The White Lotus season 2

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Anonymous wrote:Not even a comparison with the first season. The actors are boring. The sons great attraction to a rather plain girl he meets on a one week vacation is not believable.
The old woman who finds the gay crowd is OK but way too much of her. A little to much “being gay is more fun…”
Nothing much is really happening. And no subtitles for all the mumbling. It’s at C- so disappointing.

Agree. Ethan is pathetic Albie is a stiff and Cameron is a big mouth douche

Agree w the descriptors. Maybe they’ll all grow firm this wonderful insightful vacation experience.

Ethan will cherish his wife, Albie will find his mojo w women his own age, and Cam will settle down.

Or they will continue on their current track.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The girl hookers are mildly interesting but over romanticized. I wish Daphne’s and Cameron would do something interesting instead of sleep with the local call girls. Just doesn’t even compare with season 1.

Agree. Seems like it's all about the male gaze and the male gaze, uninterestingly, always seems to want to romanticize hookers. It's all about the shiny object.

You have any better ideas

How about actually focusing on women and what they think as opposed to just the light they reflect?

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Anonymous wrote:Do you guys think Daphne is happy with her situation? I get the feeling that some people here think she has her cake and is eating it too (married to rich, good looking Cam, banging a hot trainer on the side) but some of her facial expressions suggest to me that she’s not happy about Cam’s cheating, she knows way more about it than she’s letting on to Harper, and she might end up snapping.

It seems to me that she is lying to herself when she tells Harper she’s found a way to be at peace with it.

There was this very interesting exchange in Noto where Daphne asks Harper if she thinks Ethan would cheat, and Harper basically says "absolutely not, he's not like that." This is before Daphne has confessed that she knows Cameron cheats, and Daphne has this look on her face that is *pissed*. And you can understand it because she knows what Cameron is like and Daphne is very much an alpha woman (she is almost certainly used to being the prettiest woman in any room, and having the hottest husband), and I think it really, really bothered her that Harper and Ethan might have something that Daphne can't have -- a loyal marriage.

I think Daphne wants very much to believe that all rich guys cheat, it's just part of the deal, and that's why it's okay for her to look the other way and do "what she wants." I actually think she finds Harper and Ethan kind of threatening, because if they can be wealthy and find a way to still have a functioning monogamous relationship, then what does that make Daphne and Cameron?

There are also these exchanges in Noto that highlighted how Ethan and Cameron are different, even though they are both rich and successful. Ethan is "a nerd" (Harper fully endorses this) and built his company with his intelligence and his success is based on diligent hard work and being smart. Cameron is a shmoozer. He's a finance guy and his success is built on, essentially, a house of cards (Daphne even alludes to this when she notes that a lot of Cameron's colleagues are "Bernie Madoff types" -- that's not a compliment, even in finance circles). So I think there's this implication that Ethan and Harper are kind of the real deal, that their wealth is more earned and that their marriage is more meaningful. And that Cameron and Daphne are all surface. And I don't think Daphne or Cameron enjoys thinking about that comparison but I think they've both considered it.

But I also think that Daphne and Cameron will successfully get either Ethan or Harper or both to do something that betrays the other, and that the story of the foursome will end with Daphne and Cameron victorious in bringing the other couple down their level.

And Harper is dying for affection from her husband, literally dying. So she is very jealous of the obvious affection and PDA and the story of how much he cried when he almost lost Daphne, like he couldn't live without her. Ethan displays ZERO emotion towards Harper, other than a look of disgust for her gossiping and her uptightness and her not wanting morning sex.

I see it as: the grass isn't always greener. There is something in each of these relationships that both women are craving. They both do not have 'the whole package' and the question is 'does anyone in life'???? There are always tradeoffs to be made.

While I agree that Harper is really, really envious of the open expressions of affection, I also think she has been suspicious from the start that this is an act. And the thing is, even if that suspicion was grounded in envy and pettiness... she's right. Daphne and Cameron might have genuine affection for each other but they also have a very effed up dynamic where at least some of that affection is grounded in jealousy, possessiveness, and trying to prove something to themselves, each other, and other people.

I've known couples like Daphne and Cameron in real life. They induce a lot of envy in other people because not only are often enviable people individually (attractive, successful, rich), but people really envy that power couple dynamic. And I can understand Harper's suspicion, because as a much older person, I have seen many of these couples turn out to be not what they are cracked up to be. I think the red flag is not that they love and support each other. It's that they feel like they need other people to know. It's a sign of narcissism and "Main Character Syndrome" and it can backfire as everyone gets older and if dynamics shift in their life or relationship. It's not always true, some people are just very in love and like to share that with others. But with Daphne and Cameron it really does feel a bit over the top, a little to Instagram-ready, you know? And those are the ones I've seen take a bad turn because there actually is a reason they are working so hard to brand themselves as some kind of Prom King and Queen despite being in their 30s. There's often a lot of insecurity, fear, a desperate need for external validation, ect. The truly happy couples tend to be a bit quieter about it.

I think Harper is annoyed by their superficial affection.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do you guys think Daphne is happy with her situation? I get the feeling that some people here think she has her cake and is eating it too (married to rich, good looking Cam, banging a hot trainer on the side) but some of her facial expressions suggest to me that she’s not happy about Cam’s cheating, she knows way more about it than she’s letting on to Harper, and she might end up snapping.

It seems to me that she is lying to herself when she tells Harper she’s found a way to be at peace with it.

There was this very interesting exchange in Noto where Daphne asks Harper if she thinks Ethan would cheat, and Harper basically says "absolutely not, he's not like that." This is before Daphne has confessed that she knows Cameron cheats, and Daphne has this look on her face that is *pissed*. And you can understand it because she knows what Cameron is like and Daphne is very much an alpha woman (she is almost certainly used to being the prettiest woman in any room, and having the hottest husband), and I think it really, really bothered her that Harper and Ethan might have something that Daphne can't have -- a loyal marriage.

I think Daphne wants very much to believe that all rich guys cheat, it's just part of the deal, and that's why it's okay for her to look the other way and do "what she wants." I actually think she finds Harper and Ethan kind of threatening, because if they can be wealthy and find a way to still have a functioning monogamous relationship, then what does that make Daphne and Cameron?

There are also these exchanges in Noto that highlighted how Ethan and Cameron are different, even though they are both rich and successful. Ethan is "a nerd" (Harper fully endorses this) and built his company with his intelligence and his success is based on diligent hard work and being smart. Cameron is a shmoozer. He's a finance guy and his success is built on, essentially, a house of cards (Daphne even alludes to this when she notes that a lot of Cameron's colleagues are "Bernie Madoff types" -- that's not a compliment, even in finance circles). So I think there's this implication that Ethan and Harper are kind of the real deal, that their wealth is more earned and that their marriage is more meaningful. And that Cameron and Daphne are all surface. And I don't think Daphne or Cameron enjoys thinking about that comparison but I think they've both considered it.

But I also think that Daphne and Cameron will successfully get either Ethan or Harper or both to do something that betrays the other, and that the story of the foursome will end with Daphne and Cameron victorious in bringing the other couple down their level.

And Harper is dying for affection from her husband, literally dying. So she is very jealous of the obvious affection and PDA and the story of how much he cried when he almost lost Daphne, like he couldn't live without her. Ethan displays ZERO emotion towards Harper, other than a look of disgust for her gossiping and her uptightness and her not wanting morning sex.

I see it as: the grass isn't always greener. There is something in each of these relationships that both women are craving. They both do not have 'the whole package' and the question is 'does anyone in life'???? There are always tradeoffs to be made.

While I agree that Harper is really, really envious of the open expressions of affection, I also think she has been suspicious from the start that this is an act. And the thing is, even if that suspicion was grounded in envy and pettiness... she's right. Daphne and Cameron might have genuine affection for each other but they also have a very effed up dynamic where at least some of that affection is grounded in jealousy, possessiveness, and trying to prove something to themselves, each other, and other people.

I've known couples like Daphne and Cameron in real life. They induce a lot of envy in other people because not only are often enviable people individually (attractive, successful, rich), but people really envy that power couple dynamic. And I can understand Harper's suspicion, because as a much older person, I have seen many of these couples turn out to be not what they are cracked up to be. I think the red flag is not that they love and support each other. It's that they feel like they need other people to know. It's a sign of narcissism and "Main Character Syndrome" and it can backfire as everyone gets older and if dynamics shift in their life or relationship. It's not always true, some people are just very in love and like to share that with others. But with Daphne and Cameron it really does feel a bit over the top, a little to Instagram-ready, you know? And those are the ones I've seen take a bad turn because there actually is a reason they are working so hard to brand themselves as some kind of Prom King and Queen despite being in their 30s. There's often a lot of insecurity, fear, a desperate need for external validation, ect. The truly happy couples tend to be a bit quieter about it.

I think Harper is annoyed by their superficial affection.

The affection isn’t superficial. They had it in the hotel room alone when nobody was there to see.

She may not like that they are superficial in a sense of not following the news or caring for much outside of themselves, and I think she envies nit having to carry the weight of the works on your shoulders. There’s a carefree aspect to it that’s light and she’s majorly intense.

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^world

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you guys think Daphne is happy with her situation? I get the feeling that some people here think she has her cake and is eating it too (married to rich, good looking Cam, banging a hot trainer on the side) but some of her facial expressions suggest to me that she’s not happy about Cam’s cheating, she knows way more about it than she’s letting on to Harper, and she might end up snapping.

It seems to me that she is lying to herself when she tells Harper she’s found a way to be at peace with it.

There was this very interesting exchange in Noto where Daphne asks Harper if she thinks Ethan would cheat, and Harper basically says "absolutely not, he's not like that." This is before Daphne has confessed that she knows Cameron cheats, and Daphne has this look on her face that is *pissed*. And you can understand it because she knows what Cameron is like and Daphne is very much an alpha woman (she is almost certainly used to being the prettiest woman in any room, and having the hottest husband), and I think it really, really bothered her that Harper and Ethan might have something that Daphne can't have -- a loyal marriage.

I think Daphne wants very much to believe that all rich guys cheat, it's just part of the deal, and that's why it's okay for her to look the other way and do "what she wants." I actually think she finds Harper and Ethan kind of threatening, because if they can be wealthy and find a way to still have a functioning monogamous relationship, then what does that make Daphne and Cameron?

There are also these exchanges in Noto that highlighted how Ethan and Cameron are different, even though they are both rich and successful. Ethan is "a nerd" (Harper fully endorses this) and built his company with his intelligence and his success is based on diligent hard work and being smart. Cameron is a shmoozer. He's a finance guy and his success is built on, essentially, a house of cards (Daphne even alludes to this when she notes that a lot of Cameron's colleagues are "Bernie Madoff types" -- that's not a compliment, even in finance circles). So I think there's this implication that Ethan and Harper are kind of the real deal, that their wealth is more earned and that their marriage is more meaningful. And that Cameron and Daphne are all surface. And I don't think Daphne or Cameron enjoys thinking about that comparison but I think they've both considered it.

But I also think that Daphne and Cameron will successfully get either Ethan or Harper or both to do something that betrays the other, and that the story of the foursome will end with Daphne and Cameron victorious in bringing the other couple down their level.

And Harper is dying for affection from her husband, literally dying. So she is very jealous of the obvious affection and PDA and the story of how much he cried when he almost lost Daphne, like he couldn't live without her. Ethan displays ZERO emotion towards Harper, other than a look of disgust for her gossiping and her uptightness and her not wanting morning sex.

I see it as: the grass isn't always greener. There is something in each of these relationships that both women are craving. They both do not have 'the whole package' and the question is 'does anyone in life'???? There are always tradeoffs to be made.

While I agree that Harper is really, really envious of the open expressions of affection, I also think she has been suspicious from the start that this is an act. And the thing is, even if that suspicion was grounded in envy and pettiness... she's right. Daphne and Cameron might have genuine affection for each other but they also have a very effed up dynamic where at least some of that affection is grounded in jealousy, possessiveness, and trying to prove something to themselves, each other, and other people.

I've known couples like Daphne and Cameron in real life. They induce a lot of envy in other people because not only are often enviable people individually (attractive, successful, rich), but people really envy that power couple dynamic. And I can understand Harper's suspicion, because as a much older person, I have seen many of these couples turn out to be not what they are cracked up to be. I think the red flag is not that they love and support each other. It's that they feel like they need other people to know. It's a sign of narcissism and "Main Character Syndrome" and it can backfire as everyone gets older and if dynamics shift in their life or relationship. It's not always true, some people are just very in love and like to share that with others. But with Daphne and Cameron it really does feel a bit over the top, a little to Instagram-ready, you know? And those are the ones I've seen take a bad turn because there actually is a reason they are working so hard to brand themselves as some kind of Prom King and Queen despite being in their 30s. There's often a lot of insecurity, fear, a desperate need for external validation, ect. The truly happy couples tend to be a bit quieter about it.

I think Harper is annoyed by their superficial affection.

But she’d like to get superficially boned hard by Cameron. No denying that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you guys think Daphne is happy with her situation? I get the feeling that some people here think she has her cake and is eating it too (married to rich, good looking Cam, banging a hot trainer on the side) but some of her facial expressions suggest to me that she’s not happy about Cam’s cheating, she knows way more about it than she’s letting on to Harper, and she might end up snapping.

It seems to me that she is lying to herself when she tells Harper she’s found a way to be at peace with it.

There was this very interesting exchange in Noto where Daphne asks Harper if she thinks Ethan would cheat, and Harper basically says "absolutely not, he's not like that." This is before Daphne has confessed that she knows Cameron cheats, and Daphne has this look on her face that is *pissed*. And you can understand it because she knows what Cameron is like and Daphne is very much an alpha woman (she is almost certainly used to being the prettiest woman in any room, and having the hottest husband), and I think it really, really bothered her that Harper and Ethan might have something that Daphne can't have -- a loyal marriage.

I think Daphne wants very much to believe that all rich guys cheat, it's just part of the deal, and that's why it's okay for her to look the other way and do "what she wants." I actually think she finds Harper and Ethan kind of threatening, because if they can be wealthy and find a way to still have a functioning monogamous relationship, then what does that make Daphne and Cameron?

There are also these exchanges in Noto that highlighted how Ethan and Cameron are different, even though they are both rich and successful. Ethan is "a nerd" (Harper fully endorses this) and built his company with his intelligence and his success is based on diligent hard work and being smart. Cameron is a shmoozer. He's a finance guy and his success is built on, essentially, a house of cards (Daphne even alludes to this when she notes that a lot of Cameron's colleagues are "Bernie Madoff types" -- that's not a compliment, even in finance circles). So I think there's this implication that Ethan and Harper are kind of the real deal, that their wealth is more earned and that their marriage is more meaningful. And that Cameron and Daphne are all surface. And I don't think Daphne or Cameron enjoys thinking about that comparison but I think they've both considered it.

But I also think that Daphne and Cameron will successfully get either Ethan or Harper or both to do something that betrays the other, and that the story of the foursome will end with Daphne and Cameron victorious in bringing the other couple down their level.

And Harper is dying for affection from her husband, literally dying. So she is very jealous of the obvious affection and PDA and the story of how much he cried when he almost lost Daphne, like he couldn't live without her. Ethan displays ZERO emotion towards Harper, other than a look of disgust for her gossiping and her uptightness and her not wanting morning sex.

I see it as: the grass isn't always greener. There is something in each of these relationships that both women are craving. They both do not have 'the whole package' and the question is 'does anyone in life'???? There are always tradeoffs to be made.

While I agree that Harper is really, really envious of the open expressions of affection, I also think she has been suspicious from the start that this is an act. And the thing is, even if that suspicion was grounded in envy and pettiness... she's right. Daphne and Cameron might have genuine affection for each other but they also have a very effed up dynamic where at least some of that affection is grounded in jealousy, possessiveness, and trying to prove something to themselves, each other, and other people.

I've known couples like Daphne and Cameron in real life. They induce a lot of envy in other people because not only are often enviable people individually (attractive, successful, rich), but people really envy that power couple dynamic. And I can understand Harper's suspicion, because as a much older person, I have seen many of these couples turn out to be not what they are cracked up to be. I think the red flag is not that they love and support each other. It's that they feel like they need other people to know. It's a sign of narcissism and "Main Character Syndrome" and it can backfire as everyone gets older and if dynamics shift in their life or relationship. It's not always true, some people are just very in love and like to share that with others. But with Daphne and Cameron it really does feel a bit over the top, a little to Instagram-ready, you know? And those are the ones I've seen take a bad turn because there actually is a reason they are working so hard to brand themselves as some kind of Prom King and Queen despite being in their 30s. There's often a lot of insecurity, fear, a desperate need for external validation, ect. The truly happy couples tend to be a bit quieter about it.

I think Harper is annoyed by their superficial affection.

But she’d like to get superficially boned hard by Cameron. No denying that.

She has got laid since she arrived in Sicily, and likely not in many weeks prior.

[Anonymous]

Does the next episode drop tonight at 9?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does the next episode drop tonight at 9?

Yes

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does the next episode drop tonight at 9?

Yes

And no matter how many critiques I may issue, you know I'm glued to it as soon as it does....

[Anonymous]

Let’s push this to 200 pages because we obviously no lives

[Anonymous]

The length of this thread is what made me decide to start watching and I binged the past week and am so sad to be caught up! On pins and needles waiting for tonight’s episode!

[Anonymous]

ONE OF US!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:ONE OF US!!!

What?

[Anonymous]

So, Tanya is getting set up to die and give all her money to the gays somehow. Does she have to cheat for this to work?

Ethan is losing it completely.

Albie is convince he needs to save the prostitute like we all thought.

All the bad stuff is happening.

And yet, we still don't know who really dies.