Looks like a new Gaza war has started

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

And there you have it.

This is not about being pro-Palestinian rights and freedom. This is not about grief for the suffering of Palestinian civilians.

They don't want pro-Israel protester to exist.

I dare anyone to find a group of students at a mainstream American college who support Israel saying they don't want the Palestinians to exist, and they don't want the pot-Palestinian protesters to exist.

Shut it! Israel in its current form should not exist! There you have it! It is not antisemitism, it is not anti jewish. The state of Israel in its current form is a cancer! The world and jews would have been better off if Israel never existed. The creation of a Jewish state in the middle of the Arab world not only represents the continuation of European colonialism in Palestine, it has also consisted of the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians and the establishment of an apartheid system by a rogue nation that has repeatedly violated international law.

Given this history, the repeated claim made by the United States and other Western nations that Israel’s military actions are merely acts of self-defense contradicts the reality on the ground. Surely it is the violence carried out by people forced to live under a violent illegal military occupation and blockade that should be considered an act of self-defense. After all, the French Resistance to the Nazi occupation of France during World War Two is viewed as a heroic struggle for national liberation. In stark contrast, Palestinian resisters are labelled ‘terrorists.’
Despite the best efforts of the United States and other Western governments as well as the mainstream media to portray Israel as the victim in this conflict, the numbers make evident who is doing most of the killing and who is doing most of the dying. The fact that a people forced to live under an illegal foreign military occupation are portrayed as the aggressors constitutes a stunning example of Orwellian doublespeak.

Sweet tantrum! And the quiet part gets said out loud.

Congratulations, you’re a terrorist.

And if you need a primer on the differences between Hamas and the French partisans of WWII, lmk.

I mean, labels are pointless at this point. Bibi is a terrorist, too, and anyone who supports him is a terrorist, as well. The fact that he stumbles around in a poorly-fitted suit with a smirk on his face, while his dirty work is being done by the great-grandchildren of settlers from places like the Ukraine and Brooklyn, using subsidized US weapons and technology - yeah, that doesn't absolve him at all for his share of foundational blame here. Unnecessary loss of life is tragic, wherever it occurs. That means on 10/7 and for 115 years prior, and certainly for the past nearly three weeks.

I support neither side in this lopsided battle over sand and oil. Spare me the talk of holy lands ...

But above all else, stop trying to bamboozle others into thinking the State of Israel was formed by peaceful, indigenous settlers who were just looking for a friendly welcome wagon greeting from their new neighbors. Wind the clock back another 40 - 50 years to get up to speed on why we are where we are today.

Yawn.
What is reality. It is important to live in reality. The independent, existing, nation-state of Israel, isn't going anywhere. It exists.

Yawn ...

Who said otherwise? Who argued otherwise? The post you responded to didn't argue otherwise.

Look, you can play the smug card all day long, but at the end of that same day, you'll still be supporting a people who believe themselves - in the year 2023 - to be chosen above others. Chosen. Special. Better than others. Just typing and seeing those words in print ... it seems disturbing, no?

Anyway, fairytales just don't do it for me, so more power to you (and your delusions, I guess).

I'm a Jew and have literally never heard a Jew refer to him or herself as "Chosen". But I have noticed that Jew-haters like to use the "chosen people" moniker from the Bible to say that Jews think they're "chosen".
Reminds me of the Christian fundamentalists who insist that people get offended by "Merry Christmas" when it doesn't actually happen, it's just something they make up or grossly exaggerate in order to rile themselves up.

I'm not sure your anecdotal "Just shush, never mind those meddlesome facts" act really matters. 2/3 of whomever these people are seem to believe exactly what was said ...

https://en.idi.org.il/media/3958/democracy-index-english-2013.pdf

[Anonymous]

Politicians from all parties need to denounce what happened at Cooper Union.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

And there you have it.

This is not about being pro-Palestinian rights and freedom. This is not about grief for the suffering of Palestinian civilians.

They don't want pro-Israel protester to exist.

I dare anyone to find a group of students at a mainstream American college who support Israel saying they don't want the Palestinians to exist, and they don't want the pot-Palestinian protesters to exist.

Shut it! Israel in its current form should not exist! There you have it! It is not antisemitism, it is not anti jewish. The state of Israel in its current form is a cancer! The world and jews would have been better off if Israel never existed. The creation of a Jewish state in the middle of the Arab world not only represents the continuation of European colonialism in Palestine, it has also consisted of the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians and the establishment of an apartheid system by a rogue nation that has repeatedly violated international law.

Given this history, the repeated claim made by the United States and other Western nations that Israel’s military actions are merely acts of self-defense contradicts the reality on the ground. Surely it is the violence carried out by people forced to live under a violent illegal military occupation and blockade that should be considered an act of self-defense. After all, the French Resistance to the Nazi occupation of France during World War Two is viewed as a heroic struggle for national liberation. In stark contrast, Palestinian resisters are labelled ‘terrorists.’
Despite the best efforts of the United States and other Western governments as well as the mainstream media to portray Israel as the victim in this conflict, the numbers make evident who is doing most of the killing and who is doing most of the dying. The fact that a people forced to live under an illegal foreign military occupation are portrayed as the aggressors constitutes a stunning example of Orwellian doublespeak.

Sweet tantrum! And the quiet part gets said out loud.

Congratulations, you’re a terrorist.

And if you need a primer on the differences between Hamas and the French partisans of WWII, lmk.

I mean, labels are pointless at this point. Bibi is a terrorist, too, and anyone who supports him is a terrorist, as well. The fact that he stumbles around in a poorly-fitted suit with a smirk on his face, while his dirty work is being done by the great-grandchildren of settlers from places like the Ukraine and Brooklyn, using subsidized US weapons and technology - yeah, that doesn't absolve him at all for his share of foundational blame here. Unnecessary loss of life is tragic, wherever it occurs. That means on 10/7 and for 115 years prior, and certainly for the past nearly three weeks.

I support neither side in this lopsided battle over sand and oil. Spare me the talk of holy lands ...

But above all else, stop trying to bamboozle others into thinking the State of Israel was formed by peaceful, indigenous settlers who were just looking for a friendly welcome wagon greeting from their new neighbors. Wind the clock back another 40 - 50 years to get up to speed on why we are where we are today.

Yawn.
What is reality. It is important to live in reality. The independent, existing, nation-state of Israel, isn't going anywhere. It exists.

Yawn ...

Who said otherwise? Who argued otherwise? The post you responded to didn't argue otherwise.

Look, you can play the smug card all day long, but at the end of that same day, you'll still be supporting a people who believe themselves - in the year 2023 - to be chosen above others. Chosen. Special. Better than others. Just typing and seeing those words in print ... it seems disturbing, no?

Anyway, fairytales just don't do it for me, so more power to you (and your delusions, I guess).

I'm a Jew and have literally never heard a Jew refer to him or herself as "Chosen". But I have noticed that Jew-haters like to use the "chosen people" moniker from the Bible to say that Jews think they're "chosen".
Reminds me of the Christian fundamentalists who insist that people get offended by "Merry Christmas" when it doesn't actually happen, it's just something they make up or grossly exaggerate in order to rile themselves up.

I’m Jewish and agree. I can’t remember ever hearing it mentioned during services or anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Politicians from all parties need to denounce what happened at Cooper Union.

Anyone engaging in that kind of intimidating conduct gets a disorderly conduct charge, and if they lay hands on anyone, away they go to appear on more serious charges.

There are many civil ways to address issues that simply need not involve trying to scare people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And this was in DC: https://twitter.com/stopantisemites/status/1717192833264754781?s=46

“you a Jew?” driver asks

“I am in fact” - Jewish woman

“I knew it I knew I knew it … I know you was a Jew .. you people are the devil. I knew it. You are the devil.” driver

The driver was black.

I made the mistake of checking out Lipstick Alley last night.
Numerous people saying they're thrilled that the can finally be loud and proud about how much they hate Jews.

The population of lipstick alley is genrally uneducated (you can tell by posts about education, careers, living situations,etc) and LOT of the posters are of African descent (or not) but NOT from the United States--that is, they are not African American--the site does not represent the thoughts of all African Americans; in addition, obviously the people on there spend a lot of time on social media; social media throws arounds the words "POC" and "colonizers" a lot when referring to history and everything is reduced to colonizers oppressed POC throughout history and now--this is the only thing "history" is them them--lipstick alley eats this up, see posts during the time QE2 died for example, lots of rude posts celebrating her death. Unquestioned support for the plight of "Palestinians" is a continuation of this. I am not excusing is, just trying to provide what I think is insight.
-An African American lady who thinks lipstick alley is a fun diversion sometimes but is getting irritated with its ignorance.

*to them NOT them them

Thank you for taking the time to explain/provide background. This is really helpful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It seems like it is just not safe to be a Jewish college student in New York City. CUNY, NYU, Columbia ....

I think it's safe when action is taken by the administration. It's unsafe when action isn't taken? Unless it's actually unsafe in the moment, a different story.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

And there you have it.

This is not about being pro-Palestinian rights and freedom. This is not about grief for the suffering of Palestinian civilians.

They don't want pro-Israel protester to exist.

I dare anyone to find a group of students at a mainstream American college who support Israel saying they don't want the Palestinians to exist, and they don't want the pot-Palestinian protesters to exist.

Shut it! Israel in its current form should not exist! There you have it! It is not antisemitism, it is not anti jewish. The state of Israel in its current form is a cancer! The world and jews would have been better off if Israel never existed. The creation of a Jewish state in the middle of the Arab world not only represents the continuation of European colonialism in Palestine, it has also consisted of the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians and the establishment of an apartheid system by a rogue nation that has repeatedly violated international law.

Given this history, the repeated claim made by the United States and other Western nations that Israel’s military actions are merely acts of self-defense contradicts the reality on the ground. Surely it is the violence carried out by people forced to live under a violent illegal military occupation and blockade that should be considered an act of self-defense. After all, the French Resistance to the Nazi occupation of France during World War Two is viewed as a heroic struggle for national liberation. In stark contrast, Palestinian resisters are labelled ‘terrorists.’
Despite the best efforts of the United States and other Western governments as well as the mainstream media to portray Israel as the victim in this conflict, the numbers make evident who is doing most of the killing and who is doing most of the dying. The fact that a people forced to live under an illegal foreign military occupation are portrayed as the aggressors constitutes a stunning example of Orwellian doublespeak.

Sweet tantrum! And the quiet part gets said out loud.

Congratulations, you’re a terrorist.

And if you need a primer on the differences between Hamas and the French partisans of WWII, lmk.

I mean, labels are pointless at this point. Bibi is a terrorist, too, and anyone who supports him is a terrorist, as well. The fact that he stumbles around in a poorly-fitted suit with a smirk on his face, while his dirty work is being done by the great-grandchildren of settlers from places like the Ukraine and Brooklyn, using subsidized US weapons and technology - yeah, that doesn't absolve him at all for his share of foundational blame here. Unnecessary loss of life is tragic, wherever it occurs. That means on 10/7 and for 115 years prior, and certainly for the past nearly three weeks.

I support neither side in this lopsided battle over sand and oil. Spare me the talk of holy lands ...

But above all else, stop trying to bamboozle others into thinking the State of Israel was formed by peaceful, indigenous settlers who were just looking for a friendly welcome wagon greeting from their new neighbors. Wind the clock back another 40 - 50 years to get up to speed on why we are where we are today.

Yawn.
What is reality. It is important to live in reality. The independent, existing, nation-state of Israel, isn't going anywhere. It exists.

Yawn ...

Who said otherwise? Who argued otherwise? The post you responded to didn't argue otherwise.

Look, you can play the smug card all day long, but at the end of that same day, you'll still be supporting a people who believe themselves - in the year 2023 - to be chosen above others. Chosen. Special. Better than others. Just typing and seeing those words in print ... it seems disturbing, no?

Anyway, fairytales just don't do it for me, so more power to you (and your delusions, I guess).

I'm a Jew and have literally never heard a Jew refer to him or herself as "Chosen". But I have noticed that Jew-haters like to use the "chosen people" moniker from the Bible to say that Jews think they're "chosen".
Reminds me of the Christian fundamentalists who insist that people get offended by "Merry Christmas" when it doesn't actually happen, it's just something they make up or grossly exaggerate in order to rile themselves up.

I’m Jewish and agree. I can’t remember ever hearing it mentioned during services or anything.

https://en.idi.org.il/media/3958/democracy-index-english-2013.pdf

Or just suspend the disbelief for a minute to conduct a google search. That belief is alive and very, very well embedded in the State of Israel.

Your anecdotal views don't change anything. I've never seen a Hamas militant so much as shake an Olive Garden breadstick at an Israeli citizen, so certainly they must not have been involved in the events of 10/7, right? I also never stepped on the moon myself, so that didn't happen, as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Politicians from all parties need to denounce what happened at Cooper Union.

Anyone engaging in that kind of intimidating conduct gets a disorderly conduct charge, and if they lay hands on anyone, away they go to appear on more serious charges.

There are many civil ways to address issues that simply need not involve trying to scare people.

That the school felt that it had to barricade the Jewish students in the library for their own protection is really something. Any parent of a Jewish student there should demand answers and/or requesting transfer information.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

And there you have it.

This is not about being pro-Palestinian rights and freedom. This is not about grief for the suffering of Palestinian civilians.

They don't want pro-Israel protester to exist.

I dare anyone to find a group of students at a mainstream American college who support Israel saying they don't want the Palestinians to exist, and they don't want the pot-Palestinian protesters to exist.

Shut it! Israel in its current form should not exist! There you have it! It is not antisemitism, it is not anti jewish. The state of Israel in its current form is a cancer! The world and jews would have been better off if Israel never existed. The creation of a Jewish state in the middle of the Arab world not only represents the continuation of European colonialism in Palestine, it has also consisted of the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians and the establishment of an apartheid system by a rogue nation that has repeatedly violated international law.

Given this history, the repeated claim made by the United States and other Western nations that Israel’s military actions are merely acts of self-defense contradicts the reality on the ground. Surely it is the violence carried out by people forced to live under a violent illegal military occupation and blockade that should be considered an act of self-defense. After all, the French Resistance to the Nazi occupation of France during World War Two is viewed as a heroic struggle for national liberation. In stark contrast, Palestinian resisters are labelled ‘terrorists.’
Despite the best efforts of the United States and other Western governments as well as the mainstream media to portray Israel as the victim in this conflict, the numbers make evident who is doing most of the killing and who is doing most of the dying. The fact that a people forced to live under an illegal foreign military occupation are portrayed as the aggressors constitutes a stunning example of Orwellian doublespeak.

Sweet tantrum! And the quiet part gets said out loud.

Congratulations, you’re a terrorist.

And if you need a primer on the differences between Hamas and the French partisans of WWII, lmk.

I mean, labels are pointless at this point. Bibi is a terrorist, too, and anyone who supports him is a terrorist, as well. The fact that he stumbles around in a poorly-fitted suit with a smirk on his face, while his dirty work is being done by the great-grandchildren of settlers from places like the Ukraine and Brooklyn, using subsidized US weapons and technology - yeah, that doesn't absolve him at all for his share of foundational blame here. Unnecessary loss of life is tragic, wherever it occurs. That means on 10/7 and for 115 years prior, and certainly for the past nearly three weeks.

I support neither side in this lopsided battle over sand and oil. Spare me the talk of holy lands ...

But above all else, stop trying to bamboozle others into thinking the State of Israel was formed by peaceful, indigenous settlers who were just looking for a friendly welcome wagon greeting from their new neighbors. Wind the clock back another 40 - 50 years to get up to speed on why we are where we are today.

Yawn.
What is reality. It is important to live in reality. The independent, existing, nation-state of Israel, isn't going anywhere. It exists.

Yawn ...

Who said otherwise? Who argued otherwise? The post you responded to didn't argue otherwise.

Look, you can play the smug card all day long, but at the end of that same day, you'll still be supporting a people who believe themselves - in the year 2023 - to be chosen above others. Chosen. Special. Better than others. Just typing and seeing those words in print ... it seems disturbing, no?

Anyway, fairytales just don't do it for me, so more power to you (and your delusions, I guess).

I'm a Jew and have literally never heard a Jew refer to him or herself as "Chosen". But I have noticed that Jew-haters like to use the "chosen people" moniker from the Bible to say that Jews think they're "chosen".
Reminds me of the Christian fundamentalists who insist that people get offended by "Merry Christmas" when it doesn't actually happen, it's just something they make up or grossly exaggerate in order to rile themselves up.

I’m Jewish and agree. I can’t remember ever hearing it mentioned during services or anything.

https://en.idi.org.il/media/3958/democracy-index-english-2013.pdf

Or just suspend the disbelief for a minute to conduct a google search. That belief is alive and very, very well embedded in the State of Israel.

Your anecdotal views don't change anything. I've never seen a Hamas militant so much as shake an Olive Garden breadstick at an Israeli citizen, so certainly they must not have been involved in the events of 10/7, right? I also never stepped on the moon myself, so that didn't happen, as well.

Excuse me what?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It seems like it is just not safe to be a Jewish college student in New York City. CUNY, NYU, Columbia ....

I think it's safe when action is taken by the administration. It's unsafe when action isn't taken? Unless it's actually unsafe in the moment, a different story.

An overall unsafe environment, it seems.

[Anonymous]

I remember I was talking about the antisemitism on the far left a few years ago and no one believed me. It was all “stop centering yourself.”

It’s sad that it took this for people to realize it’s there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

And there you have it.

This is not about being pro-Palestinian rights and freedom. This is not about grief for the suffering of Palestinian civilians.

They don't want pro-Israel protester to exist.

I dare anyone to find a group of students at a mainstream American college who support Israel saying they don't want the Palestinians to exist, and they don't want the pot-Palestinian protesters to exist.

Shut it! Israel in its current form should not exist! There you have it! It is not antisemitism, it is not anti jewish. The state of Israel in its current form is a cancer! The world and jews would have been better off if Israel never existed. The creation of a Jewish state in the middle of the Arab world not only represents the continuation of European colonialism in Palestine, it has also consisted of the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians and the establishment of an apartheid system by a rogue nation that has repeatedly violated international law.

Given this history, the repeated claim made by the United States and other Western nations that Israel’s military actions are merely acts of self-defense contradicts the reality on the ground. Surely it is the violence carried out by people forced to live under a violent illegal military occupation and blockade that should be considered an act of self-defense. After all, the French Resistance to the Nazi occupation of France during World War Two is viewed as a heroic struggle for national liberation. In stark contrast, Palestinian resisters are labelled ‘terrorists.’
Despite the best efforts of the United States and other Western governments as well as the mainstream media to portray Israel as the victim in this conflict, the numbers make evident who is doing most of the killing and who is doing most of the dying. The fact that a people forced to live under an illegal foreign military occupation are portrayed as the aggressors constitutes a stunning example of Orwellian doublespeak.

Sweet tantrum! And the quiet part gets said out loud.

Congratulations, you’re a terrorist.

And if you need a primer on the differences between Hamas and the French partisans of WWII, lmk.

I mean, labels are pointless at this point. Bibi is a terrorist, too, and anyone who supports him is a terrorist, as well. The fact that he stumbles around in a poorly-fitted suit with a smirk on his face, while his dirty work is being done by the great-grandchildren of settlers from places like the Ukraine and Brooklyn, using subsidized US weapons and technology - yeah, that doesn't absolve him at all for his share of foundational blame here. Unnecessary loss of life is tragic, wherever it occurs. That means on 10/7 and for 115 years prior, and certainly for the past nearly three weeks.

I support neither side in this lopsided battle over sand and oil. Spare me the talk of holy lands ...

But above all else, stop trying to bamboozle others into thinking the State of Israel was formed by peaceful, indigenous settlers who were just looking for a friendly welcome wagon greeting from their new neighbors. Wind the clock back another 40 - 50 years to get up to speed on why we are where we are today.

Yawn.
What is reality. It is important to live in reality. The independent, existing, nation-state of Israel, isn't going anywhere. It exists.

Yawn ...

Who said otherwise? Who argued otherwise? The post you responded to didn't argue otherwise.

Look, you can play the smug card all day long, but at the end of that same day, you'll still be supporting a people who believe themselves - in the year 2023 - to be chosen above others. Chosen. Special. Better than others. Just typing and seeing those words in print ... it seems disturbing, no?

Anyway, fairytales just don't do it for me, so more power to you (and your delusions, I guess).

I'm a Jew and have literally never heard a Jew refer to him or herself as "Chosen". But I have noticed that Jew-haters like to use the "chosen people" moniker from the Bible to say that Jews think they're "chosen".
Reminds me of the Christian fundamentalists who insist that people get offended by "Merry Christmas" when it doesn't actually happen, it's just something they make up or grossly exaggerate in order to rile themselves up.

I’m Jewish and agree. I can’t remember ever hearing it mentioned during services or anything.

https://en.idi.org.il/media/3958/democracy-index-english-2013.pdf

Or just suspend the disbelief for a minute to conduct a google search. That belief is alive and very, very well embedded in the State of Israel.

Your anecdotal views don't change anything. I've never seen a Hamas militant so much as shake an Olive Garden breadstick at an Israeli citizen, so certainly they must not have been involved in the events of 10/7, right? I also never stepped on the moon myself, so that didn't happen, as well.

How many Hamas militants have you come across in your life? I was raised in a Jewish community, went to Jewish schools and summer camps, have spent plenty of time in Israel. Essentially have been friends with, acquainted with or spoken to several thousand Jews in my life. I have never heard anyone refer to us as “chosen”. I do, however, remember a sermon my rabbi once gave, discussing that passage in the Bible and explaining that it meant that the Jews chose God, not the other way around.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

And there you have it.

This is not about being pro-Palestinian rights and freedom. This is not about grief for the suffering of Palestinian civilians.

They don't want pro-Israel protester to exist.

I dare anyone to find a group of students at a mainstream American college who support Israel saying they don't want the Palestinians to exist, and they don't want the pot-Palestinian protesters to exist.

Shut it! Israel in its current form should not exist! There you have it! It is not antisemitism, it is not anti jewish. The state of Israel in its current form is a cancer! The world and jews would have been better off if Israel never existed. The creation of a Jewish state in the middle of the Arab world not only represents the continuation of European colonialism in Palestine, it has also consisted of the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians and the establishment of an apartheid system by a rogue nation that has repeatedly violated international law.

Given this history, the repeated claim made by the United States and other Western nations that Israel’s military actions are merely acts of self-defense contradicts the reality on the ground. Surely it is the violence carried out by people forced to live under a violent illegal military occupation and blockade that should be considered an act of self-defense. After all, the French Resistance to the Nazi occupation of France during World War Two is viewed as a heroic struggle for national liberation. In stark contrast, Palestinian resisters are labelled ‘terrorists.’
Despite the best efforts of the United States and other Western governments as well as the mainstream media to portray Israel as the victim in this conflict, the numbers make evident who is doing most of the killing and who is doing most of the dying. The fact that a people forced to live under an illegal foreign military occupation are portrayed as the aggressors constitutes a stunning example of Orwellian doublespeak.

Sweet tantrum! And the quiet part gets said out loud.

Congratulations, you’re a terrorist.

And if you need a primer on the differences between Hamas and the French partisans of WWII, lmk.

I mean, labels are pointless at this point. Bibi is a terrorist, too, and anyone who supports him is a terrorist, as well. The fact that he stumbles around in a poorly-fitted suit with a smirk on his face, while his dirty work is being done by the great-grandchildren of settlers from places like the Ukraine and Brooklyn, using subsidized US weapons and technology - yeah, that doesn't absolve him at all for his share of foundational blame here. Unnecessary loss of life is tragic, wherever it occurs. That means on 10/7 and for 115 years prior, and certainly for the past nearly three weeks.

I support neither side in this lopsided battle over sand and oil. Spare me the talk of holy lands ...

But above all else, stop trying to bamboozle others into thinking the State of Israel was formed by peaceful, indigenous settlers who were just looking for a friendly welcome wagon greeting from their new neighbors. Wind the clock back another 40 - 50 years to get up to speed on why we are where we are today.

Yawn.
What is reality. It is important to live in reality. The independent, existing, nation-state of Israel, isn't going anywhere. It exists.

Yawn ...

Who said otherwise? Who argued otherwise? The post you responded to didn't argue otherwise.

Look, you can play the smug card all day long, but at the end of that same day, you'll still be supporting a people who believe themselves - in the year 2023 - to be chosen above others. Chosen. Special. Better than others. Just typing and seeing those words in print ... it seems disturbing, no?

Anyway, fairytales just don't do it for me, so more power to you (and your delusions, I guess).

I'm a Jew and have literally never heard a Jew refer to him or herself as "Chosen". But I have noticed that Jew-haters like to use the "chosen people" moniker from the Bible to say that Jews think they're "chosen".
Reminds me of the Christian fundamentalists who insist that people get offended by "Merry Christmas" when it doesn't actually happen, it's just something they make up or grossly exaggerate in order to rile themselves up.

I’m Jewish and agree. I can’t remember ever hearing it mentioned during services or anything.

https://en.idi.org.il/media/3958/democracy-index-english-2013.pdf

Or just suspend the disbelief for a minute to conduct a google search. That belief is alive and very, very well embedded in the State of Israel.

Your anecdotal views don't change anything. I've never seen a Hamas militant so much as shake an Olive Garden breadstick at an Israeli citizen, so certainly they must not have been involved in the events of 10/7, right? I also never stepped on the moon myself, so that didn't happen, as well.

Feeling "chosen" or "saved" or "potentially saved if you do certain things" is very common to many world religions including Christianity and Islam. It's kind of funny to me to point it out with regard to Judaism and/or Israel, which shows far more tolerance than many of its neighbor states to people of other religions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I remember I was talking about the antisemitism on the far left a few years ago and no one believed me. It was all “stop centering yourself.”

It’s sad that it took this for people to realize it’s there.

I was talking about it 30 years ago when I wasn’t even 12. It’s all out there now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And this was in DC: https://twitter.com/stopantisemites/status/1717192833264754781?s=46

“you a Jew?” driver asks

“I am in fact” - Jewish woman

“I knew it I knew I knew it … I know you was a Jew .. you people are the devil. I knew it. You are the devil.” driver

The driver was black.

I made the mistake of checking out Lipstick Alley last night.
Numerous people saying they're thrilled that the can finally be loud and proud about how much they hate Jews.

The population of lipstick alley is genrally uneducated (you can tell by posts about education, careers, living situations,etc) and LOT of the posters are of African descent (or not) but NOT from the United States--that is, they are not African American--the site does not represent the thoughts of all African Americans; in addition, obviously the people on there spend a lot of time on social media; social media throws arounds the words "POC" and "colonizers" a lot when referring to history and everything is reduced to colonizers oppressed POC throughout history and now--this is the only thing "history" is them them--lipstick alley eats this up, see posts during the time QE2 died for example, lots of rude posts celebrating her death. Unquestioned support for the plight of "Palestinians" is a continuation of this. I am not excusing is, just trying to provide what I think is insight.
-An African American lady who thinks lipstick alley is a fun diversion sometimes but is getting irritated with its ignorance.

*to them NOT them them

Thank you for taking the time to explain/provide background. This is really helpful.

You are welcome. And again, I want to be clear that I think the rhetoric is represhensible, even as I provide insight into it. No excuses, we all are responsible for our words. Also, I think that what we are seeing on college campuses has a similar if not same origin. Benign or non-benign actors throw out the words POC, colonizers, and oppression, and this generation of college students follow in lock-step. This is why it is so trendy to call Israel a colonizer state these days, the people saying that know what they are doing.