Reddit ItEndsWithLawsuits has been going nuts on that. Apparently some content creators got notices from google that someone was trying to get their account information. People thought the notices were spam, but google confirmed that they are real emails from their legal department, stating that Esra Hudson of Manatt served the subpoena. But then one of the content creators claimed that someone told someone who called Hudson's office and was told the subpoenas are fake? Apologies if I'm getting it wrong, this is from scrolling around and people there tend to post dramatic headlines. I think by "fake" they mean the subpoenas exist per google's legal department, but someone is impersonating Hudson. I'm inclined to think they are really from Hudson as it would go along with them serving Candace, Perez, etc. It's definitely uncomfortable. |
Well his comments are definitely coming back to bite him. I don't know how much of this is honest concerns about her security vs just creating a victim narrative, but I guess it's fair enough if the other side is talking about streaming your deposition that you'd want it on home turf. He was obviously joking and I don't think he'd really do some of the stuff they are suggesting in the letter but I think that's where the Vin Diesel stuff comes in because you can argue maybe he is just crazy enough to do something . Like, I don't know, have a group of people with signs outside or invite content creators to wait outside and shout questions at her (although, who cares, I'm sure she has security and I don't believe her physical safety is at risk). |
Honestly I think Lively’s attorneys make an excellent point in this filing that if Freedman can get his client Vin Diesel’s deposition moved to his home turf, due to his security concerns, than Lively should be able to do this as well. There is no need for a circus. I’d be surprised if Liman did not grant this, and if he doesn’t grant this I expect he will impose conditions re security and related issues on Freedman’s firm. |
I think you can probably seek damages from Baldoni at this point. I have mourned for you, quietly from the sidelines, for nigh over 7 months now, since you are an important DV advocate and clearly conversant in the harms caused by manipulative fake people like Baldoni. Do you have the ducats to file, or will it have to be pro hac vice? 🙏 |
If Freedman wants to set depo location for media show, does Lively’s team lose any strength to that argument if argue Ryan was using case for $ by including it in Deadpool, jokes on SNL, etc. Or is that something court wouldn’t even entertain to hear and would just tell the “kids” to stop bickering and work it out? |
Well, this totally sounds like exactly the sort of petty and juvenile argument that Freedman would put in one of his letter briefs, and if he wants to do that, he’ll need to write that up by 5 pm Sunday, as Liman sent out an order this morning requiring an expedited response from Freedman and signaling he’d be ruling on the issue on Monday. (Gottlieb had requested this expedited response.) |
That's different. That would be Reynolds bringing the case into his "art" and this would be bringing drama into the case. The judge only has control over the case. I could only see the judge getting involved if they did like an SNL skit using materials they got from discovery that they could have only gotten through the case. As of right now there is no gag order so the parties are free to do interviews, make jokes, post on social media regarding the case as long as they do not leak information covered by the protective order. Anyway Liman posted an order taking Gottlieb's request under advisement and asking for a response by July 13 (which is weird because it's a Sunday). So I guess he is going to end up granting Lively’s request depending how Wayfarer reaponds. |
DP to who you are responding to, but this response to someone who actually works in DV law is also petty and juvenile and completely non-substantive, so I guess I begin to understand why you like Freedman so much lol. |
Is this the right general impression of where this all started and has now moved to: seemed a majority with Lively when this all started, but then started swinging more toward Baldoni, based on what was coming out about the persons Lively and Baldoni, but now is moving back to Lively but not bc of who Lively is but bc of who Freedman is? |
I don't like Freedman, but I'm not *the* vocal anti-Freedman poster, and it's difficult to discuss Wayfarer's strategy without discussing Freedman, IMO. I imagine he is difficult to defend if you are a Baldoni supporter. NAG posted a video today pointing out that Wayfarer should have at least tried to dismiss Lively's defamation claims, because the existence of those claims opens up a lot of discovery on content creators and different media strategies employed by Freedman, his law firm, and Wayfarer, especially because she claims it's ongoing. I hadn't thought about that but it's a great point. Lively is a public figure and Freedman accusing her of lying is probably either an opinion or lacks actual malice because he believes his clients. If one considers Liman a fair judge, those claims could have gotten dismissed going by the logic he used to dismiss Sloane and Reynolds. Lively's defamation claim is arguably even weaker than Lively's SH claim and I generally forget it even exists.
I've always thought Lively was strong on the law and Baldoni on the facts. His complaint listed a lot of strong factual basis for his defense but basically they were not actionable legal claims (extortion, false light, shaky defamation claims, contract claims without the contracts attached to support). So at this stage of the litigation it's understandable Lively is winning but when it gets into Motions for Summary Judgment and the trial, it will become more about the facts, and then it will feel like Baldoni is winning and his supporters will probably be more vocal here, that's my guess. |
I am the poster right before yours- thanks for this post. Helpful for me as looked away for 1000 posts so just catching up again. |
Lol. Does this poster not think we can all recognize her at this point? |
Dp No, it’s just one or maybe two pro lively posters, who are probably paid to seem organic, who post over and over and claim to be different people 95 percent of people are anti Blake |
^ and one of them is a woman who has been identified off here but I won’t dox anyone. She spends time on Reddit too. She is obsessed with freedman. No one else cares much about lawyers but she drools over him. |
She has ruined this thread. |