Official TJ Admissions Decisions Results for the Class of 2025

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Anonymous wrote:My son completed Algebra 2 as did all his friends.

TJ is turning out to be a fabulous experience as we have already completed week 1. Nothing but positive things to say about the principal, teachers and curriculum!

And the environment already seems much healthier than years past.

What dog whistles! Shameful comments.
My god, do you guys even realize how racist you guys are.
It is funny how so many holier than thou folks are the most prejudiced.

So.... it's not shameful or a dog whistle to mention that the environment seems healthier if it does.

It's a little silly though, speaking as a deeply pro-reform advocate, to make any judgments about the environment during the first couple of weeks of school. Let's take a look and see how things are during APs in a couple of years, or college application season when the new class is seniors before we make any pronouncements. TJ becomes its most problematic at times when the students and parents are overstressing about outcomes.

It is very much a dog whistle to say it is healthier in a week. We all know what you guys are getting at. Mr. Deeply pro-reform. Toxic, robotic, unidimensional. Healthier, spontaneous, holistic. We have heard these words before and understand the racist insinuations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My son completed Algebra 2 as did all his friends.

TJ is turning out to be a fabulous experience as we have already completed week 1. Nothing but positive things to say about the principal, teachers and curriculum!

And the environment already seems much healthier than years past.

What dog whistles! Shameful comments.
My god, do you guys even realize how racist you guys are.
It is funny how so many holier than thou folks are the most prejudiced.

So.... it's not shameful or a dog whistle to mention that the environment seems healthier if it does.

It's a little silly though, speaking as a deeply pro-reform advocate, to make any judgments about the environment during the first couple of weeks of school. Let's take a look and see how things are during APs in a couple of years, or college application season when the new class is seniors before we make any pronouncements. TJ becomes its most problematic at times when the students and parents are overstressing about outcomes.

It is very much a dog whistle to say it is healthier in a week. We all know what you guys are getting at. Mr. Deeply pro-reform. Toxic, robotic, unidimensional. Healthier, spontaneous, holistic. We have heard these words before and understand the racist insinuations.

TJ had these issues LONG before it became majority-Asian.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My son completed Algebra 2 as did all his friends.

TJ is turning out to be a fabulous experience as we have already completed week 1. Nothing but positive things to say about the principal, teachers and curriculum!

And the environment already seems much healthier than years past.

What dog whistles! Shameful comments.
My god, do you guys even realize how racist you guys are.
It is funny how so many holier than thou folks are the most prejudiced.

So.... it's not shameful or a dog whistle to mention that the environment seems healthier if it does.

It's a little silly though, speaking as a deeply pro-reform advocate, to make any judgments about the environment during the first couple of weeks of school. Let's take a look and see how things are during APs in a couple of years, or college application season when the new class is seniors before we make any pronouncements. TJ becomes its most problematic at times when the students and parents are overstressing about outcomes.

It is very much a dog whistle to say it is healthier in a week. We all know what you guys are getting at. Mr. Deeply pro-reform. Toxic, robotic, unidimensional. Healthier, spontaneous, holistic. We have heard these words before and understand the racist insinuations.

It is exactly the same as saying Melania as a first lady looks so classy. The white house seems so much more healthier in just the first week after she came in. We know what that means too? Racism runs many ways. Doesn't make it right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My son completed Algebra 2 as did all his friends.

TJ is turning out to be a fabulous experience as we have already completed week 1. Nothing but positive things to say about the principal, teachers and curriculum!

And the environment already seems much healthier than years past.

What dog whistles! Shameful comments.
My god, do you guys even realize how racist you guys are.
It is funny how so many holier than thou folks are the most prejudiced.

So.... it's not shameful or a dog whistle to mention that the environment seems healthier if it does.

It's a little silly though, speaking as a deeply pro-reform advocate, to make any judgments about the environment during the first couple of weeks of school. Let's take a look and see how things are during APs in a couple of years, or college application season when the new class is seniors before we make any pronouncements. TJ becomes its most problematic at times when the students and parents are overstressing about outcomes.

It is very much a dog whistle to say it is healthier in a week. We all know what you guys are getting at. Mr. Deeply pro-reform. Toxic, robotic, unidimensional. Healthier, spontaneous, holistic. We have heard these words before and understand the racist insinuations.

TJ had these issues LONG before it became majority-Asian.

When I read this, I figured the reforms put less emphasis on the prep arms war. Never occurred to me that some view it this way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My son completed Algebra 2 as did all his friends.

TJ is turning out to be a fabulous experience as we have already completed week 1. Nothing but positive things to say about the principal, teachers and curriculum!

And the environment already seems much healthier than years past.

What dog whistles! Shameful comments.
My god, do you guys even realize how racist you guys are.
It is funny how so many holier than thou folks are the most prejudiced.

So.... it's not shameful or a dog whistle to mention that the environment seems healthier if it does.

It's a little silly though, speaking as a deeply pro-reform advocate, to make any judgments about the environment during the first couple of weeks of school. Let's take a look and see how things are during APs in a couple of years, or college application season when the new class is seniors before we make any pronouncements. TJ becomes its most problematic at times when the students and parents are overstressing about outcomes.

It is very much a dog whistle to say it is healthier in a week. We all know what you guys are getting at. Mr. Deeply pro-reform. Toxic, robotic, unidimensional. Healthier, spontaneous, holistic. We have heard these words before and understand the racist insinuations.

TJ had these issues LONG before it became majority-Asian.

When I read this, I figured the reforms put less emphasis on the prep arms war. Never occurred to me that some view it this way.

The road to good intentions! TJ officials publicly stated that the intent was to change race composition. Prep wars is just a red herring. If this whole thing was to solve for the over prep issue, solutions would be very different.

[Anonymous]

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When I read this, I figured the reforms put less emphasis on the prep arms war. Never occurred to me that some view it this way.

The prep arms war is in and of itself a racist dog whistle. There have been numerous threads where parents have complained that their AAP center sorts the AAP kids by math level, and their kids "deserve" to be in the top class, but aren't due to Asians taking AoPS and RSM classes and thus being ahead. They wanted the schools to either stop teaching advanced material to the kids who already mastered the grade level content, or they wanted some way to prevent Asians from doing outside enrichment classes. After reading enough of these threads on dcum, it's clear that the issue isn't leveling the playing field for underprivileged kids. It's all about letting affluent white kids play lots of video games, do travel sports, and hang out with friends rather than doing STEM extracurriculars or enrichment, but still look competitive for TJ since the extra effort no longer counts for anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
When I read this, I figured the reforms put less emphasis on the prep arms war. Never occurred to me that some view it this way.

The prep arms war is in and of itself a racist dog whistle. There have been numerous threads where parents have complained that their AAP center sorts the AAP kids by math level, and their kids "deserve" to be in the top class, but aren't due to Asians taking AoPS and RSM classes and thus being ahead. They wanted the schools to either stop teaching advanced material to the kids who already mastered the grade level content, or they wanted some way to prevent Asians from doing outside enrichment classes. After reading enough of these threads on dcum, it's clear that the issue isn't leveling the playing field for underprivileged kids. It's all about letting affluent white kids play lots of video games, do travel sports, and hang out with friends rather than doing STEM extracurriculars or enrichment, but still look competitive for TJ since the extra effort no longer counts for anything.

In other words, "be kids".

[Anonymous]

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In other words, "be kids".

Clearly, the kids taking an AoPS class or competing in Mathcounts aren't "being kids." The only way to "be a kid" is to do nothing whatsoever academic outside of school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
When I read this, I figured the reforms put less emphasis on the prep arms war. Never occurred to me that some view it this way.

The prep arms war is in and of itself a racist dog whistle. There have been numerous threads where parents have complained that their AAP center sorts the AAP kids by math level, and their kids "deserve" to be in the top class, but aren't due to Asians taking AoPS and RSM classes and thus being ahead. They wanted the schools to either stop teaching advanced material to the kids who already mastered the grade level content, or they wanted some way to prevent Asians from doing outside enrichment classes. After reading enough of these threads on dcum, it's clear that the issue isn't leveling the playing field for underprivileged kids. It's all about letting affluent white kids play lots of video games, do travel sports, and hang out with friends rather than doing STEM extracurriculars or enrichment, but still look competitive for TJ since the extra effort no longer counts for anything.

That's weird because I read the admission changes doubled the number of URMs in this year's class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
When I read this, I figured the reforms put less emphasis on the prep arms war. Never occurred to me that some view it this way.

The prep arms war is in and of itself a racist dog whistle. There have been numerous threads where parents have complained that their AAP center sorts the AAP kids by math level, and their kids "deserve" to be in the top class, but aren't due to Asians taking AoPS and RSM classes and thus being ahead. They wanted the schools to either stop teaching advanced material to the kids who already mastered the grade level content, or they wanted some way to prevent Asians from doing outside enrichment classes. After reading enough of these threads on dcum, it's clear that the issue isn't leveling the playing field for underprivileged kids. It's all about letting affluent white kids play lots of video games, do travel sports, and hang out with friends rather than doing STEM extracurriculars or enrichment, but still look competitive for TJ since the extra effort no longer counts for anything.

That's weird because I read the admission changes doubled the number of URMs in this year's class.

Doubled? More like a 10X increase. This is what was sought and what the new process achieved. I can't believe there are people that think this is all being done to get a few extra white kids into TJ.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
When I read this, I figured the reforms put less emphasis on the prep arms war. Never occurred to me that some view it this way.

The prep arms war is in and of itself a racist dog whistle. There have been numerous threads where parents have complained that their AAP center sorts the AAP kids by math level, and their kids "deserve" to be in the top class, but aren't due to Asians taking AoPS and RSM classes and thus being ahead. They wanted the schools to either stop teaching advanced material to the kids who already mastered the grade level content, or they wanted some way to prevent Asians from doing outside enrichment classes. After reading enough of these threads on dcum, it's clear that the issue isn't leveling the playing field for underprivileged kids. It's all about letting affluent white kids play lots of video games, do travel sports, and hang out with friends rather than doing STEM extracurriculars or enrichment, but still look competitive for TJ since the extra effort no longer counts for anything.

That's weird because I read the admission changes doubled the number of URMs in this year's class.

Doubled? More like a 10X increase. This is what was sought and what the new process achieved. I can't believe there are people that think this is all being done to get a few extra white kids into TJ.

Well the white folks didn't object to the dilution because they knew it wouldn't impact them negatively in terms of white kids getting in. However the long term negative impact to school will remain. Hey. Who thinks long term these days..just get the troops out of Afghanistan. 70% support it. Tyranny of the majority is what it is...so be it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
When I read this, I figured the reforms put less emphasis on the prep arms war. Never occurred to me that some view it this way.

The prep arms war is in and of itself a racist dog whistle. There have been numerous threads where parents have complained that their AAP center sorts the AAP kids by math level, and their kids "deserve" to be in the top class, but aren't due to Asians taking AoPS and RSM classes and thus being ahead. They wanted the schools to either stop teaching advanced material to the kids who already mastered the grade level content, or they wanted some way to prevent Asians from doing outside enrichment classes. After reading enough of these threads on dcum, it's clear that the issue isn't leveling the playing field for underprivileged kids. It's all about letting affluent white kids play lots of video games, do travel sports, and hang out with friends rather than doing STEM extracurriculars or enrichment, but still look competitive for TJ since the extra effort no longer counts for anything.

That's weird because I read the admission changes doubled the number of URMs in this year's class.

Doubled? More like a 10X increase. This is what was sought and what the new process achieved. I can't believe there are people that think this is all being done to get a few extra white kids into TJ.

Well the white folks didn't object to the dilution because they knew it wouldn't impact them negatively in terms of white kids getting in. However the long term negative impact to school will remain. Hey. Who thinks long term these days..just get the troops out of Afghanistan. 70% support it. Tyranny of the majority is what it is...so be it.

The white folks didn't object to the dilution because on balance they don't care about TJ to nearly the extent that Asian families do. That reality bears out in the application numbers.

It will be interesting to see over the next several years whether the proportion of applicants from the various demographics changes in response to whatever is heard on the ground at TJ.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
When I read this, I figured the reforms put less emphasis on the prep arms war. Never occurred to me that some view it this way.

The prep arms war is in and of itself a racist dog whistle. There have been numerous threads where parents have complained that their AAP center sorts the AAP kids by math level, and their kids "deserve" to be in the top class, but aren't due to Asians taking AoPS and RSM classes and thus being ahead. They wanted the schools to either stop teaching advanced material to the kids who already mastered the grade level content, or they wanted some way to prevent Asians from doing outside enrichment classes. After reading enough of these threads on dcum, it's clear that the issue isn't leveling the playing field for underprivileged kids. It's all about letting affluent white kids play lots of video games, do travel sports, and hang out with friends rather than doing STEM extracurriculars or enrichment, but still look competitive for TJ since the extra effort no longer counts for anything.

That's weird because I read the admission changes doubled the number of URMs in this year's class.

Doubled? More like a 10X increase. This is what was sought and what the new process achieved. I can't believe there are people that think this is all being done to get a few extra white kids into TJ.

Well the white folks didn't object to the dilution because they knew it wouldn't impact them negatively in terms of white kids getting in. However the long term negative impact to school will remain. Hey. Who thinks long term these days..just get the troops out of Afghanistan. 70% support it. Tyranny of the majority is what it is...so be it.

The majority of people don't give a crap about TJ. It's a really select group of parents and families with bright children that care. I believe a majority would shut TJ down if it was offered up as a choice to the voters.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel bad for this year’s kids, who worked hard and got screwed over. But, this will self correct quickly. Whether officially or unofficially. I know three families in our Western County neighborhood that rented a 1 Br. Apartment in the Herndon MS district for next year and changed the mom and kids residency on paper. Kids will sleep in their own beds and someone will check the mail a couple of times a week. At least one also plans to self id as “mixed race” (mixture of two different subsets of Indians, which cracks me up). And in another case, the kid’s case even found an MD who gave him a neuropsych diagnosis because his parents wrote a check. The parents requested and got an iEP this spring. The parent figure this will help with standardized testing down the line.

And instead of an Indian kid from Carson who stands no chance, suddenly they have a mixed race kid with an IEP from Herndon.

I’ve even heard speculation from parents with SAHMs about parents officially separating for a few months so the kid can qualify as FARMs.

None of their rising 8th graders have been in the Carson building this year anyway so they don’t care that much about switching schools. And, the parents believe that it’s an easy path to TJ. It looks like they are right. They’ll take turns carpooling and do a lot of supplementing, AOPS, etc. at home. And, they have already signed up for one of those Asian style after school schools. They think think it’s a much easier path to TJ than staying at Carson. It’s smart. And since the system is going out of its way to screw over AAPIs who sacrificed to buy into good school Districts, more power to them.

One of these three sets of parents mentioned that a group at their mosque is doing basically the same thing, except in their case it’s RRMS with a temporary transfer to South County.

One thing all these parents have in common? They are donating and organizing for Glen Younkin. I think VA may really flip red this year.

This kind of behavior is why the admission process was changed.

Or, perhaps, why it shouldn't have been changed the way it was.

Again, this is remarkable. TJ admissions is trying to create geographic diversity, and these parents think that the admissions committee isn't going to notice that the kid went to Rocky Run in 7th grade and South County in 8th grade when those are the two sets of transcripts that were used. To me, this is one of the easiest ways to ensure that you DON'T get admitted. It's a giant red flag screaming "we're trying to game the admissions process!!!"

+1000. There are going to be a LOT of disappointed families that have jumped through hoops only to find out that they did it for nothing and screwed their kids in the process. There will still be plenty of Indian kids from Carson and Rocky Run that get in - it'll just be significantly fewer than it was before. The idea that you're somehow better off completely uprooting your kids from a school that's likely to have 40-50 admits to try to nail down a spot at a school that will have 6-8 (and where, believe it or not, there already exist some strong students) is just insane.

This already happened the previous year. Any evidence that the admissions process rejected these people who moved? Aren't there lots of moves every year within Fairfax?
Also, Academy of Loudoun admissions set a maximum cap of 5 students per school. Do you still think it is insane if Carson had a max of 20 admits only and every school has at least 10?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel bad for this year’s kids, who worked hard and got screwed over. But, this will self correct quickly. Whether officially or unofficially. I know three families in our Western County neighborhood that rented a 1 Br. Apartment in the Herndon MS district for next year and changed the mom and kids residency on paper. Kids will sleep in their own beds and someone will check the mail a couple of times a week. At least one also plans to self id as “mixed race” (mixture of two different subsets of Indians, which cracks me up). And in another case, the kid’s case even found an MD who gave him a neuropsych diagnosis because his parents wrote a check. The parents requested and got an iEP this spring. The parent figure this will help with standardized testing down the line.

And instead of an Indian kid from Carson who stands no chance, suddenly they have a mixed race kid with an IEP from Herndon.

I’ve even heard speculation from parents with SAHMs about parents officially separating for a few months so the kid can qualify as FARMs.

None of their rising 8th graders have been in the Carson building this year anyway so they don’t care that much about switching schools. And, the parents believe that it’s an easy path to TJ. It looks like they are right. They’ll take turns carpooling and do a lot of supplementing, AOPS, etc. at home. And, they have already signed up for one of those Asian style after school schools. They think think it’s a much easier path to TJ than staying at Carson. It’s smart. And since the system is going out of its way to screw over AAPIs who sacrificed to buy into good school Districts, more power to them.

One of these three sets of parents mentioned that a group at their mosque is doing basically the same thing, except in their case it’s RRMS with a temporary transfer to South County.

One thing all these parents have in common? They are donating and organizing for Glen Younkin. I think VA may really flip red this year.

This kind of behavior is why the admission process was changed.

Or, perhaps, why it shouldn't have been changed the way it was.

Again, this is remarkable. TJ admissions is trying to create geographic diversity, and these parents think that the admissions committee isn't going to notice that the kid went to Rocky Run in 7th grade and South County in 8th grade when those are the two sets of transcripts that were used. To me, this is one of the easiest ways to ensure that you DON'T get admitted. It's a giant red flag screaming "we're trying to game the admissions process!!!"

+1000. There are going to be a LOT of disappointed families that have jumped through hoops only to find out that they did it for nothing and screwed their kids in the process. There will still be plenty of Indian kids from Carson and Rocky Run that get in - it'll just be significantly fewer than it was before. The idea that you're somehow better off completely uprooting your kids from a school that's likely to have 40-50 admits to try to nail down a spot at a school that will have 6-8 (and where, believe it or not, there already exist some strong students) is just insane.

This already happened the previous year. Any evidence that the admissions process rejected these people who moved? Aren't there lots of moves every year within Fairfax?
Also, Academy of Loudoun admissions set a maximum cap of 5 students per school. Do you still think it is insane if Carson had a max of 20 admits only and every school has at least 10?

That won't happen. I don't see any world where the TJ Admissions Office sets a max cap on an FCPS school.