2021 VA Governors race

[Anonymous]

I am a life long D and I will vote McAuliffe, however, I am not out stomping for candidates anymore. The D FCPS school board destroyed my faith in the D party for the most part. I voted for them (except Omeish), so I have no one to blame but myself - but they really did me dirty with no in person school and now I don't know who I can ever really trust to make good, reasoneed, and non-political decisions when the going is tough. If Youngkin wins, I think it will be because the Ds under-estimated just how much women / moms in particular are still reeling from the school building closures.

The Unlikely Issue Shaping the Virginia Governor’s Race: Schools

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/12/us/politics/virginia-governor-republicans-schools.html

And to those talking about abortion - yes, I am pro-choice - but I am done having kids. What affects me now - on a daily basis - is my kids in school and I probably will put my current needs ahead of what I support in theory. Most people are probably the same way. I think the Ds need to realize this if they want to win.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Which candidate will stop Fairfax county health dept from quarantining healthy kids for 14 days after an ‘exposure’ with no ability to exit quarantine with a negative test? That’s who I will vote for.

Youngkin

if we had fewer republican governors, president, and less right-wing, republica supporting TV hosts and news outlets we would not still be in this s$it with raging virus and facing a winter with 70millions of unvaccinated idiots ready to start the next wave

Exactly. We’ve had a vaccine for 10 months now. Everyone should be vaccinated by now.

WTF is wrong with Republicans trying to dissuade people from getting vaccinated. Why are they dragging this on? They are using this as a political game? We are ALL ready to move on. Why has the GOP been politicizing a freaking pandemic? It’s disgusting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a life long D and I will vote McAuliffe, however, I am not out stomping for candidates anymore. The D FCPS school board destroyed my faith in the D party for the most part. I voted for them (except Omeish), so I have no one to blame but myself - but they really did me dirty with no in person school and now I don't know who I can ever really trust to make good, reasoneed, and non-political decisions when the going is tough. If Youngkin wins, I think it will be because the Ds under-estimated just how much women / moms in particular are still reeling from the school building closures.

The Unlikely Issue Shaping the Virginia Governor’s Race: Schools

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/12/us/politics/virginia-governor-republicans-schools.html

And to those talking about abortion - yes, I am pro-choice - but I am done having kids. What affects me now - on a daily basis - is my kids in school and I probably will put my current needs ahead of what I support in theory. Most people are probably the same way. I think the Ds need to realize this if they want to win.

How is “school closures” even a concern now in Oct 2021?

The D governor and D general assembly already mandated in-person learning. They fully support it.

Delta is passing and numbers will continue to drop. We may see another small surge this winter but we are on the tail end here.

Vaccine for 5-11 is imminent.

It’s just not a rational concern at this point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Which candidate will stop Fairfax county health dept from quarantining healthy kids for 14 days after an ‘exposure’ with no ability to exit quarantine with a negative test? That’s who I will vote for.

Youngkin

if we had less republican governors, president, and less right-wing, republica supporting TV hosts and news outlets we would not still be in this s$it with raging virus and facing a winter with 70millions of unvaccinated idiots ready to start the next wave

Explain Michigan, genius.

Have you not learned that the virus moves in 2-month waves? Vaccinated people are also getting the virus.
I know this may be hard for you to accept, but we need to learn to live with it. And, that doesn't mean locking down, masking up and preventing people from working and living because they won't get the jab.

Colorado too.

[Anonymous]

And distance learning wasn’t a “political decision”. Last fall, we didn’t have vaccines and we knew there was going to be a fall/winter surge. Which we had - and it was huge. But, after adults were vaccinated, kids were back on the classroom - limited by CDC guidelines.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Which candidate will stop Fairfax county health dept from quarantining healthy kids for 14 days after an ‘exposure’ with no ability to exit quarantine with a negative test? That’s who I will vote for.

Youngkin

if we had fewer republican governors, president, and less right-wing, republica supporting TV hosts and news outlets we would not still be in this s$it with raging virus and facing a winter with 70millions of unvaccinated idiots ready to start the next wave

Exactly. We’ve had a vaccine for 10 months now. Everyone should be vaccinated by now.

WTF is wrong with Republicans trying to dissuade people from getting vaccinated. Why are they dragging this on? They are using this as a political game? We are ALL ready to move on. Why has the GOP been politicizing a freaking pandemic? It’s disgusting.

You do understand that vaccine hesitancy is not just a Republican thing. Minorities and the young are large groups that are hesitant. All Republicans I know are 100 percent vaccinated.
The anti vax crowd out west are definitely not a bunch of Republicans.

small paragraph from New York Times



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“I’m really cautious about what goes into my body.”

“Until the F.D.A. fully approves the vaccine, I feel like it’s just not a good idea.”

“I don’t believe things should be forced on people when we’ve been telling them we’re going to follow the science.”

Americans cite a range of reasons for not getting a Covid-19 vaccine. Understanding who the unvaccinated are and what might persuade them will be crucial to fighting the Delta variant.
Who Are the Unvaccinated in America? There’s No One Answer.
One segment of people who have avoided shots is vehemently opposed to the idea. But there is a second group, surveys suggest, that is still deciding.



By Julie Bosman, Jan Hoffman, Margot Sanger-Katz and Tim Arango
Published July 31, 2021
Updated Aug. 4, 2021
As coronavirus cases rise across the United States, the fight against the pandemic is focused on an estimated 93 million people who are eligible for shots but have chosen not to get them. These are the Americans who are most vulnerable to serious illness from the highly contagious Delta variant and most likely to carry the virus, spreading it further.

It turns out, though, that this is not a single set of Americans, but in many ways two.

In one group are those who say they are adamant in their refusal of the coronavirus vaccines; they include a mix of people but tend to be disproportionately white, rural, evangelical Christian and politically conservative, surveys show.

In the other are those who say they are open to getting a shot but have been putting it off or want to wait and see before making a decision; they are a broad range of people, but tend to be a more diverse and urban group, including many younger people, Black and Latino Americans, and Democrats.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Which candidate will stop Fairfax county health dept from quarantining healthy kids for 14 days after an ‘exposure’ with no ability to exit quarantine with a negative test? That’s who I will vote for.

Youngkin

if we had less republican governors, president, and less right-wing, republica supporting TV hosts and news outlets we would not still be in this s$it with raging virus and facing a winter with 70millions of unvaccinated idiots ready to start the next wave

Explain Michigan, genius.

Have you not learned that the virus moves in 2-month waves? Vaccinated people are also getting the virus.
I know this may be hard for you to accept, but we need to learn to live with it. And, that doesn't mean locking down, masking up and preventing people from working and living because they won't get the jab.

Colorado too.

There are a lot of republicans in MI and CO. They are seeing states.

They will do stupid things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a life long D and I will vote McAuliffe, however, I am not out stomping for candidates anymore. The D FCPS school board destroyed my faith in the D party for the most part. I voted for them (except Omeish), so I have no one to blame but myself - but they really did me dirty with no in person school and now I don't know who I can ever really trust to make good, reasoneed, and non-political decisions when the going is tough. If Youngkin wins, I think it will be because the Ds under-estimated just how much women / moms in particular are still reeling from the school building closures.

The Unlikely Issue Shaping the Virginia Governor’s Race: Schools

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/12/us/politics/virginia-governor-republicans-schools.html

And to those talking about abortion - yes, I am pro-choice - but I am done having kids. What affects me now - on a daily basis - is my kids in school and I probably will put my current needs ahead of what I support in theory. Most people are probably the same way. I think the Ds need to realize this if they want to win.

How is “school closures” even a concern now in Oct 2021?

The D governor and D general assembly already mandated in-person learning. They fully support it.

Delta is passing and numbers will continue to drop. We may see another small surge this winter but we are on the tail end here.

Vaccine for 5-11 is imminent.

It’s just not a rational concern at this point.

I think that's exactly where the Ds are thinking wrong. We are so shaken to the core by what happened with school last year - many will do whatever they can to avoid it again. The pandemic is unpredictable. We will see who wins - and then we will see whether I'm right. No point arguing about it now.

I have a friend who is independent and she's voting R for Gov. on the sole issue of schools being open without guessing on it. We will see how many more are like her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Which candidate will stop Fairfax county health dept from quarantining healthy kids for 14 days after an ‘exposure’ with no ability to exit quarantine with a negative test? That’s who I will vote for.

Youngkin

if we had fewer republican governors, president, and less right-wing, republica supporting TV hosts and news outlets we would not still be in this s$it with raging virus and facing a winter with 70millions of unvaccinated idiots ready to start the next wave

Exactly. We’ve had a vaccine for 10 months now. Everyone should be vaccinated by now.

WTF is wrong with Republicans trying to dissuade people from getting vaccinated. Why are they dragging this on? They are using this as a political game? We are ALL ready to move on. Why has the GOP been politicizing a freaking pandemic? It’s disgusting.

You do understand that vaccine hesitancy is not just a Republican thing. Minorities and the young are large groups that are hesitant. All Republicans I know are 100 percent vaccinated.
The anti vax crowd out west are definitely not a bunch of Republicans.

small paragraph from New York Times



photophotophotophoto
“I’m really cautious about what goes into my body.”

“Until the F.D.A. fully approves the vaccine, I feel like it’s just not a good idea.”

“I don’t believe things should be forced on people when we’ve been telling them we’re going to follow the science.”

Americans cite a range of reasons for not getting a Covid-19 vaccine. Understanding who the unvaccinated are and what might persuade them will be crucial to fighting the Delta variant.
Who Are the Unvaccinated in America? There’s No One Answer.
One segment of people who have avoided shots is vehemently opposed to the idea. But there is a second group, surveys suggest, that is still deciding.



By Julie Bosman, Jan Hoffman, Margot Sanger-Katz and Tim Arango
Published July 31, 2021
Updated Aug. 4, 2021
As coronavirus cases rise across the United States, the fight against the pandemic is focused on an estimated 93 million people who are eligible for shots but have chosen not to get them. These are the Americans who are most vulnerable to serious illness from the highly contagious Delta variant and most likely to carry the virus, spreading it further.

It turns out, though, that this is not a single set of Americans, but in many ways two.

In one group are those who say they are adamant in their refusal of the coronavirus vaccines; they include a mix of people but tend to be disproportionately white, rural, evangelical Christian and politically conservative, surveys show.

In the other are those who say they are open to getting a shot but have been putting it off or want to wait and see before making a decision; they are a broad range of people, but tend to be a more diverse and urban group, including many younger people, Black and Latino Americans, and Democrats.

That doesn’t excuse Rs from dissuading people from getting vaccinated.

We could have been focusing efforts on education and outreach instead playing these dumb a$$ political games.

[Anonymous]

Also - SB1303 is only for one year so it's no long term guarantee.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a life long D and I will vote McAuliffe, however, I am not out stomping for candidates anymore. The D FCPS school board destroyed my faith in the D party for the most part. I voted for them (except Omeish), so I have no one to blame but myself - but they really did me dirty with no in person school and now I don't know who I can ever really trust to make good, reasoneed, and non-political decisions when the going is tough. If Youngkin wins, I think it will be because the Ds under-estimated just how much women / moms in particular are still reeling from the school building closures.

The Unlikely Issue Shaping the Virginia Governor’s Race: Schools

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/12/us/politics/virginia-governor-republicans-schools.html

And to those talking about abortion - yes, I am pro-choice - but I am done having kids. What affects me now - on a daily basis - is my kids in school and I probably will put my current needs ahead of what I support in theory. Most people are probably the same way. I think the Ds need to realize this if they want to win.

How is “school closures” even a concern now in Oct 2021?

The D governor and D general assembly already mandated in-person learning. They fully support it.

Delta is passing and numbers will continue to drop. We may see another small surge this winter but we are on the tail end here.

Vaccine for 5-11 is imminent.

It’s just not a rational concern at this point.

I think that's exactly where the Ds are thinking wrong. We are so shaken to the core by what happened with school last year - many will do whatever they can to avoid it again. The pandemic is unpredictable. We will see who wins - and then we will see whether I'm right. No point arguing about it now.

I have a friend who is independent and she's voting R for Gov. on the sole issue of schools being open without guessing on it. We will see how many more are like her.

I don’t disagree that it will drive some people’s decision.

It’s just not rational at all.

It’s a lose-lose choice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Also - SB1303 is only for one year so it's no long term guarantee.

You mean the mandate from the D governor and D general assembly?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a life long D and I will vote McAuliffe, however, I am not out stomping for candidates anymore. The D FCPS school board destroyed my faith in the D party for the most part. I voted for them (except Omeish), so I have no one to blame but myself - but they really did me dirty with no in person school and now I don't know who I can ever really trust to make good, reasoneed, and non-political decisions when the going is tough. If Youngkin wins, I think it will be because the Ds under-estimated just how much women / moms in particular are still reeling from the school building closures.

The Unlikely Issue Shaping the Virginia Governor’s Race: Schools

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/12/us/politics/virginia-governor-republicans-schools.html

And to those talking about abortion - yes, I am pro-choice - but I am done having kids. What affects me now - on a daily basis - is my kids in school and I probably will put my current needs ahead of what I support in theory. Most people are probably the same way. I think the Ds need to realize this if they want to win.

How is “school closures” even a concern now in Oct 2021?

The D governor and D general assembly already mandated in-person learning. They fully support it.

Delta is passing and numbers will continue to drop. We may see another small surge this winter but we are on the tail end here.

Vaccine for 5-11 is imminent.

It’s just not a rational concern at this point.

I think that's exactly where the Ds are thinking wrong. We are so shaken to the core by what happened with school last year - many will do whatever they can to avoid it again. The pandemic is unpredictable. We will see who wins - and then we will see whether I'm right. No point arguing about it now.

I have a friend who is independent and she's voting R for Gov. on the sole issue of schools being open without guessing on it. We will see how many more are like her.

I don’t disagree that it will drive some people’s decision.

It’s just not rational at all.

It’s a lose-lose choice.

I'm a working mom & I do think it's rational fwiw. As far as I can recall - no decision any politician has made has affected and upended my day to day life as much as the school closure for a year. I don't really have any complaints about Northam's handling of the pandemic - except that I think when he allowed schools to be open in fall 2020 under his guidelines - he rather should have mandated it.
Do more people want an eventual end to masks in school or not? Do more people want vaccine mandates or not want vaccine mandates? That's what this election is going to be a referendum on. It will be interesting to see what happens.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also - SB1303 is only for one year so it's no long term guarantee.

You mean the mandate from the D governor and D general assembly?

I know it - it's the only thing keeping me in the D party.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Which candidate will stop Fairfax county health dept from quarantining healthy kids for 14 days after an ‘exposure’ with no ability to exit quarantine with a negative test? That’s who I will vote for.

Youngkin

if we had fewer republican governors, president, and less right-wing, republica supporting TV hosts and news outlets we would not still be in this s$it with raging virus and facing a winter with 70millions of unvaccinated idiots ready to start the next wave

Exactly. We’ve had a vaccine for 10 months now. Everyone should be vaccinated by now.

WTF is wrong with Republicans trying to dissuade people from getting vaccinated. Why are they dragging this on? They are using this as a political game? We are ALL ready to move on. Why has the GOP been politicizing a freaking pandemic? It’s disgusting.

You do understand that vaccine hesitancy is not just a Republican thing. Minorities and the young are large groups that are hesitant. All Republicans I know are 100 percent vaccinated.
The anti vax crowd out west are definitely not a bunch of Republicans.

small paragraph from New York Times



photophotophotophoto
“I’m really cautious about what goes into my body.”

“Until the F.D.A. fully approves the vaccine, I feel like it’s just not a good idea.”

“I don’t believe things should be forced on people when we’ve been telling them we’re going to follow the science.”

Americans cite a range of reasons for not getting a Covid-19 vaccine. Understanding who the unvaccinated are and what might persuade them will be crucial to fighting the Delta variant.
Who Are the Unvaccinated in America? There’s No One Answer.
One segment of people who have avoided shots is vehemently opposed to the idea. But there is a second group, surveys suggest, that is still deciding.



By Julie Bosman, Jan Hoffman, Margot Sanger-Katz and Tim Arango
Published July 31, 2021
Updated Aug. 4, 2021
As coronavirus cases rise across the United States, the fight against the pandemic is focused on an estimated 93 million people who are eligible for shots but have chosen not to get them. These are the Americans who are most vulnerable to serious illness from the highly contagious Delta variant and most likely to carry the virus, spreading it further.

It turns out, though, that this is not a single set of Americans, but in many ways two.

In one group are those who say they are adamant in their refusal of the coronavirus vaccines; they include a mix of people but tend to be disproportionately white, rural, evangelical Christian and politically conservative, surveys show.

In the other are those who say they are open to getting a shot but have been putting it off or want to wait and see before making a decision; they are a broad range of people, but tend to be a more diverse and urban group, including many younger people, Black and Latino Americans, and Democrats.

That doesn’t excuse Rs from dissuading people from getting vaccinated.

We could have been focusing efforts on education and outreach instead playing these dumb a$$ political games.

Ah.. R,s fault for dissuading minorities. If this forum has taught as anything it has taught us that nobody listens to the other side.