Virginia referendum - if you hate MAGA, vote YES (even if your mailing says to vote 'No')

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else think the Republican whining is a bit…unseemly? I can’t help but thinking about the little pipsqeak on the playground who bullies the big kid for years, then cries bloody murder when the big kid punches him back once and knocks him flat on his back.

AOC said it best when she said, “Wah wah wah.” I can’t help but see children every time I see Republican white men whining about injustice.

This is going to result in Democrats winning 10 of Virginia's 11 House districts. Reminder: Virginia is purple state. That's completely ridiculous. Why don't you just ban Republicans from voting altogether?

Politicians gaming the rules to nullify the votes of people they don't like is some shady fkcng business, and this genie does not go back in the bottle. When Republicans come back into power, as they inevitably will, I'm surely they do the same thing to Democrats, but worse. It's never just tit for tat.

Gerrymandering is stupid. It disenfranchises voters. It makes Congress *completely* dysfunctional. And it sets off an endless cycle of retribution between the parties. All if this is especially dumb because Democrats are going to win the House and Senate, anyway, even without this.

The people who support this are effectively voting to disenfranchise people they don't agree with. When democracy in America ends, you can say you did your small part.

What do you think would have been an appropriate response to Texas’ efforts to pass laws that VA must abide by, having supressed its voters?

DP. Something that follows the law would have been a good start. The VA Dems tried to cheat to try do their cheating. You can’t make this stuff up.

This followed the law.

Giving 10 out of 11 House seats to Democrats in an evenly divided state could hardly be more ridiculous.

There’s nothing in the law that says they can’t. Ask SCOTUS.

I agree it’s unfair. So I support the national band on political gerrymandering. Do you?

NP and yes.

Great! Call your republican member of congress (while they still have a job) because they’re the ones blocking it.

No, they're not. You know nothing about politics. A bill like this would never pass Congress regardless of which party is in charge.

Then call the D’s bluff.

Let’s see full R support and see what happens.

There is no bluff. You're just an idiot. Democrats will never support this. Neither will Republicans. No one in Congress is even seriously considering this.

Stop calling people idiots.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/For_the_People_Act

You should really try to learn the basics of politics and how Congress works before spouting off.

This bill passed the House five years ago, when Democrats controlled the entire government. They could have passed it into law, because they controlled the Senate and the White House, but they didn't because they didn't care all that much about it. It was a messaging bill. They had other things they actually cared about.

Second, the bill doesn't actually exist anymore, because all bills automatically die after two years. After two years, you have to start the whole process all over again. There is no bill just waiting for the Senate to be passed. Most of the bill who wrote that bill aren't even in Congress anymore. Many have since died or retired.

If Democrats who are currently in Congress wanted to do this, they could. They could write their own bill and try to rally support for it, and demand a vote. They haven't done any of that, because they don't care about this issue.

Dems have been working on this issue for years, reworking it many times.

Given the MAGA attacks on basic voting rights, the Dems have had bigger issues to fry and they have been pushing the SAVE Act and John Lewis Voting Rights Act.

But they do have a bill to address gerrymandering currently in the works:
https://thecensusproject.org/2025/11/07/the-redistricting-reform-act-s-2885-and-h-r-5449/
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/5449/text

Lawmakers introduce probably 8,000 per year, every year, on everything under the sun. Most of them are meaningless messaging bills that are just designed to signal that a lawmakers cares about an issue. But they make zero effort to actually pass them. If Democrats actually wanted to ban redistricting you would hear the leadership talking about it all the time. The Speaker would be asking why this bill isn't on the floor. They would be gathering signatures for discharge petitions. They would be offering restricting amendments to the reconcilation bill that just passed the Senate. None of that is happening because all politicians, regardless of party, love gerrymandering because they want to pick who votes for them so they can stay in power forever.

This is almost correct. Republicans love gerrymandering. Democrats have consistently proposed bills that ban partisan gerrymandering nationwide, but Republicans don't support them.

Look, if there was something Republicans hated in the bill Democrats have proposed, they could strip them out and pass it tomorrow. Republicans have a trifecta right now. Democrats have already passed bills against gerrymandering. Republicans could ban gerrymandering tomorrow if they wanted to! For all the performative bellyaching, it's clear they're not even remotely interested in matters of representation or fairness. They're just whining because their side lost.

Hard to keep track of all the double speak here. So it's bad on Republicans because aren't banning redistricting when they control the House and Senate and White House, and it's also Republicans' fault that Democrats didn't ban redistricting when they controlled the House and Senate and White House in 2021?

Dems can’t do it without R support (60 votes) whether they control the House/Senate or not.

So, yes, in both cases the Rs are the reason why we haven’t banned gerrymandering.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else think the Republican whining is a bit…unseemly? I can’t help but thinking about the little pipsqeak on the playground who bullies the big kid for years, then cries bloody murder when the big kid punches him back once and knocks him flat on his back.

AOC said it best when she said, “Wah wah wah.” I can’t help but see children every time I see Republican white men whining about injustice.

This is going to result in Democrats winning 10 of Virginia's 11 House districts. Reminder: Virginia is purple state. That's completely ridiculous. Why don't you just ban Republicans from voting altogether?

Politicians gaming the rules to nullify the votes of people they don't like is some shady fkcng business, and this genie does not go back in the bottle. When Republicans come back into power, as they inevitably will, I'm surely they do the same thing to Democrats, but worse. It's never just tit for tat.

Gerrymandering is stupid. It disenfranchises voters. It makes Congress *completely* dysfunctional. And it sets off an endless cycle of retribution between the parties. All if this is especially dumb because Democrats are going to win the House and Senate, anyway, even without this.

The people who support this are effectively voting to disenfranchise people they don't agree with. When democracy in America ends, you can say you did your small part.

What do you think would have been an appropriate response to Texas’ efforts to pass laws that VA must abide by, having supressed its voters?

DP. Something that follows the law would have been a good start. The VA Dems tried to cheat to try do their cheating. You can’t make this stuff up.

This followed the law.

Giving 10 out of 11 House seats to Democrats in an evenly divided state could hardly be more ridiculous.

There’s nothing in the law that says they can’t. Ask SCOTUS.

I agree it’s unfair. So I support the national band on political gerrymandering. Do you?

NP and yes.

Great! Call your republican member of congress (while they still have a job) because they’re the ones blocking it.

No, they're not. You know nothing about politics. A bill like this would never pass Congress regardless of which party is in charge.

Then call the D’s bluff.

Let’s see full R support and see what happens.

There is no bluff. You're just an idiot. Democrats will never support this. Neither will Republicans. No one in Congress is even seriously considering this.

Stop calling people idiots.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/For_the_People_Act

You should really try to learn the basics of politics and how Congress works before spouting off.

This bill passed the House five years ago, when Democrats controlled the entire government. They could have passed it into law, because they controlled the Senate and the White House, but they didn't because they didn't care all that much about it. It was a messaging bill. They had other things they actually cared about.

Second, the bill doesn't actually exist anymore, because all bills automatically die after two years. After two years, you have to start the whole process all over again. There is no bill just waiting for the Senate to be passed. Most of the bill who wrote that bill aren't even in Congress anymore. Many have since died or retired.

If Democrats who are currently in Congress wanted to do this, they could. They could write their own bill and try to rally support for it, and demand a vote. They haven't done any of that, because they don't care about this issue.

Dems have been working on this issue for years, reworking it many times.

Given the MAGA attacks on basic voting rights, the Dems have had bigger issues to fry and they have been pushing the SAVE Act and John Lewis Voting Rights Act.

But they do have a bill to address gerrymandering currently in the works:
https://thecensusproject.org/2025/11/07/the-redistricting-reform-act-s-2885-and-h-r-5449/
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/5449/text

Lawmakers introduce probably 8,000 per year, every year, on everything under the sun. Most of them are meaningless messaging bills that are just designed to signal that a lawmakers cares about an issue. But they make zero effort to actually pass them. If Democrats actually wanted to ban redistricting you would hear the leadership talking about it all the time. The Speaker would be asking why this bill isn't on the floor. They would be gathering signatures for discharge petitions. They would be offering restricting amendments to the reconcilation bill that just passed the Senate. None of that is happening because all politicians, regardless of party, love gerrymandering because they want to pick who votes for them so they can stay in power forever.

They did talk about it all the time, and twice passed bills out of the House that were killed in the Senate by McConnell and the GOP. What was your point?

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else think the Republican whining is a bit…unseemly? I can’t help but thinking about the little pipsqeak on the playground who bullies the big kid for years, then cries bloody murder when the big kid punches him back once and knocks him flat on his back.

AOC said it best when she said, “Wah wah wah.” I can’t help but see children every time I see Republican white men whining about injustice.

This is going to result in Democrats winning 10 of Virginia's 11 House districts. Reminder: Virginia is purple state. That's completely ridiculous. Why don't you just ban Republicans from voting altogether?

Politicians gaming the rules to nullify the votes of people they don't like is some shady fkcng business, and this genie does not go back in the bottle. When Republicans come back into power, as they inevitably will, I'm surely they do the same thing to Democrats, but worse. It's never just tit for tat.

Gerrymandering is stupid. It disenfranchises voters. It makes Congress *completely* dysfunctional. And it sets off an endless cycle of retribution between the parties. All if this is especially dumb because Democrats are going to win the House and Senate, anyway, even without this.

The people who support this are effectively voting to disenfranchise people they don't agree with. When democracy in America ends, you can say you did your small part.

What do you think would have been an appropriate response to Texas’ efforts to pass laws that VA must abide by, having supressed its voters?

DP. Something that follows the law would have been a good start. The VA Dems tried to cheat to try do their cheating. You can’t make this stuff up.

This followed the law.

Giving 10 out of 11 House seats to Democrats in an evenly divided state could hardly be more ridiculous.

There’s nothing in the law that says they can’t. Ask SCOTUS.

I agree it’s unfair. So I support the national band on political gerrymandering. Do you?

NP and yes.

Great! Call your republican member of congress (while they still have a job) because they’re the ones blocking it.

No, they're not. You know nothing about politics. A bill like this would never pass Congress regardless of which party is in charge.

Then call the D’s bluff.

Let’s see full R support and see what happens.

There is no bluff. You're just an idiot. Democrats will never support this. Neither will Republicans. No one in Congress is even seriously considering this.

Stop calling people idiots.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/For_the_People_Act

You should really try to learn the basics of politics and how Congress works before spouting off.

This bill passed the House five years ago, when Democrats controlled the entire government. They could have passed it into law, because they controlled the Senate and the White House, but they didn't because they didn't care all that much about it. It was a messaging bill. They had other things they actually cared about.

Second, the bill doesn't actually exist anymore, because all bills automatically die after two years. After two years, you have to start the whole process all over again. There is no bill just waiting for the Senate to be passed. Most of the bill who wrote that bill aren't even in Congress anymore. Many have since died or retired.

If Democrats who are currently in Congress wanted to do this, they could. They could write their own bill and try to rally support for it, and demand a vote. They haven't done any of that, because they don't care about this issue.

Dems have been working on this issue for years, reworking it many times.

Given the MAGA attacks on basic voting rights, the Dems have had bigger issues to fry and they have been pushing the SAVE Act and John Lewis Voting Rights Act.

But they do have a bill to address gerrymandering currently in the works:
https://thecensusproject.org/2025/11/07/the-redistricting-reform-act-s-2885-and-h-r-5449/
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/5449/text

Lawmakers introduce probably 8,000 per year, every year, on everything under the sun. Most of them are meaningless messaging bills that are just designed to signal that a lawmakers cares about an issue. But they make zero effort to actually pass them. If Democrats actually wanted to ban redistricting you would hear the leadership talking about it all the time. The Speaker would be asking why this bill isn't on the floor. They would be gathering signatures for discharge petitions. They would be offering restricting amendments to the reconcilation bill that just passed the Senate. None of that is happening because all politicians, regardless of party, love gerrymandering because they want to pick who votes for them so they can stay in power forever.

So disingenuous.

Dems did talk about it extensively when they were in power and they did push it. The House passed it.

Not one Republican Senator supported it though so here we are.

What are you even talking about? Democrats made literally zero effort to pass the bill. It never went through committee. They never debated it. They never attempted to bring it to the floor. They never tried to have a vote. They never forced Republicans to kill it. They did none of that because it wasn't a priority -- not then and not now. And stop with the filibuster nonsense. It is extremely, extremely rare for either party to have 60 votes. It's only happened maybe twice in the past 100 years. Yet Congress constantly makes new laws.

Huh?

Outside of spending or nominations, almost every bill needs bipartisan support to reach the 60 votes to end debate in the Senate.
https://bipartisanpolicy.org/explainer/senate-filibuster-explained/

And they have had a vote on it:
https://www.texastribune.org/2021/10/20/federal-voting-bill-texas/
“In a 49-51 vote, the legislation came short of the 60-vote majority needed to advance debate on the bill and avoid a Senate filibuster. This comes after Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell said Tuesday that it was his “hope and anticipation” that no Republicans would vote for the latest iteration of voting rights bill.”

I'll never understand why Republicans try to lie about things that can be so easily falsified.

They don’t feel constrained by facts or reality.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else think the Republican whining is a bit…unseemly? I can’t help but thinking about the little pipsqeak on the playground who bullies the big kid for years, then cries bloody murder when the big kid punches him back once and knocks him flat on his back.

AOC said it best when she said, “Wah wah wah.” I can’t help but see children every time I see Republican white men whining about injustice.

This is going to result in Democrats winning 10 of Virginia's 11 House districts. Reminder: Virginia is purple state. That's completely ridiculous. Why don't you just ban Republicans from voting altogether?

Politicians gaming the rules to nullify the votes of people they don't like is some shady fkcng business, and this genie does not go back in the bottle. When Republicans come back into power, as they inevitably will, I'm surely they do the same thing to Democrats, but worse. It's never just tit for tat.

Gerrymandering is stupid. It disenfranchises voters. It makes Congress *completely* dysfunctional. And it sets off an endless cycle of retribution between the parties. All if this is especially dumb because Democrats are going to win the House and Senate, anyway, even without this.

The people who support this are effectively voting to disenfranchise people they don't agree with. When democracy in America ends, you can say you did your small part.

What do you think would have been an appropriate response to Texas’ efforts to pass laws that VA must abide by, having supressed its voters?

DP. Something that follows the law would have been a good start. The VA Dems tried to cheat to try do their cheating. You can’t make this stuff up.

This followed the law.

Giving 10 out of 11 House seats to Democrats in an evenly divided state could hardly be more ridiculous.

There’s nothing in the law that says they can’t. Ask SCOTUS.

I agree it’s unfair. So I support the national band on political gerrymandering. Do you?

NP and yes.

Great! Call your republican member of congress (while they still have a job) because they’re the ones blocking it.

No, they're not. You know nothing about politics. A bill like this would never pass Congress regardless of which party is in charge.

Then call the D’s bluff.

Let’s see full R support and see what happens.

There is no bluff. You're just an idiot. Democrats will never support this. Neither will Republicans. No one in Congress is even seriously considering this.

Stop calling people idiots.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/For_the_People_Act

You should really try to learn the basics of politics and how Congress works before spouting off.

This bill passed the House five years ago, when Democrats controlled the entire government. They could have passed it into law, because they controlled the Senate and the White House, but they didn't because they didn't care all that much about it. It was a messaging bill. They had other things they actually cared about.

Second, the bill doesn't actually exist anymore, because all bills automatically die after two years. After two years, you have to start the whole process all over again. There is no bill just waiting for the Senate to be passed. Most of the bill who wrote that bill aren't even in Congress anymore. Many have since died or retired.

If Democrats who are currently in Congress wanted to do this, they could. They could write their own bill and try to rally support for it, and demand a vote. They haven't done any of that, because they don't care about this issue.

Dems have been working on this issue for years, reworking it many times.

Given the MAGA attacks on basic voting rights, the Dems have had bigger issues to fry and they have been pushing the SAVE Act and John Lewis Voting Rights Act.

But they do have a bill to address gerrymandering currently in the works:
https://thecensusproject.org/2025/11/07/the-redistricting-reform-act-s-2885-and-h-r-5449/
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/5449/text

Lawmakers introduce probably 8,000 per year, every year, on everything under the sun. Most of them are meaningless messaging bills that are just designed to signal that a lawmakers cares about an issue. But they make zero effort to actually pass them. If Democrats actually wanted to ban redistricting you would hear the leadership talking about it all the time. The Speaker would be asking why this bill isn't on the floor. They would be gathering signatures for discharge petitions. They would be offering restricting amendments to the reconcilation bill that just passed the Senate. None of that is happening because all politicians, regardless of party, love gerrymandering because they want to pick who votes for them so they can stay in power forever.

So disingenuous.

Dems did talk about it extensively when they were in power and they did push it. The House passed it.

Not one Republican Senator supported it though so here we are.

What are you even talking about? Democrats made literally zero effort to pass the bill. It never went through committee. They never debated it. They never attempted to bring it to the floor. They never tried to have a vote. They never forced Republicans to kill it. They did none of that because it wasn't a priority -- not then and not now. And stop with the filibuster nonsense. It is extremely, extremely rare for either party to have 60 votes. It's only happened maybe twice in the past 100 years. Yet Congress constantly makes new laws.

Huh?

The dems have passed bills in the House to ban gerrymandering. In multiple occasions, it was killed in the Senate for lack of GOP Support. Maybe do a little research on this. I mean, there are several "blue" states like Colorado and Oregon, who have independent commissions that draw the lines. By law, they cannot gerrymander and thus cannot participate in this current free for all. See how democrats hurt themselves by trying to be fair? Both states could easily have zero GOP representation given city populations.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else think the Republican whining is a bit…unseemly? I can’t help but thinking about the little pipsqeak on the playground who bullies the big kid for years, then cries bloody murder when the big kid punches him back once and knocks him flat on his back.

AOC said it best when she said, “Wah wah wah.” I can’t help but see children every time I see Republican white men whining about injustice.

This is going to result in Democrats winning 10 of Virginia's 11 House districts. Reminder: Virginia is purple state. That's completely ridiculous. Why don't you just ban Republicans from voting altogether?

Politicians gaming the rules to nullify the votes of people they don't like is some shady fkcng business, and this genie does not go back in the bottle. When Republicans come back into power, as they inevitably will, I'm surely they do the same thing to Democrats, but worse. It's never just tit for tat.

Gerrymandering is stupid. It disenfranchises voters. It makes Congress *completely* dysfunctional. And it sets off an endless cycle of retribution between the parties. All if this is especially dumb because Democrats are going to win the House and Senate, anyway, even without this.

The people who support this are effectively voting to disenfranchise people they don't agree with. When democracy in America ends, you can say you did your small part.

What do you think would have been an appropriate response to Texas’ efforts to pass laws that VA must abide by, having supressed its voters?

DP. Something that follows the law would have been a good start. The VA Dems tried to cheat to try do their cheating. You can’t make this stuff up.

This followed the law.

Giving 10 out of 11 House seats to Democrats in an evenly divided state could hardly be more ridiculous.

There’s nothing in the law that says they can’t. Ask SCOTUS.

I agree it’s unfair. So I support the national band on political gerrymandering. Do you?

NP and yes.

Great! Call your republican member of congress (while they still have a job) because they’re the ones blocking it.

No, they're not. You know nothing about politics. A bill like this would never pass Congress regardless of which party is in charge.

Then call the D’s bluff.

Let’s see full R support and see what happens.

There is no bluff. You're just an idiot. Democrats will never support this. Neither will Republicans. No one in Congress is even seriously considering this.

Stop calling people idiots.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/For_the_People_Act

You should really try to learn the basics of politics and how Congress works before spouting off.

This bill passed the House five years ago, when Democrats controlled the entire government. They could have passed it into law, because they controlled the Senate and the White House, but they didn't because they didn't care all that much about it. It was a messaging bill. They had other things they actually cared about.

Second, the bill doesn't actually exist anymore, because all bills automatically die after two years. After two years, you have to start the whole process all over again. There is no bill just waiting for the Senate to be passed. Most of the bill who wrote that bill aren't even in Congress anymore. Many have since died or retired.

If Democrats who are currently in Congress wanted to do this, they could. They could write their own bill and try to rally support for it, and demand a vote. They haven't done any of that, because they don't care about this issue.

Dems have been working on this issue for years, reworking it many times.

Given the MAGA attacks on basic voting rights, the Dems have had bigger issues to fry and they have been pushing the SAVE Act and John Lewis Voting Rights Act.

But they do have a bill to address gerrymandering currently in the works:
https://thecensusproject.org/2025/11/07/the-redistricting-reform-act-s-2885-and-h-r-5449/
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/5449/text

Lawmakers introduce probably 8,000 per year, every year, on everything under the sun. Most of them are meaningless messaging bills that are just designed to signal that a lawmakers cares about an issue. But they make zero effort to actually pass them. If Democrats actually wanted to ban redistricting you would hear the leadership talking about it all the time. The Speaker would be asking why this bill isn't on the floor. They would be gathering signatures for discharge petitions. They would be offering restricting amendments to the reconcilation bill that just passed the Senate. None of that is happening because all politicians, regardless of party, love gerrymandering because they want to pick who votes for them so they can stay in power forever.

This is almost correct. Republicans love gerrymandering. Democrats have consistently proposed bills that ban partisan gerrymandering nationwide, but Republicans don't support them.

Look, if there was something Republicans hated in the bill Democrats have proposed, they could strip them out and pass it tomorrow. Republicans have a trifecta right now. Democrats have already passed bills against gerrymandering. Republicans could ban gerrymandering tomorrow if they wanted to! For all the performative bellyaching, it's clear they're not even remotely interested in matters of representation or fairness. They're just whining because their side lost.

Hard to keep track of all the double speak here. So it's bad on Republicans because aren't banning redistricting when they control the House and Senate and White House, and it's also Republicans' fault that Democrats didn't ban redistricting when they controlled the House and Senate and White House in 2021?

What was happening in 2021 that maybe required a little more legislative priority in 2021?

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If Democrats who are currently in Congress wanted to do this, they could. They could write their own bill and try to rally support for it, and demand a vote. They haven't done any of that, because they don't care about this issue.

How TF are the Democrats who are in the minority in both houses of Congress right now supposed to get any anti-gerrymandering legislation passed when the Republicans are the ones who won’t vote for it? You can’t “demand a vote” to even get something onto the House floor, this feckless Speaker won’t allow anything Trump doesn’t like so the only thing happening is via discharge petitions.

Exactly.

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Anonymous wrote:Make DC square!

What a way to piss off tens of thousands of VA resident, force DC statehood and still be losing VA to blue voters....go for it!

Do you really think PW, Fairfax and Loudoun wouldn't still carry VA?

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else think the Republican whining is a bit…unseemly? I can’t help but thinking about the little pipsqeak on the playground who bullies the big kid for years, then cries bloody murder when the big kid punches him back once and knocks him flat on his back.

AOC said it best when she said, “Wah wah wah.” I can’t help but see children every time I see Republican white men whining about injustice.

This is going to result in Democrats winning 10 of Virginia's 11 House districts. Reminder: Virginia is purple state. That's completely ridiculous. Why don't you just ban Republicans from voting altogether?

Politicians gaming the rules to nullify the votes of people they don't like is some shady fkcng business, and this genie does not go back in the bottle. When Republicans come back into power, as they inevitably will, I'm surely they do the same thing to Democrats, but worse. It's never just tit for tat.

Gerrymandering is stupid. It disenfranchises voters. It makes Congress *completely* dysfunctional. And it sets off an endless cycle of retribution between the parties. All if this is especially dumb because Democrats are going to win the House and Senate, anyway, even without this.

The people who support this are effectively voting to disenfranchise people they don't agree with. When democracy in America ends, you can say you did your small part.

What do you think would have been an appropriate response to Texas’ efforts to pass laws that VA must abide by, having supressed its voters?

DP. Something that follows the law would have been a good start. The VA Dems tried to cheat to try do their cheating. You can’t make this stuff up.

This followed the law.

Giving 10 out of 11 House seats to Democrats in an evenly divided state could hardly be more ridiculous.

There’s nothing in the law that says they can’t. Ask SCOTUS.

I agree it’s unfair. So I support the national band on political gerrymandering. Do you?

NP and yes.

Great! Call your republican member of congress (while they still have a job) because they’re the ones blocking it.

No, they're not. You know nothing about politics. A bill like this would never pass Congress regardless of which party is in charge.

Then call the D’s bluff.

Let’s see full R support and see what happens.

There is no bluff. You're just an idiot. Democrats will never support this. Neither will Republicans. No one in Congress is even seriously considering this.

Stop calling people idiots.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/For_the_People_Act

You should really try to learn the basics of politics and how Congress works before spouting off.

This bill passed the House five years ago, when Democrats controlled the entire government. They could have passed it into law, because they controlled the Senate and the White House, but they didn't because they didn't care all that much about it. It was a messaging bill. They had other things they actually cared about.

Second, the bill doesn't actually exist anymore, because all bills automatically die after two years. After two years, you have to start the whole process all over again. There is no bill just waiting for the Senate to be passed. Most of the bill who wrote that bill aren't even in Congress anymore. Many have since died or retired.

If Democrats who are currently in Congress wanted to do this, they could. They could write their own bill and try to rally support for it, and demand a vote. They haven't done any of that, because they don't care about this issue.

Dems have been working on this issue for years, reworking it many times.

Given the MAGA attacks on basic voting rights, the Dems have had bigger issues to fry and they have been pushing the SAVE Act and John Lewis Voting Rights Act.

But they do have a bill to address gerrymandering currently in the works:
https://thecensusproject.org/2025/11/07/the-redistricting-reform-act-s-2885-and-h-r-5449/
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/5449/text

Lawmakers introduce probably 8,000 per year, every year, on everything under the sun. Most of them are meaningless messaging bills that are just designed to signal that a lawmakers cares about an issue. But they make zero effort to actually pass them. If Democrats actually wanted to ban redistricting you would hear the leadership talking about it all the time. The Speaker would be asking why this bill isn't on the floor. They would be gathering signatures for discharge petitions. They would be offering restricting amendments to the reconcilation bill that just passed the Senate. None of that is happening because all politicians, regardless of party, love gerrymandering because they want to pick who votes for them so they can stay in power forever.

This is almost correct. Republicans love gerrymandering. Democrats have consistently proposed bills that ban partisan gerrymandering nationwide, but Republicans don't support them.

Look, if there was something Republicans hated in the bill Democrats have proposed, they could strip them out and pass it tomorrow. Republicans have a trifecta right now. Democrats have already passed bills against gerrymandering. Republicans could ban gerrymandering tomorrow if they wanted to! For all the performative bellyaching, it's clear they're not even remotely interested in matters of representation or fairness. They're just whining because their side lost.

Hard to keep track of all the double speak here. So it's bad on Republicans because aren't banning redistricting when they control the House and Senate and White House, and it's also Republicans' fault that Democrats didn't ban redistricting when they controlled the House and Senate and White House in 2021?

And it's Democrats who are the good guys on redistricting even though they're changing the map midcycle, via a deceptive ballot initiative, to give themselves 91 percent of Virginia's 11 House seats, even though it's a 50-50 state.

Virginia saw how Trump ordered red states to gerrymander mid-cycle.

Then, Virginia saw TX, MO, NC, OH all working to steal D seats.

Virginia grew a pair and decided to fight back. So here we are.

Don’t like it? Take it up with Trump.

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Anonymous wrote:Make DC square!

What a way to piss off tens of thousands of VA resident, force DC statehood and still be losing VA to blue voters....go for it!

Do you really think PW, Fairfax and Loudoun wouldn't still carry VA?

+1

Arlington is tiny.

And DC statehood would add more blue votes to Congress.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else think the Republican whining is a bit…unseemly? I can’t help but thinking about the little pipsqeak on the playground who bullies the big kid for years, then cries bloody murder when the big kid punches him back once and knocks him flat on his back.

AOC said it best when she said, “Wah wah wah.” I can’t help but see children every time I see Republican white men whining about injustice.

This is going to result in Democrats winning 10 of Virginia's 11 House districts. Reminder: Virginia is purple state. That's completely ridiculous. Why don't you just ban Republicans from voting altogether?

Politicians gaming the rules to nullify the votes of people they don't like is some shady fkcng business, and this genie does not go back in the bottle. When Republicans come back into power, as they inevitably will, I'm surely they do the same thing to Democrats, but worse. It's never just tit for tat.

Gerrymandering is stupid. It disenfranchises voters. It makes Congress *completely* dysfunctional. And it sets off an endless cycle of retribution between the parties. All if this is especially dumb because Democrats are going to win the House and Senate, anyway, even without this.

The people who support this are effectively voting to disenfranchise people they don't agree with. When democracy in America ends, you can say you did your small part.

What do you think would have been an appropriate response to Texas’ efforts to pass laws that VA must abide by, having supressed its voters?

DP. Something that follows the law would have been a good start. The VA Dems tried to cheat to try do their cheating. You can’t make this stuff up.

This followed the law.

Giving 10 out of 11 House seats to Democrats in an evenly divided state could hardly be more ridiculous.

There’s nothing in the law that says they can’t. Ask SCOTUS.

I agree it’s unfair. So I support the national band on political gerrymandering. Do you?

NP and yes.

Great! Call your republican member of congress (while they still have a job) because they’re the ones blocking it.

No, they're not. You know nothing about politics. A bill like this would never pass Congress regardless of which party is in charge.

Then call the D’s bluff.

Let’s see full R support and see what happens.

There is no bluff. You're just an idiot. Democrats will never support this. Neither will Republicans. No one in Congress is even seriously considering this.

Stop calling people idiots.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/For_the_People_Act

You should really try to learn the basics of politics and how Congress works before spouting off.

This bill passed the House five years ago, when Democrats controlled the entire government. They could have passed it into law, because they controlled the Senate and the White House, but they didn't because they didn't care all that much about it. It was a messaging bill. They had other things they actually cared about.

Second, the bill doesn't actually exist anymore, because all bills automatically die after two years. After two years, you have to start the whole process all over again. There is no bill just waiting for the Senate to be passed. Most of the bill who wrote that bill aren't even in Congress anymore. Many have since died or retired.

If Democrats who are currently in Congress wanted to do this, they could. They could write their own bill and try to rally support for it, and demand a vote. They haven't done any of that, because they don't care about this issue.

Dems have been working on this issue for years, reworking it many times.

Given the MAGA attacks on basic voting rights, the Dems have had bigger issues to fry and they have been pushing the SAVE Act and John Lewis Voting Rights Act.

But they do have a bill to address gerrymandering currently in the works:
https://thecensusproject.org/2025/11/07/the-redistricting-reform-act-s-2885-and-h-r-5449/
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/5449/text

Lawmakers introduce probably 8,000 per year, every year, on everything under the sun. Most of them are meaningless messaging bills that are just designed to signal that a lawmakers cares about an issue. But they make zero effort to actually pass them. If Democrats actually wanted to ban redistricting you would hear the leadership talking about it all the time. The Speaker would be asking why this bill isn't on the floor. They would be gathering signatures for discharge petitions. They would be offering restricting amendments to the reconcilation bill that just passed the Senate. None of that is happening because all politicians, regardless of party, love gerrymandering because they want to pick who votes for them so they can stay in power forever.

Who do you think is the Speaker of the House of Representatives right now?

Typo. Jeffries.

You might want to check that.

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This REALLY didn’t age well.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else think the Republican whining is a bit…unseemly? I can’t help but thinking about the little pipsqeak on the playground who bullies the big kid for years, then cries bloody murder when the big kid punches him back once and knocks him flat on his back.

AOC said it best when she said, “Wah wah wah.” I can’t help but see children every time I see Republican white men whining about injustice.

This is going to result in Democrats winning 10 of Virginia's 11 House districts. Reminder: Virginia is purple state. That's completely ridiculous. Why don't you just ban Republicans from voting altogether?

Politicians gaming the rules to nullify the votes of people they don't like is some shady fkcng business, and this genie does not go back in the bottle. When Republicans come back into power, as they inevitably will, I'm surely they do the same thing to Democrats, but worse. It's never just tit for tat.

Gerrymandering is stupid. It disenfranchises voters. It makes Congress *completely* dysfunctional. And it sets off an endless cycle of retribution between the parties. All if this is especially dumb because Democrats are going to win the House and Senate, anyway, even without this.

The people who support this are effectively voting to disenfranchise people they don't agree with. When democracy in America ends, you can say you did your small part.

What do you think would have been an appropriate response to Texas’ efforts to pass laws that VA must abide by, having supressed its voters?

DP. Something that follows the law would have been a good start. The VA Dems tried to cheat to try do their cheating. You can’t make this stuff up.

This followed the law.

Giving 10 out of 11 House seats to Democrats in an evenly divided state could hardly be more ridiculous.

There’s nothing in the law that says they can’t. Ask SCOTUS.

I agree it’s unfair. So I support the national band on political gerrymandering. Do you?

NP and yes.

Great! Call your republican member of congress (while they still have a job) because they’re the ones blocking it.

No, they're not. You know nothing about politics. A bill like this would never pass Congress regardless of which party is in charge.

Then call the D’s bluff.

Let’s see full R support and see what happens.

There is no bluff. You're just an idiot. Democrats will never support this. Neither will Republicans. No one in Congress is even seriously considering this.

Stop calling people idiots.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/For_the_People_Act

You should really try to learn the basics of politics and how Congress works before spouting off.

This bill passed the House five years ago, when Democrats controlled the entire government. They could have passed it into law, because they controlled the Senate and the White House, but they didn't because they didn't care all that much about it. It was a messaging bill. They had other things they actually cared about.

Second, the bill doesn't actually exist anymore, because all bills automatically die after two years. After two years, you have to start the whole process all over again. There is no bill just waiting for the Senate to be passed. Most of the bill who wrote that bill aren't even in Congress anymore. Many have since died or retired.

If Democrats who are currently in Congress wanted to do this, they could. They could write their own bill and try to rally support for it, and demand a vote. They haven't done any of that, because they don't care about this issue.

Dems have been working on this issue for years, reworking it many times.

Given the MAGA attacks on basic voting rights, the Dems have had bigger issues to fry and they have been pushing the SAVE Act and John Lewis Voting Rights Act.

But they do have a bill to address gerrymandering currently in the works:
https://thecensusproject.org/2025/11/07/the-redistricting-reform-act-s-2885-and-h-r-5449/
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/5449/text

Lawmakers introduce probably 8,000 per year, every year, on everything under the sun. Most of them are meaningless messaging bills that are just designed to signal that a lawmakers cares about an issue. But they make zero effort to actually pass them. If Democrats actually wanted to ban redistricting you would hear the leadership talking about it all the time. The Speaker would be asking why this bill isn't on the floor. They would be gathering signatures for discharge petitions. They would be offering restricting amendments to the reconcilation bill that just passed the Senate. None of that is happening because all politicians, regardless of party, love gerrymandering because they want to pick who votes for them so they can stay in power forever.

This is almost correct. Republicans love gerrymandering. Democrats have consistently proposed bills that ban partisan gerrymandering nationwide, but Republicans don't support them.

Look, if there was something Republicans hated in the bill Democrats have proposed, they could strip them out and pass it tomorrow. Republicans have a trifecta right now. Democrats have already passed bills against gerrymandering. Republicans could ban gerrymandering tomorrow if they wanted to! For all the performative bellyaching, it's clear they're not even remotely interested in matters of representation or fairness. They're just whining because their side lost.

Hard to keep track of all the double speak here. So it's bad on Republicans because aren't banning redistricting when they control the House and Senate and White House, and it's also Republicans' fault that Democrats didn't ban redistricting when they controlled the House and Senate and White House in 2021?

And it's Democrats who are the good guys on redistricting even though they're changing the map midcycle, via a deceptive ballot initiative, to give themselves 91 percent of Virginia's 11 House seats, even though it's a 50-50 state.

Virginia saw how Trump ordered red states to gerrymander mid-cycle.

Then, Virginia saw TX, MO, NC, OH all working to steal D seats.

Virginia grew a pair and decided to fight back. So here we are.

Don’t like it? Take it up with Trump.

This cycle of "they did it first so we have to do it too and we can't unilaterally disarm" is how all of our institutions in government will disintegrate. Redistricting will get more and more extreme, and more frequent. The filibuster in the Senate will be abolished. Politicians in both parties will start ignoring the law, and the courts, because they'll say Trump did it first, and if he did it, then why can't they? These genies don't go back into bottles. Bad precedents get normalized and what's even considered bad behavior gets defined down. It's a terrible road to go down.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else think the Republican whining is a bit…unseemly? I can’t help but thinking about the little pipsqeak on the playground who bullies the big kid for years, then cries bloody murder when the big kid punches him back once and knocks him flat on his back.

AOC said it best when she said, “Wah wah wah.” I can’t help but see children every time I see Republican white men whining about injustice.

This is going to result in Democrats winning 10 of Virginia's 11 House districts. Reminder: Virginia is purple state. That's completely ridiculous. Why don't you just ban Republicans from voting altogether?

Politicians gaming the rules to nullify the votes of people they don't like is some shady fkcng business, and this genie does not go back in the bottle. When Republicans come back into power, as they inevitably will, I'm surely they do the same thing to Democrats, but worse. It's never just tit for tat.

Gerrymandering is stupid. It disenfranchises voters. It makes Congress *completely* dysfunctional. And it sets off an endless cycle of retribution between the parties. All if this is especially dumb because Democrats are going to win the House and Senate, anyway, even without this.

The people who support this are effectively voting to disenfranchise people they don't agree with. When democracy in America ends, you can say you did your small part.

What do you think would have been an appropriate response to Texas’ efforts to pass laws that VA must abide by, having supressed its voters?

DP. Something that follows the law would have been a good start. The VA Dems tried to cheat to try do their cheating. You can’t make this stuff up.

This followed the law.

Giving 10 out of 11 House seats to Democrats in an evenly divided state could hardly be more ridiculous.

There’s nothing in the law that says they can’t. Ask SCOTUS.

I agree it’s unfair. So I support the national band on political gerrymandering. Do you?

NP and yes.

Great! Call your republican member of congress (while they still have a job) because they’re the ones blocking it.

No, they're not. You know nothing about politics. A bill like this would never pass Congress regardless of which party is in charge.

Then call the D’s bluff.

Let’s see full R support and see what happens.

There is no bluff. You're just an idiot. Democrats will never support this. Neither will Republicans. No one in Congress is even seriously considering this.

Stop calling people idiots.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/For_the_People_Act

You should really try to learn the basics of politics and how Congress works before spouting off.

This bill passed the House five years ago, when Democrats controlled the entire government. They could have passed it into law, because they controlled the Senate and the White House, but they didn't because they didn't care all that much about it. It was a messaging bill. They had other things they actually cared about.

Second, the bill doesn't actually exist anymore, because all bills automatically die after two years. After two years, you have to start the whole process all over again. There is no bill just waiting for the Senate to be passed. Most of the bill who wrote that bill aren't even in Congress anymore. Many have since died or retired.

If Democrats who are currently in Congress wanted to do this, they could. They could write their own bill and try to rally support for it, and demand a vote. They haven't done any of that, because they don't care about this issue.

Dems have been working on this issue for years, reworking it many times.

Given the MAGA attacks on basic voting rights, the Dems have had bigger issues to fry and they have been pushing the SAVE Act and John Lewis Voting Rights Act.

But they do have a bill to address gerrymandering currently in the works:
https://thecensusproject.org/2025/11/07/the-redistricting-reform-act-s-2885-and-h-r-5449/
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/5449/text

Lawmakers introduce probably 8,000 per year, every year, on everything under the sun. Most of them are meaningless messaging bills that are just designed to signal that a lawmakers cares about an issue. But they make zero effort to actually pass them. If Democrats actually wanted to ban redistricting you would hear the leadership talking about it all the time. The Speaker would be asking why this bill isn't on the floor. They would be gathering signatures for discharge petitions. They would be offering restricting amendments to the reconcilation bill that just passed the Senate. None of that is happening because all politicians, regardless of party, love gerrymandering because they want to pick who votes for them so they can stay in power forever.

This is almost correct. Republicans love gerrymandering. Democrats have consistently proposed bills that ban partisan gerrymandering nationwide, but Republicans don't support them.

Look, if there was something Republicans hated in the bill Democrats have proposed, they could strip them out and pass it tomorrow. Republicans have a trifecta right now. Democrats have already passed bills against gerrymandering. Republicans could ban gerrymandering tomorrow if they wanted to! For all the performative bellyaching, it's clear they're not even remotely interested in matters of representation or fairness. They're just whining because their side lost.

Hard to keep track of all the double speak here. So it's bad on Republicans because aren't banning redistricting when they control the House and Senate and White House, and it's also Republicans' fault that Democrats didn't ban redistricting when they controlled the House and Senate and White House in 2021?

And it's Democrats who are the good guys on redistricting even though they're changing the map midcycle, via a deceptive ballot initiative, to give themselves 91 percent of Virginia's 11 House seats, even though it's a 50-50 state.

Virginia saw how Trump ordered red states to gerrymander mid-cycle.

Then, Virginia saw TX, MO, NC, OH all working to steal D seats.

Virginia grew a pair and decided to fight back. So here we are.

Don’t like it? Take it up with Trump.

This cycle of "they did it first so we have to do it too and we can't unilaterally disarm" is how all of our institutions in government will disintegrate. Redistricting will get more and more extreme, and more frequent. The filibuster in the Senate will be abolished. Politicians in both parties will start ignoring the law, and the courts, because they'll say Trump did it first, and if he did it, then why can't they? These genies don't go back into bottles. Bad precedents get normalized and what's even considered bad behavior gets defined down. It's a terrible road to go down.

I agree but the Democrats have spent years trying to be the party of norms while the Republicans have been crashing and burning everything in sight. I refuse to accept blame when we finally do something about it.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else think the Republican whining is a bit…unseemly? I can’t help but thinking about the little pipsqeak on the playground who bullies the big kid for years, then cries bloody murder when the big kid punches him back once and knocks him flat on his back.

AOC said it best when she said, “Wah wah wah.” I can’t help but see children every time I see Republican white men whining about injustice.

This is going to result in Democrats winning 10 of Virginia's 11 House districts. Reminder: Virginia is purple state. That's completely ridiculous. Why don't you just ban Republicans from voting altogether?

Politicians gaming the rules to nullify the votes of people they don't like is some shady fkcng business, and this genie does not go back in the bottle. When Republicans come back into power, as they inevitably will, I'm surely they do the same thing to Democrats, but worse. It's never just tit for tat.

Gerrymandering is stupid. It disenfranchises voters. It makes Congress *completely* dysfunctional. And it sets off an endless cycle of retribution between the parties. All if this is especially dumb because Democrats are going to win the House and Senate, anyway, even without this.

The people who support this are effectively voting to disenfranchise people they don't agree with. When democracy in America ends, you can say you did your small part.

What do you think would have been an appropriate response to Texas’ efforts to pass laws that VA must abide by, having supressed its voters?

DP. Something that follows the law would have been a good start. The VA Dems tried to cheat to try do their cheating. You can’t make this stuff up.

This followed the law.

Giving 10 out of 11 House seats to Democrats in an evenly divided state could hardly be more ridiculous.

There’s nothing in the law that says they can’t. Ask SCOTUS.

I agree it’s unfair. So I support the national band on political gerrymandering. Do you?

NP and yes.

Great! Call your republican member of congress (while they still have a job) because they’re the ones blocking it.

No, they're not. You know nothing about politics. A bill like this would never pass Congress regardless of which party is in charge.

Then call the D’s bluff.

Let’s see full R support and see what happens.

There is no bluff. You're just an idiot. Democrats will never support this. Neither will Republicans. No one in Congress is even seriously considering this.

Stop calling people idiots.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/For_the_People_Act

You should really try to learn the basics of politics and how Congress works before spouting off.

This bill passed the House five years ago, when Democrats controlled the entire government. They could have passed it into law, because they controlled the Senate and the White House, but they didn't because they didn't care all that much about it. It was a messaging bill. They had other things they actually cared about.

Second, the bill doesn't actually exist anymore, because all bills automatically die after two years. After two years, you have to start the whole process all over again. There is no bill just waiting for the Senate to be passed. Most of the bill who wrote that bill aren't even in Congress anymore. Many have since died or retired.

If Democrats who are currently in Congress wanted to do this, they could. They could write their own bill and try to rally support for it, and demand a vote. They haven't done any of that, because they don't care about this issue.

Dems have been working on this issue for years, reworking it many times.

Given the MAGA attacks on basic voting rights, the Dems have had bigger issues to fry and they have been pushing the SAVE Act and John Lewis Voting Rights Act.

But they do have a bill to address gerrymandering currently in the works:
https://thecensusproject.org/2025/11/07/the-redistricting-reform-act-s-2885-and-h-r-5449/
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/5449/text

Lawmakers introduce probably 8,000 per year, every year, on everything under the sun. Most of them are meaningless messaging bills that are just designed to signal that a lawmakers cares about an issue. But they make zero effort to actually pass them. If Democrats actually wanted to ban redistricting you would hear the leadership talking about it all the time. The Speaker would be asking why this bill isn't on the floor. They would be gathering signatures for discharge petitions. They would be offering restricting amendments to the reconcilation bill that just passed the Senate. None of that is happening because all politicians, regardless of party, love gerrymandering because they want to pick who votes for them so they can stay in power forever.

This is almost correct. Republicans love gerrymandering. Democrats have consistently proposed bills that ban partisan gerrymandering nationwide, but Republicans don't support them.

Look, if there was something Republicans hated in the bill Democrats have proposed, they could strip them out and pass it tomorrow. Republicans have a trifecta right now. Democrats have already passed bills against gerrymandering. Republicans could ban gerrymandering tomorrow if they wanted to! For all the performative bellyaching, it's clear they're not even remotely interested in matters of representation or fairness. They're just whining because their side lost.

Hard to keep track of all the double speak here. So it's bad on Republicans because aren't banning redistricting when they control the House and Senate and White House, and it's also Republicans' fault that Democrats didn't ban redistricting when they controlled the House and Senate and White House in 2021?

And it's Democrats who are the good guys on redistricting even though they're changing the map midcycle, via a deceptive ballot initiative, to give themselves 91 percent of Virginia's 11 House seats, even though it's a 50-50 state.

Virginia saw how Trump ordered red states to gerrymander mid-cycle.

Then, Virginia saw TX, MO, NC, OH all working to steal D seats.

Virginia grew a pair and decided to fight back. So here we are.

Don’t like it? Take it up with Trump.

This cycle of "they did it first so we have to do it too and we can't unilaterally disarm" is how all of our institutions in government will disintegrate. Redistricting will get more and more extreme, and more frequent. The filibuster in the Senate will be abolished. Politicians in both parties will start ignoring the law, and the courts, because they'll say Trump did it first, and if he did it, then why can't they? These genies don't go back into bottles. Bad precedents get normalized and what's even considered bad behavior gets defined down. It's a terrible road to go down.

I agree but the Democrats have spent years trying to be the party of norms while the Republicans have been crashing and burning everything in sight. I refuse to accept blame when we finally do something about it.

This good vs. evil view of the world seems very naive. Dems did all this shit too. They ignored laws before Trump came along. He just took what they did to a much, much greater extreme.

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AOC said it best when she said, “Wah wah wah.” I can’t help but see children every time I see Republican white men whining about injustice.

This is going to result in Democrats winning 10 of Virginia's 11 House districts. Reminder: Virginia is purple state. That's completely ridiculous. Why don't you just ban Republicans from voting altogether?

Politicians gaming the rules to nullify the votes of people they don't like is some shady fkcng business, and this genie does not go back in the bottle. When Republicans come back into power, as they inevitably will, I'm surely they do the same thing to Democrats, but worse. It's never just tit for tat.

Gerrymandering is stupid. It disenfranchises voters. It makes Congress *completely* dysfunctional. And it sets off an endless cycle of retribution between the parties. All if this is especially dumb because Democrats are going to win the House and Senate, anyway, even without this.

The people who support this are effectively voting to disenfranchise people they don't agree with. When democracy in America ends, you can say you did your small part.

What do you think would have been an appropriate response to Texas’ efforts to pass laws that VA must abide by, having supressed its voters?

DP. Something that follows the law would have been a good start. The VA Dems tried to cheat to try do their cheating. You can’t make this stuff up.

This followed the law.

Giving 10 out of 11 House seats to Democrats in an evenly divided state could hardly be more ridiculous.

There’s nothing in the law that says they can’t. Ask SCOTUS.

I agree it’s unfair. So I support the national band on political gerrymandering. Do you?

NP and yes.

Great! Call your republican member of congress (while they still have a job) because they’re the ones blocking it.

No, they're not. You know nothing about politics. A bill like this would never pass Congress regardless of which party is in charge.

Then call the D’s bluff.

Let’s see full R support and see what happens.

There is no bluff. You're just an idiot. Democrats will never support this. Neither will Republicans. No one in Congress is even seriously considering this.

Stop calling people idiots.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/For_the_People_Act

You should really try to learn the basics of politics and how Congress works before spouting off.

This bill passed the House five years ago, when Democrats controlled the entire government. They could have passed it into law, because they controlled the Senate and the White House, but they didn't because they didn't care all that much about it. It was a messaging bill. They had other things they actually cared about.

Second, the bill doesn't actually exist anymore, because all bills automatically die after two years. After two years, you have to start the whole process all over again. There is no bill just waiting for the Senate to be passed. Most of the bill who wrote that bill aren't even in Congress anymore. Many have since died or retired.

If Democrats who are currently in Congress wanted to do this, they could. They could write their own bill and try to rally support for it, and demand a vote. They haven't done any of that, because they don't care about this issue.

Dems have been working on this issue for years, reworking it many times.

Given the MAGA attacks on basic voting rights, the Dems have had bigger issues to fry and they have been pushing the SAVE Act and John Lewis Voting Rights Act.

But they do have a bill to address gerrymandering currently in the works:
https://thecensusproject.org/2025/11/07/the-redistricting-reform-act-s-2885-and-h-r-5449/
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/5449/text

Lawmakers introduce probably 8,000 per year, every year, on everything under the sun. Most of them are meaningless messaging bills that are just designed to signal that a lawmakers cares about an issue. But they make zero effort to actually pass them. If Democrats actually wanted to ban redistricting you would hear the leadership talking about it all the time. The Speaker would be asking why this bill isn't on the floor. They would be gathering signatures for discharge petitions. They would be offering restricting amendments to the reconcilation bill that just passed the Senate. None of that is happening because all politicians, regardless of party, love gerrymandering because they want to pick who votes for them so they can stay in power forever.

This is almost correct. Republicans love gerrymandering. Democrats have consistently proposed bills that ban partisan gerrymandering nationwide, but Republicans don't support them.

Look, if there was something Republicans hated in the bill Democrats have proposed, they could strip them out and pass it tomorrow. Republicans have a trifecta right now. Democrats have already passed bills against gerrymandering. Republicans could ban gerrymandering tomorrow if they wanted to! For all the performative bellyaching, it's clear they're not even remotely interested in matters of representation or fairness. They're just whining because their side lost.

Hard to keep track of all the double speak here. So it's bad on Republicans because aren't banning redistricting when they control the House and Senate and White House, and it's also Republicans' fault that Democrats didn't ban redistricting when they controlled the House and Senate and White House in 2021?

Dems can’t do it without R support (60 votes) whether they control the House/Senate or not.

So, yes, in both cases the Rs are the reason why we haven’t banned gerrymandering.

No that is a rule of the senate. The senate only requires a simple majority to pass any bill or law. We need to go back to that. If you want to filibuster you should be required to hold the floor.