Savannah Guthrie’s mom is missing, suspect kidnapping

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Anonymous wrote:Can everyone stop saying “million dollar home” like that means something any more. I live in a 1992 4br colonial with zero updates other than paint that is worth “a million dollars.” I assure you we are not living large over here.

What do you think happens when that house is sold? There’s no 6 figures mortgage on it.

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It seems like this was a coordinated effort to get ransom from the family. They knew Savannah is wealthy. I suspect that the mother died very soon after they captured her she’s 84 and incredibly frail. It is not a reach to think that this would be so upsetting she could have heart failure.

They didn’t account for that and now they’ve lost all their cards. Without proof of life, they can’t really get the ransom they wanted and they can’t exactly keep a dead body around most likely. They probably thought they could be on the move with her and now they have a dead body. It’s possible the easiest thing to do was just to try to destroy it and get rid of it and get as far away as possible. So they’ve dropped the ransom idea and are just on the run.

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody this old and disabled should be living alone in a relatively huge million dollar home. They are a sitting duck for opportunistic violent criminals, financial scams, and killing themselves in a fall and dying in agony.

Yes, a massive 3,000 square foot home. People get to live where they want to. Family helps, caregivers help. This is an exceedingly rare thing to happen hence the news about. Millions of elderly people live just fine on their own.

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody this old and disabled should be living alone in a relatively huge million dollar home. They are a sitting duck for opportunistic violent criminals, financial scams, and killing themselves in a fall and dying in agony.

Yes, a massive 3,000 square foot home. People get to live where they want to. Family helps, caregivers help. This is an exceedingly rare thing to happen hence the news about. Millions of elderly people live just fine on their own.

No, millions of single women in their mid 80s with heart issues and limited mobility are not living alone in a 3000 square foot home set back from the road on a fairly large property with no active security system or caregiver.

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody this old and disabled should be living alone in a relatively huge million dollar home. They are a sitting duck for opportunistic violent criminals, financial scams, and killing themselves in a fall and dying in agony.

Yes, a massive 3,000 square foot home. People get to live where they want to. Family helps, caregivers help. This is an exceedingly rare thing to happen hence the news about. Millions of elderly people live just fine on their own.

No, millions of single women in their mid 80s with heart issues and limited mobility are not living alone in a 3000 square foot home set back from the road on a fairly large property with no active security system or caregiver.

She had nearby family. She was a lot better off than many women. Until the unthinkable happened.

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody this old and disabled should be living alone in a relatively huge million dollar home. They are a sitting duck for opportunistic violent criminals, financial scams, and killing themselves in a fall and dying in agony.

Yes, a massive 3,000 square foot home. People get to live where they want to. Family helps, caregivers help. This is an exceedingly rare thing to happen hence the news about. Millions of elderly people live just fine on their own.

No, millions of single women in their mid 80s with heart issues and limited mobility are not living alone in a 3000 square foot home set back from the road on a fairly large property with no active security system or caregiver.

Only the hardest headed ones with a relative nearby are doing something similar.

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody this old and disabled should be living alone in a relatively huge million dollar home. They are a sitting duck for opportunistic violent criminals, financial scams, and killing themselves in a fall and dying in agony.

Yes, a massive 3,000 square foot home. People get to live where they want to. Family helps, caregivers help. This is an exceedingly rare thing to happen hence the news about. Millions of elderly people live just fine on their own.

No, millions of single women in their mid 80s with heart issues and limited mobility are not living alone in a 3000 square foot home set back from the road on a fairly large property with no active security system or caregiver.

You might be right. It’s certainly not what I’d want for my mom. But (1) barring disability, individuals have autonomy over how they live, even in their 80s and (2) this feels like not the right time or place to have this conversation, since there’s a woman missing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She sounds different today like she still believes her mother is alive.

I don’t understand the necessity of these public videos. Can’t she just pay the ransom to the believed captor in private?

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Anonymous wrote:She sounds different today like she still believes her mother is alive.

I don’t understand the necessity of these public videos. Can’t she just pay the ransom to the believed captor in private?

They are likely fake.

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Anonymous wrote:She sounds different today like she still believes her mother is alive.

I don’t understand the necessity of these public videos. Can’t she just pay the ransom to the believed captor in private?

It’s pretty clear there is no believed captured. The latest video shows that the police have totally bungled this. She’s asking for people all around the country for tips - not a good sign nine days into the investigation.

I think Nancy is unfortunately, most likely dead and the kidnappers may have moved on and are now just focused on not getting caught versus a ransom.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:She sounds different today like she still believes her mother is alive.

I don’t understand the necessity of these public videos. Can’t she just pay the ransom to the believed captor in private?

I suspect whoever did this has some narcissistic tendencies and wants these public videos. Perhaps it's a power play for someone mentally ill. Savannah is at the person's mercy focused completely on negotiating. The person may have an obsession with Silence of the Lambs and could have requested the phrase in the former video. You'd have to be psycho to do this with an 80-something year old woman. Savannah is playing along because that is the experts tell her to do.

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody this old and disabled should be living alone in a relatively huge million dollar home. They are a sitting duck for opportunistic violent criminals, financial scams, and killing themselves in a fall and dying in agony.

Yes, a massive 3,000 square foot home. People get to live where they want to. Family helps, caregivers help. This is an exceedingly rare thing to happen hence the news about. Millions of elderly people live just fine on their own.

No, millions of single women in their mid 80s with heart issues and limited mobility are not living alone in a 3000 square foot home set back from the road on a fairly large property with no active security system or caregiver.

You might be right. It’s certainly not what I’d want for my mom. But (1) barring disability, individuals have autonomy over how they live, even in their 80s and (2) this feels like not the right time or place to have this conversation, since there’s a woman missing.

It can be a learning lesson.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can everyone stop saying “million dollar home” like that means something any more. I live in a 1992 4br colonial with zero updates other than paint that is worth “a million dollars.” I assure you we are not living large over here.

No, I will not stop saying a fact. A disabled widow in their 80s living in a large million dollar home on a desolated property is a recipe for disaster. Do you have any comprehension of what this sort of large property and a paid off million dollar home looks like to someone who makes minimum wage? Now think about all the delivery drivers, handy men, landscapers, home health aides, and various nomadic criminals lurking around. Even just indirectly workers mentioning how a certain nice house they visited has this lonely crippled old lady living alone. That's all it takes.

[Anonymous]

Do the people in high-stakes situations like these usually get caught? I know the unsolved murder rate is quite high, but on one hand there seem to be so many resources being poured into the case, while on the other, local police usually aren't very bright.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it’s odd an elderly woman living in a large house alone (and the mother of a celebrity) wouldn’t have a better security system? It sounds like there was a barely functioning ring doorbell and something that let them know ‘approximately’ when the garage was closed.

I’m a nobody but I have a system that is much more precise than that - it at least would be able to tell me the exact time a person was on my driveway; what time they were at the door; and what time the door was opened, with supporting video that goes to an app.

+1 She did not have enough supports in place for someone of her age and health issues living alone on that property. .

Even if true, what does that have to do with her being kidnapped??? The elderly don't get support to deter kidnappers, as far as I know.

All this says is nobody should sleep alone. That's not really practical to prevent this type of completely bizarre and unusual crime.

Having a strong, healthy caregiver or companion who's mobile without a cane can do much to help when a break-in occurs or prevent one from happening. .

Caregivers are paid next to nothing. You cannot expect them to body guards.

They can call 911. They can run faster. They can make sure alarm is on. Two people better than one.

You can’t force someone to live with someone if they don’t want to. Nancy is not incompetent.

You can encourage and advise.