Blake Lively- Jason Baldoni and NYT - False Light claims

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Anonymous wrote:Liman denied sanctions and a protective order for a content creator

https://www.reddit.com/r/ItEndsWithLawsuits/comments/1mbraqj/lauren_about_to_go_live_judge_has_denied/

Of course.

He said no standing which probably correct once the subpoena withdrawn. Still frustrating.

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Anonymous wrote:Liman denied sanctions and a protective order for a content creator

https://www.reddit.com/r/ItEndsWithLawsuits/comments/1mbraqj/lauren_about_to_go_live_judge_has_denied/

Of course.

He said no standing which probably correct once the subpoena withdrawn. Still frustrating.

Agreed. That's most likely why her team quickly withdrew them so he wouldn't have the chance to rule on them. He was right to give the cc a deadline to get the MTQ in

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Anonymous wrote:Liman denied sanctions and a protective order for a content creator

https://www.reddit.com/r/ItEndsWithLawsuits/comments/1mbraqj/lauren_about_to_go_live_judge_has_denied/

Of course.

maybe I am seeing why this is so frustrating for people and why they're disappointed. The cc will have to take it up with google.

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The judge denied Perez Hilton motion to seal. Its a legitimate reason (he's directly subpoenaed and can deem confidential under PO when he submits discovery). It highlights what an awful, vulnerable position the small creators are in. They are all on a shared subpoena to Google so have no standing to quash in full (Livelys withdrawal says "at this time" so still reserving the right to ask again) and no ability to designate anything confidential or AEO because it would be Google turning it over.

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Anonymous wrote:Is she going to do this 37 more times?
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304.497.0.pdf

Truly an unhinged move on her part

I'm not defending the legal strategy behind these subpoenas (I question it also), but calling this "unhinged" as though your guy hasn't done much, much worse is certainly a take. You guys are still loathe to discuss Baldoni's entire legal complaint getting completely dismissed (and commonly attribute this to judicial bias lol!), much less Freedman's fake punching of his opposing counsel. You might want to consider some of these things in proportion to one another because you're going to be in a for a shock the next time Freedman promises to do something he never does or Fritz signs a sworn declaration attesting to what the legal standard is.

This is a really strange way of looking at this case. It was Blake who started this mess. She went to the New York Times with the story and filed this insane lawsuit. It’s pretty clear that Justin hired a communications crisis firm to help him with the communications crisis Blake created. It was absolute insanity to ever accuse him of a smear campaign.

Hollywood PR is dirty and gross and no one should know that more than Blake, who has used every dirty trick in the book to claw her way into a career. Justin was just playing the game because she set it up and no one would blame him for that. We all know this. What Blake is doing is truly embarrassing. It has cost her her hair company, her friendship with Taylor, which was probably her single greatest asset in celebrity world, and millions of followers and fans.

But yes, let’s talk about how crazy Justin‘s lawyer is lol.

"It was absolute insanity to ever accuse him of a smear campaign" when Baldoni actually hired and paid THREE different PR firms PLUS a specialist in TX to design and execute a "most importantly, untraceable" campaign after Baldoni specifically signed an agreement promising Lively he would not retaliate against her for raising the harassment issues she did. After the people who designed that campaign bragged that "you know we can bury anyone." After the people who designed the campaign told one another that they were pretty sure Lively was sincere about her harassment complaints and really believed he did those things to her, but also noted the campaign was being really successful because "it just shows how people really want to hate on women."

This is a really strange way of looking at this case. It was Baldoni who started this mess by harassing Lively in the first place. He ultimately doubled down by filing a $400M defamation claim against the woman who accused him of harassment -- and it's exactly this kind of defamation claim launched in response to accusations of harassment that is commonly being recognized as just another retaliatory tactic itself, and especially so here where none of the claims in Baldoni's complaint even survived the motion to dismiss stage. This is extraordinary -- you don't seem to have any clue how completely nuts it is that not a single one of his dumb claims against hers survived when Freedman bragged about how he was going to ruin Lively for weeks and when he claimed the lawsuit was worth $400M. *poof*

But oh no, some subpoenas trying to get financial info about the smear are withdrawn. THE HORROR.

Give me a break. If your husband or brother or whoever was the victim of Ryan Reynolds walking around Hollywood calling you a sexual predator and running to the New York Times to get the me too writer to write an article on it giving you just a couple of hours to respond you would hire a firm to do everything they could as well. Like I said, it’s a sleazy game, but nothing that they did was illegal. There was no smear campaign.

She started this when she used sexual harassment claims to steal the movie from Justin. She was the one who harassed him, along with her husband. You can argue until you’re blue in the face, but the public is clearly on his side at this point.

Both Ryan and Blake made anal jokes to Justin, genuinely think they were the ones who were sexually harassing him. Can you imagine if Justin did the reverse?

Meant to say *Can you imagine if it were the reverse and Justin did that?

Sure can’t!!!

[Anonymous]

Daily Mail is reporting than Lively’s deposit has been delayed again, likely because there still is no Amemded Comlaint with respect to Wallace.

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Anonymous wrote:Daily Mail is reporting than Lively’s deposit has been delayed again, likely because there still is no Amemded Comlaint with respect to Wallace.

Deposition, not deposit.

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Anonymous wrote:Daily Mail is reporting than Lively’s deposit has been delayed again, likely because there still is no Amemded Comlaint with respect to Wallace.

Hmm, and whose responsibility is it to amend the complaint?

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Anonymous wrote:Is she going to do this 37 more times?
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304.497.0.pdf

Truly an unhinged move on her part

I'm not defending the legal strategy behind these subpoenas (I question it also), but calling this "unhinged" as though your guy hasn't done much, much worse is certainly a take. You guys are still loathe to discuss Baldoni's entire legal complaint getting completely dismissed (and commonly attribute this to judicial bias lol!), much less Freedman's fake punching of his opposing counsel. You might want to consider some of these things in proportion to one another because you're going to be in a for a shock the next time Freedman promises to do something he never does or Fritz signs a sworn declaration attesting to what the legal standard is.

This is a really strange way of looking at this case. It was Blake who started this mess. She went to the New York Times with the story and filed this insane lawsuit. It’s pretty clear that Justin hired a communications crisis firm to help him with the communications crisis Blake created. It was absolute insanity to ever accuse him of a smear campaign.

Hollywood PR is dirty and gross and no one should know that more than Blake, who has used every dirty trick in the book to claw her way into a career. Justin was just playing the game because she set it up and no one would blame him for that. We all know this. What Blake is doing is truly embarrassing. It has cost her her hair company, her friendship with Taylor, which was probably her single greatest asset in celebrity world, and millions of followers and fans.

But yes, let’s talk about how crazy Justin‘s lawyer is lol.

Honestly, better to not engage. Unless you enjoy arguing with a brick wall.

DP this is a great way of putting it. BL supporters always scream that we don't engage with them both on DCUM and the IEWU subreddit (even though many of us did at the beginning), and it's just useless because they will not change their minds on anything, so what's the use? Blake's word is law, and there's absolutely no evidence that can change that, and every act of defense on Justin's behalf is actually an example of DARVO, so what is there to argue with?

Like, I'm firmly pro-Justin, but if at trial, they show the birthing video, and it's as Blake has claimed, I would completely change my mind about him. The reverse will not happen with Blake defenders. It could be completely different than what Blake claimed, but as long as Blake claims she felt uncomfortable, that is enough in their eyes for it to have constituted sexual harassment.

What exactly do you think the birth video is going to show? Even her claims are not that bad. She was not assaulted. She was not berated. She was not forced to do anything.

At worse, they had a different vision for the scene, and they wanted to push boundaries that she did not want to do. Unfortunately, she had not turned in her nudity rider, despite them begging for it, which would’ve put down parameters and probably avoided the conversation altogether.

She ultimately got her way, because she had way more power on the set. There was just no sexual harassment happening. I’m sure Justin has an annoying way about him and he doesn’t seem like the most socially aware guy, but that is far from sexual harassment.

Seriously! These women! Honestly, she’s looking at it all wrong. Just enjoy this mild bit of sexual harassment, as a treat.

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Anonymous wrote:Is she going to do this 37 more times?
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304.497.0.pdf

Truly an unhinged move on her part

I'm not defending the legal strategy behind these subpoenas (I question it also), but calling this "unhinged" as though your guy hasn't done much, much worse is certainly a take. You guys are still loathe to discuss Baldoni's entire legal complaint getting completely dismissed (and commonly attribute this to judicial bias lol!), much less Freedman's fake punching of his opposing counsel. You might want to consider some of these things in proportion to one another because you're going to be in a for a shock the next time Freedman promises to do something he never does or Fritz signs a sworn declaration attesting to what the legal standard is.

This is a really strange way of looking at this case. It was Blake who started this mess. She went to the New York Times with the story and filed this insane lawsuit. It’s pretty clear that Justin hired a communications crisis firm to help him with the communications crisis Blake created. It was absolute insanity to ever accuse him of a smear campaign.

Hollywood PR is dirty and gross and no one should know that more than Blake, who has used every dirty trick in the book to claw her way into a career. Justin was just playing the game because she set it up and no one would blame him for that. We all know this. What Blake is doing is truly embarrassing. It has cost her her hair company, her friendship with Taylor, which was probably her single greatest asset in celebrity world, and millions of followers and fans.

But yes, let’s talk about how crazy Justin‘s lawyer is lol.

Honestly, better to not engage. Unless you enjoy arguing with a brick wall.

DP this is a great way of putting it. BL supporters always scream that we don't engage with them both on DCUM and the IEWU subreddit (even though many of us did at the beginning), and it's just useless because they will not change their minds on anything, so what's the use? Blake's word is law, and there's absolutely no evidence that can change that, and every act of defense on Justin's behalf is actually an example of DARVO, so what is there to argue with?

Like, I'm firmly pro-Justin, but if at trial, they show the birthing video, and it's as Blake has claimed, I would completely change my mind about him. The reverse will not happen with Blake defenders. It could be completely different than what Blake claimed, but as long as Blake claims she felt uncomfortable, that is enough in their eyes for it to have constituted sexual harassment.

What exactly do you think the birth video is going to show? Even her claims are not that bad. She was not assaulted. She was not berated. She was not forced to do anything.

At worse, they had a different vision for the scene, and they wanted to push boundaries that she did not want to do. Unfortunately, she had not turned in her nudity rider, despite them begging for it, which would’ve put down parameters and probably avoided the conversation altogether.

She ultimately got her way, because she had way more power on the set. There was just no sexual harassment happening. I’m sure Justin has an annoying way about him and he doesn’t seem like the most socially aware guy, but that is far from sexual harassment.

Seriously! These women! Honestly, she’s looking at it all wrong. Just enjoy this mild bit of sexual harassment, as a treat.

And Justin should just happily accept being called a sexual predator by one of the most powerful men in Hollywood am I right? No such thing as bad publicity!!!

Look, Blake REEEALLLLY wanted to try her hand at directing. what is throwing the life away of one man if she can get that chance? She deserves it! She’s supposed to be satisfied with fronting crappy hair products and alcohol lines? She is a creative genius!!!!! She needs this! Scarlett is directing damn it! Why not her!

And since she has no talent might as well play the sexual harassment card am I right?

[Anonymous]

Popcorn Planet guy just filed something against Blake in Florida.

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Anonymous wrote:Is she going to do this 37 more times?
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304.497.0.pdf

Truly an unhinged move on her part

I'm not defending the legal strategy behind these subpoenas (I question it also), but calling this "unhinged" as though your guy hasn't done much, much worse is certainly a take. You guys are still loathe to discuss Baldoni's entire legal complaint getting completely dismissed (and commonly attribute this to judicial bias lol!), much less Freedman's fake punching of his opposing counsel. You might want to consider some of these things in proportion to one another because you're going to be in a for a shock the next time Freedman promises to do something he never does or Fritz signs a sworn declaration attesting to what the legal standard is.

This is a really strange way of looking at this case. It was Blake who started this mess. She went to the New York Times with the story and filed this insane lawsuit. It’s pretty clear that Justin hired a communications crisis firm to help him with the communications crisis Blake created. It was absolute insanity to ever accuse him of a smear campaign.

Hollywood PR is dirty and gross and no one should know that more than Blake, who has used every dirty trick in the book to claw her way into a career. Justin was just playing the game because she set it up and no one would blame him for that. We all know this. What Blake is doing is truly embarrassing. It has cost her her hair company, her friendship with Taylor, which was probably her single greatest asset in celebrity world, and millions of followers and fans.

But yes, let’s talk about how crazy Justin‘s lawyer is lol.

Honestly, better to not engage. Unless you enjoy arguing with a brick wall.

DP this is a great way of putting it. BL supporters always scream that we don't engage with them both on DCUM and the IEWU subreddit (even though many of us did at the beginning), and it's just useless because they will not change their minds on anything, so what's the use? Blake's word is law, and there's absolutely no evidence that can change that, and every act of defense on Justin's behalf is actually an example of DARVO, so what is there to argue with?

Like, I'm firmly pro-Justin, but if at trial, they show the birthing video, and it's as Blake has claimed, I would completely change my mind about him. The reverse will not happen with Blake defenders. It could be completely different than what Blake claimed, but as long as Blake claims she felt uncomfortable, that is enough in their eyes for it to have constituted sexual harassment.

What exactly do you think the birth video is going to show? Even her claims are not that bad. She was not assaulted. She was not berated. She was not forced to do anything.

At worse, they had a different vision for the scene, and they wanted to push boundaries that she did not want to do. Unfortunately, she had not turned in her nudity rider, despite them begging for it, which would’ve put down parameters and probably avoided the conversation altogether.

She ultimately got her way, because she had way more power on the set. There was just no sexual harassment happening. I’m sure Justin has an annoying way about him and he doesn’t seem like the most socially aware guy, but that is far from sexual harassment.

I don't think you understood the point of my post. I do not think the birth video will show anything. The point I was trying to make it is I can actually point to something tangible showing I am capable of changing my mind. In contrast, there is literally no hypothetical under which Blake supporters would change their minds. You could show them any evidence, and they would not change their minds, barring something very, very extreme, like Blake literally saying "I lied about this whole thing," and even then, there would still be some who say she's just saying that because she couldn't handle the pressure of the lawsuit anymore.

Some irony here in you trying to paint JB supporters as reasonable (and perhaps you are) because you are open to changed facts... and this JB supporter couldn't even deal with a hypothetical change of facts without being like NO THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE. You may very well be the outlier, but most JB supporters here are just as entrenched as BL supporters.

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Anonymous wrote:Popcorn Planet guy just filed something against Blake in Florida.

Bumping

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Popcorn Planet guy just filed something against Blake in Florida.

Interested to know if Lively will try to get it moved to Liman.

There are a few new motions on the NY docket. Many many letters and motions calling out the tactics. I know they will fall on deaf ears, but still good for them.

It seems to take a few days for the non-parties' stuff to be posted, so they are still posting responses to Hudson's letter that were apparently written prior to Liman's ruling. He rules quickly for Lively or against CC and when CCs make well-reasoned motions he sits on them until Lively has a chance to respond, then gives Lively what she wants before the CCs can answer.

I had previously posted it seemed unfair that he was giving the pro se CCs just two business days to respond to Lively's oppositions, but since Lively withdrew them, the CCs ended up getting less than one business day to respond (Hudson's letter posted Saturday July 26 and Liman ruled first thing Monday mooting them. So efficient!). Now the CCs are pointing out they also asked for a PO ruling that Lively cannot issue further subpoenas without a court order, since Lively's withdrawal is open ended. Liman should honestly do it for his own sanity so Lively doesn't clog up the docket with dozens more of these.

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Anonymous wrote:Is she going to do this 37 more times?
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304.497.0.pdf

Truly an unhinged move on her part

I'm not defending the legal strategy behind these subpoenas (I question it also), but calling this "unhinged" as though your guy hasn't done much, much worse is certainly a take. You guys are still loathe to discuss Baldoni's entire legal complaint getting completely dismissed (and commonly attribute this to judicial bias lol!), much less Freedman's fake punching of his opposing counsel. You might want to consider some of these things in proportion to one another because you're going to be in a for a shock the next time Freedman promises to do something he never does or Fritz signs a sworn declaration attesting to what the legal standard is.

This is a really strange way of looking at this case. It was Blake who started this mess. She went to the New York Times with the story and filed this insane lawsuit. It’s pretty clear that Justin hired a communications crisis firm to help him with the communications crisis Blake created. It was absolute insanity to ever accuse him of a smear campaign.

Hollywood PR is dirty and gross and no one should know that more than Blake, who has used every dirty trick in the book to claw her way into a career. Justin was just playing the game because she set it up and no one would blame him for that. We all know this. What Blake is doing is truly embarrassing. It has cost her her hair company, her friendship with Taylor, which was probably her single greatest asset in celebrity world, and millions of followers and fans.

But yes, let’s talk about how crazy Justin‘s lawyer is lol.

Honestly, better to not engage. Unless you enjoy arguing with a brick wall.

DP this is a great way of putting it. BL supporters always scream that we don't engage with them both on DCUM and the IEWU subreddit (even though many of us did at the beginning), and it's just useless because they will not change their minds on anything, so what's the use? Blake's word is law, and there's absolutely no evidence that can change that, and every act of defense on Justin's behalf is actually an example of DARVO, so what is there to argue with?

Like, I'm firmly pro-Justin, but if at trial, they show the birthing video, and it's as Blake has claimed, I would completely change my mind about him. The reverse will not happen with Blake defenders. It could be completely different than what Blake claimed, but as long as Blake claims she felt uncomfortable, that is enough in their eyes for it to have constituted sexual harassment.

What exactly do you think the birth video is going to show? Even her claims are not that bad. She was not assaulted. She was not berated. She was not forced to do anything.

At worse, they had a different vision for the scene, and they wanted to push boundaries that she did not want to do. Unfortunately, she had not turned in her nudity rider, despite them begging for it, which would’ve put down parameters and probably avoided the conversation altogether.

She ultimately got her way, because she had way more power on the set. There was just no sexual harassment happening. I’m sure Justin has an annoying way about him and he doesn’t seem like the most socially aware guy, but that is far from sexual harassment.

I don't think you understood the point of my post. I do not think the birth video will show anything. The point I was trying to make it is I can actually point to something tangible showing I am capable of changing my mind. In contrast, there is literally no hypothetical under which Blake supporters would change their minds. You could show them any evidence, and they would not change their minds, barring something very, very extreme, like Blake literally saying "I lied about this whole thing," and even then, there would still be some who say she's just saying that because she couldn't handle the pressure of the lawsuit anymore.

Some irony here in you trying to paint JB supporters as reasonable (and perhaps you are) because you are open to changed facts... and this JB supporter couldn't even deal with a hypothetical change of facts without being like NO THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE. You may very well be the outlier, but most JB supporters here are just as entrenched as BL supporters.

That prior PP was arguing essentially what the standard for MTD is... even if the scenes plays out exactly as Blake claims, those allegations don't give rise to SH in PP's opinion.