FCPS Skyview Boundary Scenario 1/2/3

[Anonymous]

Wasn't moving that area in two out of three consultant maps or am I thinking of the Cub Run part of Chantilly?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Don't have time to address each. But I think Belvoir is outer edge of Mt Vernon. In any case there is a road that goes through it that covers far fewer miles than division at Westfield.

I don't think you can just drive through a military base for a short cut. I'm not familiar with that part of Fairfax though.

Ever heard of route 1? In any case, Belvoir does not divide the boundary. It is the outer edge.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:But the same could be said of school zones with large parks, industrial areas, shopping centers, highways, etc. There's nothing peculiar about the Westfield boundary. Most of the boundaries have large areas that aren't residential.

No. Not like this. Not miles from the other neighborhoods.

This. Have you ever tried to get your kid who went to Floris to carpool with his friends, only to learn that they went to Virginia Run? I have.

There is nothing else like this in Fairfax County. Last time anyone looked there is NO other major international airport in boundary for an elementary school. Fairfax County has interactive maps. The massive chunk of Floris removed from a map shows up on Police Station coverage. IAD Dulles and City of Fairfax https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/demographics/interactive-map-police

Click on the community school maps https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/demographics/interactive-map-elementary-school

Floris has 2 SPAs that had less than 10 students each. Each should be Virginia Run/Stone/Westfield. Scenarios send them to Carson/Skyview. Area cut off by airport. Amazon data center 14501 Avion Parkway, Chantilly, Virginia 20151, United States .

2 consultants and FCPS staff missed Dulles Airport. Wegmans stayed at Cub Run/Franklin/Westfield with thru/brac. This consultant found Stone on the map. Cub Run spa adjacent to it got moved to Stone/Westfield in new scenarios 2 and 3.

Are you drunk or is this just stream of consciousness? This is fairly incomprehensible.

Look at the maps in the links I posted. Then enter addresses for Wegmans and the data center in the boundary tool. SPAs and yields in Coates process. https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/Coates-Area-Boundary-Maps.pdf

Some posts on this thread indicate potential slop like ex Westfield for Floris [or Coates or Mcnair] near Fox Mill getting on a bus to Westfield then backtracking on a bus to Skyview. If you don't get my post you need to review all these maps plus FCPS transfer data on AAP to see the scope of the mess

[Anonymous]

These two areas I think everyone agrees it makes sense to move from Chantilly to Westfield: Walney Oaks (and its BS that they got themselves moved from Franklin, GMAFB) and the small section of Cub Run across Route 28.

No other neighborhood makes obvious sense to move. If you can't admit there are reasons why it makes sense to move Lees Corner or Poplar Tree to Westfield, then you are just being intellectually dishonest.

I think the Centreville people will get moved because they aren't as politically savvy as the Chantilly people but I personally don't think its OK to be busing low income kids to a farther away, less desirable school to make the closer-by wealthy people happy. That's kind of a gross outcome.

And i think its also pretty obvious that its the Rooted in Oakton people who came up with and pushed the map with Lees Corner moved. Its so suspicious that they had that map months before the consultants produced it. Its not Bull Run people on here arguing with Chantilly--that's a lot of ESL families, that's not the DCUM demographic--its "those" Crossfield people.

[Anonymous]

Agree on Walney Oaks and the Wegmans area of Cub Run. Both those areas are closer or as close to Westfield as they are to Chantilly and a logical extension of the Westfield boundaries.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wasn't moving that area in two out of three consultant maps or am I thinking of the Cub Run part of Chantilly?

Yes. And on the one hand, that's evidence it makes sense, since they were unbiased contractors.
On the other hand, they did make a lot of strange suggestions, like moving Cabells Mill to Liberty, that no one could even puzzle out the point of.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:These two areas I think everyone agrees it makes sense to move from Chantilly to Westfield: Walney Oaks (and its BS that they got themselves moved from Franklin, GMAFB) and the small section of Cub Run across Route 28.

No other neighborhood makes obvious sense to move. If you can't admit there are reasons why it makes sense to move Lees Corner or Poplar Tree to Westfield, then you are just being intellectually dishonest.

I think the Centreville people will get moved because they aren't as politically savvy as the Chantilly people but I personally don't think its OK to be busing low income kids to a farther away, less desirable school to make the closer-by wealthy people happy. That's kind of a gross outcome.

And i think its also pretty obvious that its the Rooted in Oakton people who came up with and pushed the map with Lees Corner moved. Its so suspicious that they had that map months before the consultants produced it. Its not Bull Run people on here arguing with Chantilly--that's a lot of ESL families, that's not the DCUM demographic--its "those" Crossfield people.

Why would moving Lees Corner to Westfield benefit Rooted in Oakton? I don’t have access to that old map anymore “scenario e”, but I thought it pushed Lees Corner to Skyview not Westfield which if that had been one of the new boundary maps presented last meeting I would agree with you.

[Anonymous]

The Walney Oaks story is proof that Reid is completely inept and frankly, not very bright. Making a ridiculous promise based on a BS sob story at a public meeting. It 100% makes sense to move Walney Oaks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Walney Oaks story is proof that Reid is completely inept and frankly, not very bright. Making a ridiculous promise based on a BS sob story at a public meeting. It 100% makes sense to move Walney Oaks.

+1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:These two areas I think everyone agrees it makes sense to move from Chantilly to Westfield: Walney Oaks (and its BS that they got themselves moved from Franklin, GMAFB) and the small section of Cub Run across Route 28.

No other neighborhood makes obvious sense to move. If you can't admit there are reasons why it makes sense to move Lees Corner or Poplar Tree to Westfield, then you are just being intellectually dishonest.

I think the Centreville people will get moved because they aren't as politically savvy as the Chantilly people but I personally don't think its OK to be busing low income kids to a farther away, less desirable school to make the closer-by wealthy people happy. That's kind of a gross outcome.

And i think its also pretty obvious that its the Rooted in Oakton people who came up with and pushed the map with Lees Corner moved. Its so suspicious that they had that map months before the consultants produced it. Its not Bull Run people on here arguing with Chantilly--that's a lot of ESL families, that's not the DCUM demographic--its "those" Crossfield people.

Why would moving Lees Corner to Westfield benefit Rooted in Oakton? I don’t have access to that old map anymore “scenario e”, but I thought it pushed Lees Corner to Skyview not Westfield which if that had been one of the new boundary maps presented last meeting I would agree with you.

I think you are correct about "e." It benefited Rooted in Oakton because it is so obvious that Crossfield should be at Skyview and they were looking for a different option. But, again, Lee's Corner is right across from Chantilly. But, I think that is what put Lee's Corner in the mix. It should never have been in the mix because of its proximity to Chantilly.

[Anonymous]

My theory is RIO made the map that put Lees Corner "up for grabs", their gatehouse plant got the map in front of Reid or got it to the consultants, and that got LC in the mix, so to speak. Just a theory. Its just bizarre how RIO had a 5th map posted for half a minute.

[Anonymous]

If the second consultants were told, "Chantilly HS is overcrowded, Westfield needs students"--the most obvious solution to that problem is to find the closest "Chantilly" zoned ES to Westfield and move that area over. You don't need a conspiracy theory to see how they arrived at that proposed map.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My theory is RIO made the map that put Lees Corner "up for grabs", their gatehouse plant got the map in front of Reid or got it to the consultants, and that got LC in the mix, so to speak. Just a theory. Its just bizarre how RIO had a 5th map posted for half a minute.

They made a map that looked exactly look the FCPS boundary tool? That would be quite the accomplishment.

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Anonymous wrote:But the same could be said of school zones with large parks, industrial areas, shopping centers, highways, etc. There's nothing peculiar about the Westfield boundary. Most of the boundaries have large areas that aren't residential.

Be specific. Which one do think comes close to the same discrepancy in distance?

Oakton.

What's the large industrial area between Oakton and Oak Hill? As far as I know, it's all residential.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If the second consultants were told, "Chantilly HS is overcrowded, Westfield needs students"--the most obvious solution to that problem is to find the closest "Chantilly" zoned ES to Westfield and move that area over. You don't need a conspiracy theory to see how they arrived at that proposed map.

Interesting theory. But, the closest elementary school from Chantilly is not Lee's Corner. It's Cub Run which has some kids at Chantilly.