Hardy = "Second tier MS school for anyone in the city whose IB school is failing and is willing to commute for a shot at a decent education."

The current enrollment of 375 is arbitrary. The building can probably accommodate twice that. As the number of IB kids increases, the enrollment will increase as well so that OOB families have a shot at a decent school.

Meh. Deal is only 69% in-boundary. I'm sure Hardy will go over 50 percent in 5 years.

And it would be higher if DCPS weren't actually removing whole IB neighborhoods from the Deal feeder System, like Cleveland Park and Woodley Park. The reality is that Deal is oversubscribed by its surrounding community and Hardy is basically shunned.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the city is going to build a small school just to cater to IB families who don't want to go to school with OOB families? That is a crazy idea!

We proposed reducing enrollment at Hardy so that it could reach majority IB enrollment quickly, but that was a crazy idea as well.

The abbreviated version of this thread: Any proposal that results in a majority IB school for the families zoned for Hardy in the next few years is a crazy idea.

Here's a proposal that would work. IB families enroll in Hardy and then it will be a majority IB school. Oh my god, that's brilliant! And not crazy at all.

No it wont. Hardy = "Second tier MS school for anyone in the city whose IB school is failing and is willing to commute for a shot at a decent education."

The current enrollment of 375 is arbitrary. The building can probably accommodate twice that.. As the number of IB kids increases, the enrollment will increase as well so that OOB families have a shot at a decent school.

That's exactly what happened at Deal and Wilson. DCPS has shown much more willingness to expand and crowd than to limit OOB enrollment.

The Hardy facility can NOT accommodate a doubling of enrollment. The only athletic space today is a puny pony-league sized field next to the parking lot. Pathetic. Besides, if they increased the enrollment significantly, Hardy would lose its only real advantage which is its relatively small size.

Shut up! You have never visited the school obviously, misinformed troll!!

The truth is that at Hardy, 6th-7th-8th grades have 1 HOUR OF PE EACH AND EVERY DAY, while at Deal they have PE ONLY FOR ONE TERM, DUE TO OVERCROWDING .So what is really pathetic is to have a relatively larger outdoor space (due to the almost suburban nature of the Deal location , compared to the historical district setting of Hardy in Georgetown) and not to be able to use it!!!!....

The school has basketball, football, soccer, baseball, softball, cross country & running, tennis, volleyball and rowing teams among others. See http://www.hardyms.org/ath.jsp This year we established also ski team (they had the first trip just one week ago) as well as swimming team developmental. The huge indoor facilities (as all of those who have visited the school know), the Jelleff center and fields next door and the small enrollment number allow for space and time for daily practice, during school hours and after-school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the city is going to build a small school just to cater to IB families who don't want to go to school with OOB families? That is a crazy idea!

We proposed reducing enrollment at Hardy so that it could reach majority IB enrollment quickly, but that was a crazy idea as well.

The abbreviated version of this thread: Any proposal that results in a majority IB school for the families zoned for Hardy in the next few years is a crazy idea.

Here's a proposal that would work. IB families enroll in Hardy and then it will be a majority IB school. Oh my god, that's brilliant! And not crazy at all.

No it wont. Hardy = "Second tier MS school for anyone in the city whose IB school is failing and is willing to commute for a shot at a decent education."

The current enrollment of 375 is arbitrary. The building can probably accommodate twice that. As the number of IB kids increases, the enrollment will increase as well so that OOB families have a shot at a decent school.

Meh. Deal is only 69% in-boundary. I'm sure Hardy will go over 50 percent in 5 years.

There's big difference between 69% and 13%. People have been predicting a surge in IB enrollment at Hardy for years...

Deal has a much bigger feeder population relative to its capacity.

True, but to be fair, they're not wealthy. Nobody desires to send their children into a 1300 strong Lord-of-the-Flies school when they have better choices. Obviously private school is more desirable. Most Deal-zoned families can't afford something better. Most Hardy-zoned families can. It's that simple.

No, it's more simple. When the dogs don't like the dog food, it's time to change the recipe. Clearly , Hardy has a major problem with the population that it is supposed to serve. It's past time for a radical restructuring by DCPS so that Hardy is responsive to the needs of its target community.

They have changed the recipe. The dogs are coming. We're IB Stoddert and plan to be at Hardy in 2 years.

[Anonymous]

I think Principal Pride is still fiddling with the recipe, or at least still cooking the enrollment numbers. After much ballyhoo about supposedly improving IB enrollment, Hardy has gone radio silent and not released the actual numbers for this year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the city is going to build a small school just to cater to IB families who don't want to go to school with OOB families? That is a crazy idea!

We proposed reducing enrollment at Hardy so that it could reach majority IB enrollment quickly, but that was a crazy idea as well.

The abbreviated version of this thread: Any proposal that results in a majority IB school for the families zoned for Hardy in the next few years is a crazy idea.

Here's a proposal that would work. IB families enroll in Hardy and then it will be a majority IB school. Oh my god, that's brilliant! And not crazy at all.

No it wont. Hardy = "Second tier MS school for anyone in the city whose IB school is failing and is willing to commute for a shot at a decent education."

The current enrollment of 375 is arbitrary. The building can probably accommodate twice that.. As the number of IB kids increases, the enrollment will increase as well so that OOB families have a shot at a decent school.

That's exactly what happened at Deal and Wilson. DCPS has shown much more willingness to expand and crowd than to limit OOB enrollment.

The Hardy facility can NOT accommodate a doubling of enrollment. The only athletic space today is a puny pony-league sized field next to the parking lot. Pathetic. Besides, if they increased the enrollment significantly, Hardy would lose its only real advantage which is its relatively small size.

Shut up! You have never visited the school obviously, misinformed troll!!

The truth is that at Hardy, 6th-7th-8th grades have 1 HOUR OF PE EACH AND EVERY DAY, while at Deal they have PE ONLY FOR ONE TERM, DUE TO OVERCROWDING .So what is really pathetic is to have a relatively larger outdoor space (due to the almost suburban nature of the Deal location , compared to the historical district setting of Hardy in Georgetown) and not to be able to use it!!!!....

The school has basketball, football, soccer, baseball, softball, cross country & running, tennis, volleyball and rowing teams among others. See http://www.hardyms.org/ath.jsp This year we established also ski team (they had the first trip just one week ago) as well as swimming team developmental. The huge indoor facilities (as all of those who have visited the school know), the Jelleff center and fields next door and the small enrollment number allow for space and time for daily practice, during school hours and after-school.

I call BS. It's frustrating because Jelleff is practically across the street from Hardy, but alas Jelleff is off limits for Hardy team use. Maret School paid a share of the Jelleff field renovations, and received an exclusive use right during after school practice and game hours.