Looks like a new Gaza war has started

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Anonymous wrote:How dehumanizing and shameful to hear this from a President that shills another nation’s propaganda, including “40 beheaded babies”

I have no notion that the Palestinians are telling the truth about how many people are killed. I’m sure innocents have been killed, and it’s a price of waging war. But I have no confidence in the number that the Palestinians are using,’ he said at the White House earlier today.

Propaganda that caused a 6 year old boy happily running to his landlords arms to embrace him to get stabbed over 50 times. Could you imagine that boys terror and confusion as a beloved adult stabs him to death because he heard Palestinians Behead babies ? Terrible and insidious propaganda.

Biden is disgusting and should be in an assisted living facility watching Jeopardy not leading the world. He is a tool

Right. So I’m assuming you were just as horrified on 10/7? Doubt it. I have a friend like you. Silence until it was one of “hers”. For some reason I doubt you cared about the innocent Israeli kids who were murdered that day.

I was here in this thread disgusted and mortified by the the attacks on 10/7, and I still am.

The only difference now is I am not sure if I believe all the initial claims about Hamas. I know it must be hard for you to believe but many in the younger demographic saw the information on social media change in real time
From 40 beheaded babies to Ben Shapiros post of a burned infant being flagged as an AI generated fake image to another person posting about a woman and her womb being cut out, and Twitter flagging the post as fake and actually being something that happened in the Palestinian Sabra and Sharina massacre of 2982.

We saw Biden/The White House walk back initial baby beheading claims . We saw Naftali/ the IDF walk back hospital bombing claims that they initially
Tweeted about in brag mode . When the world was mortified someone would actually bomb a hospital intentionally and brag about it, we saw the script change with convenient “confessional” audio from the sound proof temp controlled studios in a Gaza tunnel. We saw celebrities like Bieber and Jamie Lee Curtis post fake pictures of Israel that were actually of Gaza.

This has been a huge mess optics wise for Israel to those of us under 35 who don’t rely on cable news and use social media for news.

So you don’t believe Hamas killed 1,400 people?

I do and you know that? That is horrific enough for my senses. I didn’t need Ben Shapiro to post a disturbing AI image of a fake burned baby. Things like this is what made Gen Z /college generation question Israel. It shouldn’t have been this way. I believe Bibi and crew are such a hamfisted circular firing squad of screw ups that I’m not surprised Hamas has now “won” Gen Z.

It gets really bad if you’re on Tiktok and X. Israeli Tiktokers mocking Palestinians are going viral every second and so is a clip this morning of a man on Israeli television saying hostages should stop being interviewed in Israeli media because it’s good optics for Hamas.

An idiocy by Ben Shapiro made you “question Israel” but Hamas lying about bombing its own hospital made you gung ho about Hamas? It’s truly nobody’s fault but your own if you’re in your mid-30s and getting your foreign policy news from Tik Tok.

People can be anti-Israel AND anti-Hamas. Perhaps it boggles your mind that two thoughts can simultaneously exist in the same brain, but for most people it is possible.

Anti-Israel?

Israel is a terrorist state. Hamas is a terrorist group.

Both are trying to prove they can terrorize civilians more than the other. Israel is coming out ahead at the moment.

I don’t support terrorists. Period. (Even if they happen to be Jewish)

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And there you have it.

This is not about being pro-Palestinian rights and freedom. This is not about grief for the suffering of Palestinian civilians.

They don't want pro-Israel protester to exist.

I dare anyone to find a group of students at a mainstream American college who support Israel saying they don't want the Palestinians to exist, and they don't want the pot-Palestinian protesters to exist.

Shut it! Israel in its current form should not exist! There you have it! It is not antisemitism, it is not anti jewish. The state of Israel in its current form is a cancer! The world and jews would have been better off if Israel never existed. The creation of a Jewish state in the middle of the Arab world not only represents the continuation of European colonialism in Palestine, it has also consisted of the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians and the establishment of an apartheid system by a rogue nation that has repeatedly violated international law.

Given this history, the repeated claim made by the United States and other Western nations that Israel’s military actions are merely acts of self-defense contradicts the reality on the ground. Surely it is the violence carried out by people forced to live under a violent illegal military occupation and blockade that should be considered an act of self-defense. After all, the French Resistance to the Nazi occupation of France during World War Two is viewed as a heroic struggle for national liberation. In stark contrast, Palestinian resisters are labelled ‘terrorists.’
Despite the best efforts of the United States and other Western governments as well as the mainstream media to portray Israel as the victim in this conflict, the numbers make evident who is doing most of the killing and who is doing most of the dying. The fact that a people forced to live under an illegal foreign military occupation are portrayed as the aggressors constitutes a stunning example of Orwellian doublespeak.

ok thanks for making yourself clear. where should all the Jews in Israel go? And perhaps if Hamas did not want to be portrayed as an aggressor it should not have slaughtered a bunch of civilians.

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Where should all the Israelis go? I mean did anyone ask that question about Palestinians in 1948? Just saying.

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Anonymous wrote:Where should all the Israelis go? I mean did anyone ask that question about Palestinians in 1948? Just saying.

Your ignorance of basic history is stunning.

Just saying.

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Anonymous wrote:Where should all the Israelis go? I mean did anyone ask that question about Palestinians in 1948? Just saying.

So you think all the Jews in Israel should go where? Come on now, have the courage of your convictions.

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Anonymous wrote:How dehumanizing and shameful to hear this from a President that shills another nation’s propaganda, including “40 beheaded babies”

I have no notion that the Palestinians are telling the truth about how many people are killed. I’m sure innocents have been killed, and it’s a price of waging war. But I have no confidence in the number that the Palestinians are using,’ he said at the White House earlier today.

Propaganda that caused a 6 year old boy happily running to his landlords arms to embrace him to get stabbed over 50 times. Could you imagine that boys terror and confusion as a beloved adult stabs him to death because he heard Palestinians Behead babies ? Terrible and insidious propaganda.

Biden is disgusting and should be in an assisted living facility watching Jeopardy not leading the world. He is a tool

Right. So I’m assuming you were just as horrified on 10/7? Doubt it. I have a friend like you. Silence until it was one of “hers”. For some reason I doubt you cared about the innocent Israeli kids who were murdered that day.

I was here in this thread disgusted and mortified by the the attacks on 10/7, and I still am.

The only difference now is I am not sure if I believe all the initial claims about Hamas. I know it must be hard for you to believe but many in the younger demographic saw the information on social media change in real time
From 40 beheaded babies to Ben Shapiros post of a burned infant being flagged as an AI generated fake image to another person posting about a woman and her womb being cut out, and Twitter flagging the post as fake and actually being something that happened in the Palestinian Sabra and Sharina massacre of 2982.

We saw Biden/The White House walk back initial baby beheading claims . We saw Naftali/ the IDF walk back hospital bombing claims that they initially
Tweeted about in brag mode . When the world was mortified someone would actually bomb a hospital intentionally and brag about it, we saw the script change with convenient “confessional” audio from the sound proof temp controlled studios in a Gaza tunnel. We saw celebrities like Bieber and Jamie Lee Curtis post fake pictures of Israel that were actually of Gaza.

This has been a huge mess optics wise for Israel to those of us under 35 who don’t rely on cable news and use social media for news.

So you don’t believe Hamas killed 1,400 people?

I do and you know that? That is horrific enough for my senses. I didn’t need Ben Shapiro to post a disturbing AI image of a fake burned baby. Things like this is what made Gen Z /college generation question Israel. It shouldn’t have been this way. I believe Bibi and crew are such a hamfisted circular firing squad of screw ups that I’m not surprised Hamas has now “won” Gen Z.

It gets really bad if you’re on Tiktok and X. Israeli Tiktokers mocking Palestinians are going viral every second and so is a clip this morning of a man on Israeli television saying hostages should stop being interviewed in Israeli media because it’s good optics for Hamas.

An idiocy by Ben Shapiro made you “question Israel” but Hamas lying about bombing its own hospital made you gung ho about Hamas? It’s truly nobody’s fault but your own if you’re in your mid-30s and getting your foreign policy news from Tik Tok.

People can be anti-Israel AND anti-Hamas. Perhaps it boggles your mind that two thoughts can simultaneously exist in the same brain, but for most people it is possible.

Anti-Israel?

Israel is a terrorist state. Hamas is a terrorist group.

Both are trying to prove they can terrorize civilians more than the other. Israel is coming out ahead at the moment.

I don’t support terrorists. Period. (Even if they happen to be Jewish)

False.

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Anonymous wrote:From Fox News today: “A co-ed Israeli combat squad eliminated nearly 100 Hamas terrorists while protecting towns along Israel’s borders, and the unit’s female commander says their heroic actions leave "no more doubts about female combat soldiers," according to a report.”

Important not to overlook this heroism in the face of a sadistic surprise attack.

Yes, women can kill people, too! I feel so empowered.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Stanford pro-Palestine advocates have come forth with their list of demands...

Why wait for a ceasefire? Let's send them to Gaza now!

If anyone starts a GoFundMe -- lmk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

And there you have it.

This is not about being pro-Palestinian rights and freedom. This is not about grief for the suffering of Palestinian civilians.

They don't want pro-Israel protester to exist.

I dare anyone to find a group of students at a mainstream American college who support Israel saying they don't want the Palestinians to exist, and they don't want the pot-Palestinian protesters to exist.

Shut it! Israel in its current form should not exist! There you have it! It is not antisemitism, it is not anti jewish. The state of Israel in its current form is a cancer! The world and jews would have been better off if Israel never existed. The creation of a Jewish state in the middle of the Arab world not only represents the continuation of European colonialism in Palestine, it has also consisted of the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians and the establishment of an apartheid system by a rogue nation that has repeatedly violated international law.

Given this history, the repeated claim made by the United States and other Western nations that Israel’s military actions are merely acts of self-defense contradicts the reality on the ground. Surely it is the violence carried out by people forced to live under a violent illegal military occupation and blockade that should be considered an act of self-defense. After all, the French Resistance to the Nazi occupation of France during World War Two is viewed as a heroic struggle for national liberation. In stark contrast, Palestinian resisters are labelled ‘terrorists.’
Despite the best efforts of the United States and other Western governments as well as the mainstream media to portray Israel as the victim in this conflict, the numbers make evident who is doing most of the killing and who is doing most of the dying. The fact that a people forced to live under an illegal foreign military occupation are portrayed as the aggressors constitutes a stunning example of Orwellian doublespeak.

+100

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Anonymous wrote:DeSantis bans SJP groups on Florida campuses.

Is this legal or unconstitutional?

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/floridas-desantis-bans-pro-palestinian-student-group-2023-10-25/

If they support terrorism, not sure it is unconstitutional.

Who funds this group?

Unclear. Some enterprising young investigative journalist should do a deep dive.....

From 2015: https://www.ngo-monitor.org/reports/bds_on_american_campuses_sjp_and_its_ngo_network/

While the majority of visible funding for SJP activities comes from student governments, SJP chapters do receive funding from groups such as American Muslims for Palestine (AMP) and WESPAC. However, due to a fundamental lack of transparency on the part of SJP and its donors, only a fraction of SJP’s funding is known and publicly accessible. It is highly difficult to ascertain how much funding SJP receives from sources outside universities.

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Anonymous wrote:5. Because it went so well for the Jews for hundreds of years before the modern state of Israel existed.

actually it did for the Mizrahi Jews.

Bwaaaaaa!

You mean the 1929 Hebron massacre? Or the Safed massacre?

You mean the Iraqi Jews who were killed in the Farhud?

Or how fatherless Jewish children in Yemen were forced to convert to Islam, even if their mothers were alive?

Or the 1933 anti-Jewish riots in Aden where Jews were stoned to death?

You know NOTHING. Just because you can type the word Mizrahi doesn't mean you know jack.

All post Zionism.

I have done the research. Do you know Brits, Arabs, and Zionists were in cahoots to kick out Mizrahis to Israel in order for Arabs to have Arab states and Israelis to have Israel?

Every Jewish pogrom in the Middle East was post Ottoman Empire control. The Ottoman Empire which reigned for 500 years was very kind to Jews and Arabs but that didn’t stop both from “rebelling” in favor of the British in Mandatory Palestine in order to get nationhood /independence

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Anonymous wrote:Where should all the Israelis go? I mean did anyone ask that question about Palestinians in 1948? Just saying.

So you think all the Jews in Israel should go where? Come on now, have the courage of your convictions.

Who cares where they go? They displaced many families with their "settlers."

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Anonymous wrote:5. Because it went so well for the Jews for hundreds of years before the modern state of Israel existed.

actually it did for the Mizrahi Jews.

Bwaaaaaa!

You mean the 1929 Hebron massacre? Or the Safed massacre?

You mean the Iraqi Jews who were killed in the Farhud?

Or how fatherless Jewish children in Yemen were forced to convert to Islam, even if their mothers were alive?

Or the 1933 anti-Jewish riots in Aden where Jews were stoned to death?

You know NOTHING. Just because you can type the word Mizrahi doesn't mean you know jack.

All post Zionism.

I have done the research. Do you know Brits, Arabs, and Zionists were in cahoots to kick out Mizrahis to Israel in order for Arabs to have Arab states and Israelis to have Israel?

Every Jewish pogrom in the Middle East was post Ottoman Empire control. The Ottoman Empire which reigned for 500 years was very kind to Jews and Arabs but that didn’t stop both from “rebelling” in favor of the British in Mandatory Palestine in order to get nationhood /independence

What the hell are you blabbering about?

The Romans conquered the kingdom
of Judea. That doesn’t count in your book?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Where should all the Israelis go? I mean did anyone ask that question about Palestinians in 1948? Just saying.

So you think all the Jews in Israel should go where? Come on now, have the courage of your convictions.

Who cares where they go? They displaced many families with their "settlers."

Well at least now you’re being honest.

So you want to displace 7 million Jewish Israelis and you don’t care where they go.

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Anonymous wrote:Where should all the Israelis go? I mean did anyone ask that question about Palestinians in 1948? Just saying.

Oh gee, not that familiar with history are you. Palestinians were offered a state in 1948 and refused it.

In 1948 the UN proposed partitioned Palestine into two independent States, one Palestinian Arab and the other Jewish, with Jerusalem internationalized.

Israel proclaimed its independence and in 1948 was promptly attacked by its neighboring Arab States.

Many Palestinians fled before since they thought the war would be short and they could returns after the Jews had been vanquished. They ere wrong.

Many Palestinians were also expelled.