Taylor's Feb Rec for Crown Boundary Study

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Anonymous wrote:Anytime a decision seems really strange it's useful to look at who benefits from its outcome.

Who really benefits from moving high performers into the new high school? The Wootton community is vehemently against it, so not them. There are arguments that Rosemont and Fields Road would benefit, but nobody is opposing them using the school w/o dismantling Wootton.

Developers on the other hand rake in hand over fist on properties sold that are "districted to Wootton". These sell at VERY inflated prices.

The county's EV bus contract was recently cancelled due to corruption.


Sure, developers (and resellers, and their agents) use the school where they can to sell a property. Why, though, should there be anything beyond with whom one rubs elbows that affords that difference from a public system?

Individual student performance aside, what is it about Wootton that makes it so desirable? And why, again, separate from that performance dependent on individual student capability/effort, should MCPS have any structure that advantages Wootton over, say Magruder or Springbrook or any other MCPS HS? (Ditto Whitman over Wootton, of course.)

If there is no such non-student-based advantage, what difference would there be in housing Wootton at the Crown location instead of at its current location? Generally, that is -- aside from proximity for some, where in a decision between having Wootton open or Crown open (assuming for the moment that one or other is needed as swing space for holding other facilities under construction) there may be more county residents benefitting from the latter.
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Anonymous wrote:Anytime a decision seems really strange it's useful to look at who benefits from its outcome.

Who really benefits from moving high performers into the new high school? The Wootton community is vehemently against it, so not them. There are arguments that Rosemont and Fields Road would benefit, but nobody is opposing them using the school w/o dismantling Wootton.

Developers on the other hand rake in hand over fist on properties sold that are "districted to Wootton". These sell at VERY inflated prices.

The county's EV bus contract was recently cancelled due to corruption.


Of course. This is why, despite moving Wootton being on the drawing board since November 2024 (or May 2024 when it was taken off the CIP), MCPS decided to hide the ball when it first offered a vague Option H on December 1, 2025. Confronted with questions about ambiguities in that version, MCPS realized the jig was up and finally came clean in a reissued Option H on December 3, 2025. But by that time, MCPS could see the finish line and hoped it could delay and outrace there backlash with the holidays. The Wootton community mobilized relatively quickly, leading to very vocal opposition at meetings and petitions- all of which the BOE and MCPS ignored to the beat of their ability.

Why? Because the fix was in and Taylor already had the BOE votes he needed before even proposing Option H.


As evidence that developers will be the winners here, Crown is being renamed Wootton, even though 40% of its student body will not come from Wootton.

Also, renaming Crown to Wootton is a fig leaf for MCPS to avoid running afoul of the COMAR requirements for closing a school.


Sigh...fearmongering or just bad math? Feels like we keep doing this but...Crown will open with about 2200 kids. 1700 will be from Wootton (about 90% of students from Wootton's current feeder pattern). 200 will be from Crown and 300 from Fields Road. More than 75% of the school will be from within Wootton's current boundaries.
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Anonymous wrote:Anytime a decision seems really strange it's useful to look at who benefits from its outcome.

Who really benefits from moving high performers into the new high school? The Wootton community is vehemently against it, so not them. There are arguments that Rosemont and Fields Road would benefit, but nobody is opposing them using the school w/o dismantling Wootton.

Developers on the other hand rake in hand over fist on properties sold that are "districted to Wootton". These sell at VERY inflated prices.

The county's EV bus contract was recently cancelled due to corruption.


Of course. This is why, despite moving Wootton being on the drawing board since November 2024 (or May 2024 when it was taken off the CIP), MCPS decided to hide the ball when it first offered a vague Option H on December 1, 2025. Confronted with questions about ambiguities in that version, MCPS realized the jig was up and finally came clean in a reissued Option H on December 3, 2025. But by that time, MCPS could see the finish line and hoped it could delay and outrace there backlash with the holidays. The Wootton community mobilized relatively quickly, leading to very vocal opposition at meetings and petitions- all of which the BOE and MCPS ignored to the beat of their ability.

Why? Because the fix was in and Taylor already had the BOE votes he needed before even proposing Option H.


As evidence that developers will be the winners here, Crown is being renamed Wootton, even though 40% of its student body will not come from Wootton.

Also, renaming Crown to Wootton is a fig leaf for MCPS to avoid running afoul of the COMAR requirements for closing a school.


Sigh...fearmongering or just bad math? Feels like we keep doing this but...Crown will open with about 2200 kids. 1700 will be from Wootton (about 90% of students from Wootton's current feeder pattern). 200 will be from Crown and 300 from Fields Road. More than 75% of the school will be from within Wootton's current boundaries.


Elite level math says otherwise:

500 non-Wootton
1700 Wootton

Therefore 500/1200 = 40%

MCPS busted with lies again!
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Anonymous wrote:Anytime a decision seems really strange it's useful to look at who benefits from its outcome.

Who really benefits from moving high performers into the new high school? The Wootton community is vehemently against it, so not them. There are arguments that Rosemont and Fields Road would benefit, but nobody is opposing them using the school w/o dismantling Wootton.

Developers on the other hand rake in hand over fist on properties sold that are "districted to Wootton". These sell at VERY inflated prices.

The county's EV bus contract was recently cancelled due to corruption.


Of course. This is why, despite moving Wootton being on the drawing board since November 2024 (or May 2024 when it was taken off the CIP), MCPS decided to hide the ball when it first offered a vague Option H on December 1, 2025. Confronted with questions about ambiguities in that version, MCPS realized the jig was up and finally came clean in a reissued Option H on December 3, 2025. But by that time, MCPS could see the finish line and hoped it could delay and outrace there backlash with the holidays. The Wootton community mobilized relatively quickly, leading to very vocal opposition at meetings and petitions- all of which the BOE and MCPS ignored to the beat of their ability.

Why? Because the fix was in and Taylor already had the BOE votes he needed before even proposing Option H.


As evidence that developers will be the winners here, Crown is being renamed Wootton, even though 40% of its student body will not come from Wootton.

Also, renaming Crown to Wootton is a fig leaf for MCPS to avoid running afoul of the COMAR requirements for closing a school.


Sigh...fearmongering or just bad math? Feels like we keep doing this but...Crown will open with about 2200 kids. 1700 will be from Wootton (about 90% of students from Wootton's current feeder pattern). 200 will be from Crown and 300 from Fields Road. More than 75% of the school will be from within Wootton's current boundaries.


Elite level math says otherwise:

500 non-Wootton
1700 Wootton

Therefore 500/1200 = 40%

MCPS busted with lies again!

dp - oh my lord.... Are you a product of MCPS new math by chance?

500+1700 = 2200

500/2200 = 22.7%

The % of non Wootton students = total # of non Wootton students divided by TOTAL students at Crown.
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Anonymous wrote:Anytime a decision seems really strange it's useful to look at who benefits from its outcome.

Who really benefits from moving high performers into the new high school? The Wootton community is vehemently against it, so not them. There are arguments that Rosemont and Fields Road would benefit, but nobody is opposing them using the school w/o dismantling Wootton.

Developers on the other hand rake in hand over fist on properties sold that are "districted to Wootton". These sell at VERY inflated prices.

The county's EV bus contract was recently cancelled due to corruption.


Of course. This is why, despite moving Wootton being on the drawing board since November 2024 (or May 2024 when it was taken off the CIP), MCPS decided to hide the ball when it first offered a vague Option H on December 1, 2025. Confronted with questions about ambiguities in that version, MCPS realized the jig was up and finally came clean in a reissued Option H on December 3, 2025. But by that time, MCPS could see the finish line and hoped it could delay and outrace there backlash with the holidays. The Wootton community mobilized relatively quickly, leading to very vocal opposition at meetings and petitions- all of which the BOE and MCPS ignored to the beat of their ability.

Why? Because the fix was in and Taylor already had the BOE votes he needed before even proposing Option H.


As evidence that developers will be the winners here, Crown is being renamed Wootton, even though 40% of its student body will not come from Wootton.

Also, renaming Crown to Wootton is a fig leaf for MCPS to avoid running afoul of the COMAR requirements for closing a school.


Sigh...fearmongering or just bad math? Feels like we keep doing this but...Crown will open with about 2200 kids. 1700 will be from Wootton (about 90% of students from Wootton's current feeder pattern). 200 will be from Crown and 300 from Fields Road. More than 75% of the school will be from within Wootton's current boundaries.


Elite level math says otherwise:

500 non-Wootton
1700 Wootton

Therefore 500/1200 = 40%

MCPS busted with lies again!

dp - oh my lord.... Are you a product of MCPS new math by chance?

500+1700 = 2200

500/2200 = 22.7%

The % of non Wootton students = total # of non Wootton students divided by TOTAL students at Crown.


You're just cherry picking data to get the result you want!
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Anonymous wrote:Anytime a decision seems really strange it's useful to look at who benefits from its outcome.

Who really benefits from moving high performers into the new high school? The Wootton community is vehemently against it, so not them. There are arguments that Rosemont and Fields Road would benefit, but nobody is opposing them using the school w/o dismantling Wootton.

Developers on the other hand rake in hand over fist on properties sold that are "districted to Wootton". These sell at VERY inflated prices.

The county's EV bus contract was recently cancelled due to corruption.


Of course. This is why, despite moving Wootton being on the drawing board since November 2024 (or May 2024 when it was taken off the CIP), MCPS decided to hide the ball when it first offered a vague Option H on December 1, 2025. Confronted with questions about ambiguities in that version, MCPS realized the jig was up and finally came clean in a reissued Option H on December 3, 2025. But by that time, MCPS could see the finish line and hoped it could delay and outrace there backlash with the holidays. The Wootton community mobilized relatively quickly, leading to very vocal opposition at meetings and petitions- all of which the BOE and MCPS ignored to the beat of their ability.

Why? Because the fix was in and Taylor already had the BOE votes he needed before even proposing Option H.


As evidence that developers will be the winners here, Crown is being renamed Wootton, even though 40% of its student body will not come from Wootton.

Also, renaming Crown to Wootton is a fig leaf for MCPS to avoid running afoul of the COMAR requirements for closing a school.


Sigh...fearmongering or just bad math? Feels like we keep doing this but...Crown will open with about 2200 kids. 1700 will be from Wootton (about 90% of students from Wootton's current feeder pattern). 200 will be from Crown and 300 from Fields Road. More than 75% of the school will be from within Wootton's current boundaries.


Elite level math says otherwise:

500 non-Wootton
1700 Wootton

Therefore 500/1200 = 40%

MCPS busted with lies again!

dp - oh my lord.... Are you a product of MCPS new math by chance?

500+1700 = 2200

500/2200 = 22.7%

The % of non Wootton students = total # of non Wootton students divided by TOTAL students at Crown.


Frost is changed the most compared to Wootton. ~300-400 new students in and 300-400 existing students out for a student body of 900. That’s a completely different middle school and will no longer perform as well as Hoover and cabin John
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Anonymous wrote:Anytime a decision seems really strange it's useful to look at who benefits from its outcome.

Who really benefits from moving high performers into the new high school? The Wootton community is vehemently against it, so not them. There are arguments that Rosemont and Fields Road would benefit, but nobody is opposing them using the school w/o dismantling Wootton.

Developers on the other hand rake in hand over fist on properties sold that are "districted to Wootton". These sell at VERY inflated prices.

The county's EV bus contract was recently cancelled due to corruption.


Of course. This is why, despite moving Wootton being on the drawing board since November 2024 (or May 2024 when it was taken off the CIP), MCPS decided to hide the ball when it first offered a vague Option H on December 1, 2025. Confronted with questions about ambiguities in that version, MCPS realized the jig was up and finally came clean in a reissued Option H on December 3, 2025. But by that time, MCPS could see the finish line and hoped it could delay and outrace there backlash with the holidays. The Wootton community mobilized relatively quickly, leading to very vocal opposition at meetings and petitions- all of which the BOE and MCPS ignored to the beat of their ability.

Why? Because the fix was in and Taylor already had the BOE votes he needed before even proposing Option H.


As evidence that developers will be the winners here, Crown is being renamed Wootton, even though 40% of its student body will not come from Wootton.

Also, renaming Crown to Wootton is a fig leaf for MCPS to avoid running afoul of the COMAR requirements for closing a school.


Sigh...fearmongering or just bad math? Feels like we keep doing this but...Crown will open with about 2200 kids. 1700 will be from Wootton (about 90% of students from Wootton's current feeder pattern). 200 will be from Crown and 300 from Fields Road. More than 75% of the school will be from within Wootton's current boundaries.


Elite level math says otherwise:

500 non-Wootton
1700 Wootton

Therefore 500/1200 = 40%

MCPS busted with lies again!

dp - oh my lord.... Are you a product of MCPS new math by chance?

500+1700 = 2200

500/2200 = 22.7%

The % of non Wootton students = total # of non Wootton students divided by TOTAL students at Crown.


maybe a tape diagram would help
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Anonymous wrote:Anytime a decision seems really strange it's useful to look at who benefits from its outcome.

Who really benefits from moving high performers into the new high school? The Wootton community is vehemently against it, so not them. There are arguments that Rosemont and Fields Road would benefit, but nobody is opposing them using the school w/o dismantling Wootton.

Developers on the other hand rake in hand over fist on properties sold that are "districted to Wootton". These sell at VERY inflated prices.

The county's EV bus contract was recently cancelled due to corruption.


Of course. This is why, despite moving Wootton being on the drawing board since November 2024 (or May 2024 when it was taken off the CIP), MCPS decided to hide the ball when it first offered a vague Option H on December 1, 2025. Confronted with questions about ambiguities in that version, MCPS realized the jig was up and finally came clean in a reissued Option H on December 3, 2025. But by that time, MCPS could see the finish line and hoped it could delay and outrace there backlash with the holidays. The Wootton community mobilized relatively quickly, leading to very vocal opposition at meetings and petitions- all of which the BOE and MCPS ignored to the beat of their ability.

Why? Because the fix was in and Taylor already had the BOE votes he needed before even proposing Option H.


As evidence that developers will be the winners here, Crown is being renamed Wootton, even though 40% of its student body will not come from Wootton.

Also, renaming Crown to Wootton is a fig leaf for MCPS to avoid running afoul of the COMAR requirements for closing a school.


Sigh...fearmongering or just bad math? Feels like we keep doing this but...Crown will open with about 2200 kids. 1700 will be from Wootton (about 90% of students from Wootton's current feeder pattern). 200 will be from Crown and 300 from Fields Road. More than 75% of the school will be from within Wootton's current boundaries.


Elite level math says otherwise:

500 non-Wootton
1700 Wootton

Therefore 500/1200 = 40%

MCPS busted with lies again!

dp - oh my lord.... Are you a product of MCPS new math by chance?

500+1700 = 2200

500/2200 = 22.7%

The % of non Wootton students = total # of non Wootton students divided by TOTAL students at Crown.


Frost is changed the most compared to Wootton. ~300-400 new students in and 300-400 existing students out for a student body of 900. That’s a completely different middle school and will no longer perform as well as Hoover and cabin John


How do you know that re: performance??
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Anonymous wrote:Anytime a decision seems really strange it's useful to look at who benefits from its outcome.

Who really benefits from moving high performers into the new high school? The Wootton community is vehemently against it, so not them. There are arguments that Rosemont and Fields Road would benefit, but nobody is opposing them using the school w/o dismantling Wootton.

Developers on the other hand rake in hand over fist on properties sold that are "districted to Wootton". These sell at VERY inflated prices.

The county's EV bus contract was recently cancelled due to corruption.


Of course. This is why, despite moving Wootton being on the drawing board since November 2024 (or May 2024 when it was taken off the CIP), MCPS decided to hide the ball when it first offered a vague Option H on December 1, 2025. Confronted with questions about ambiguities in that version, MCPS realized the jig was up and finally came clean in a reissued Option H on December 3, 2025. But by that time, MCPS could see the finish line and hoped it could delay and outrace there backlash with the holidays. The Wootton community mobilized relatively quickly, leading to very vocal opposition at meetings and petitions- all of which the BOE and MCPS ignored to the beat of their ability.

Why? Because the fix was in and Taylor already had the BOE votes he needed before even proposing Option H.


As evidence that developers will be the winners here, Crown is being renamed Wootton, even though 40% of its student body will not come from Wootton.

Also, renaming Crown to Wootton is a fig leaf for MCPS to avoid running afoul of the COMAR requirements for closing a school.


Sigh...fearmongering or just bad math? Feels like we keep doing this but...Crown will open with about 2200 kids. 1700 will be from Wootton (about 90% of students from Wootton's current feeder pattern). 200 will be from Crown and 300 from Fields Road. More than 75% of the school will be from within Wootton's current boundaries.


Elite level math says otherwise:

500 non-Wootton
1700 Wootton

Therefore 500/1200 = 40%

MCPS busted with lies again!

dp - oh my lord.... Are you a product of MCPS new math by chance?

500+1700 = 2200

500/2200 = 22.7%

The % of non Wootton students = total # of non Wootton students divided by TOTAL students at Crown.


Frost is changed the most compared to Wootton. ~300-400 new students in and 300-400 existing students out for a student body of 900. That’s a completely different middle school and will no longer perform as well as Hoover and cabin John


Frost changing is 100% the reason why parkway parents are mad - the demographics dont line up with what they want. They dont want to look bad. "oh no they are closing wootton" sounds a bit less horrible than "oh no FARMS in our neighborhood"
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Anonymous wrote:Anytime a decision seems really strange it's useful to look at who benefits from its outcome.

Who really benefits from moving high performers into the new high school? The Wootton community is vehemently against it, so not them. There are arguments that Rosemont and Fields Road would benefit, but nobody is opposing them using the school w/o dismantling Wootton.

Developers on the other hand rake in hand over fist on properties sold that are "districted to Wootton". These sell at VERY inflated prices.

The county's EV bus contract was recently cancelled due to corruption.


Of course. This is why, despite moving Wootton being on the drawing board since November 2024 (or May 2024 when it was taken off the CIP), MCPS decided to hide the ball when it first offered a vague Option H on December 1, 2025. Confronted with questions about ambiguities in that version, MCPS realized the jig was up and finally came clean in a reissued Option H on December 3, 2025. But by that time, MCPS could see the finish line and hoped it could delay and outrace there backlash with the holidays. The Wootton community mobilized relatively quickly, leading to very vocal opposition at meetings and petitions- all of which the BOE and MCPS ignored to the beat of their ability.

Why? Because the fix was in and Taylor already had the BOE votes he needed before even proposing Option H.


As evidence that developers will be the winners here, Crown is being renamed Wootton, even though 40% of its student body will not come from Wootton.

Also, renaming Crown to Wootton is a fig leaf for MCPS to avoid running afoul of the COMAR requirements for closing a school.


Sigh...fearmongering or just bad math? Feels like we keep doing this but...Crown will open with about 2200 kids. 1700 will be from Wootton (about 90% of students from Wootton's current feeder pattern). 200 will be from Crown and 300 from Fields Road. More than 75% of the school will be from within Wootton's current boundaries.


Elite level math says otherwise:

500 non-Wootton
1700 Wootton

Therefore 500/1200 = 40%

MCPS busted with lies again!

dp - oh my lord.... Are you a product of MCPS new math by chance?

500+1700 = 2200

500/2200 = 22.7%

The % of non Wootton students = total # of non Wootton students divided by TOTAL students at Crown.


Frost is changed the most compared to Wootton. ~300-400 new students in and 300-400 existing students out for a student body of 900. That’s a completely different middle school and will no longer perform as well as Hoover and cabin John


How do you know that re: performance??


We can place a bet on this
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Anonymous wrote:Anytime a decision seems really strange it's useful to look at who benefits from its outcome.

Who really benefits from moving high performers into the new high school? The Wootton community is vehemently against it, so not them. There are arguments that Rosemont and Fields Road would benefit, but nobody is opposing them using the school w/o dismantling Wootton.

Developers on the other hand rake in hand over fist on properties sold that are "districted to Wootton". These sell at VERY inflated prices.

The county's EV bus contract was recently cancelled due to corruption.


Of course. This is why, despite moving Wootton being on the drawing board since November 2024 (or May 2024 when it was taken off the CIP), MCPS decided to hide the ball when it first offered a vague Option H on December 1, 2025. Confronted with questions about ambiguities in that version, MCPS realized the jig was up and finally came clean in a reissued Option H on December 3, 2025. But by that time, MCPS could see the finish line and hoped it could delay and outrace there backlash with the holidays. The Wootton community mobilized relatively quickly, leading to very vocal opposition at meetings and petitions- all of which the BOE and MCPS ignored to the beat of their ability.

Why? Because the fix was in and Taylor already had the BOE votes he needed before even proposing Option H.


As evidence that developers will be the winners here, Crown is being renamed Wootton, even though 40% of its student body will not come from Wootton.

Also, renaming Crown to Wootton is a fig leaf for MCPS to avoid running afoul of the COMAR requirements for closing a school.


Sigh...fearmongering or just bad math? Feels like we keep doing this but...Crown will open with about 2200 kids. 1700 will be from Wootton (about 90% of students from Wootton's current feeder pattern). 200 will be from Crown and 300 from Fields Road. More than 75% of the school will be from within Wootton's current boundaries.


Elite level math says otherwise:

500 non-Wootton
1700 Wootton

Therefore 500/1200 = 40%

MCPS busted with lies again!

dp - oh my lord.... Are you a product of MCPS new math by chance?

500+1700 = 2200

500/2200 = 22.7%

The % of non Wootton students = total # of non Wootton students divided by TOTAL students at Crown.


Frost is changed the most compared to Wootton. ~300-400 new students in and 300-400 existing students out for a student body of 900. That’s a completely different middle school and will no longer perform as well as Hoover and cabin John


Frost changing is 100% the reason why parkway parents are mad - the demographics dont line up with what they want. They dont want to look bad. "oh no they are closing wootton" sounds a bit less horrible than "oh no FARMS in our neighborhood"


It’s not that simple. Losing a connected MS-HS campus is a huge loss in addition to lowered performance
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What are the "bad" elementary schools that will articulate to Frost?
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Anonymous wrote:Anytime a decision seems really strange it's useful to look at who benefits from its outcome.

Who really benefits from moving high performers into the new high school? The Wootton community is vehemently against it, so not them. There are arguments that Rosemont and Fields Road would benefit, but nobody is opposing them using the school w/o dismantling Wootton.

Developers on the other hand rake in hand over fist on properties sold that are "districted to Wootton". These sell at VERY inflated prices.

The county's EV bus contract was recently cancelled due to corruption.


Of course. This is why, despite moving Wootton being on the drawing board since November 2024 (or May 2024 when it was taken off the CIP), MCPS decided to hide the ball when it first offered a vague Option H on December 1, 2025. Confronted with questions about ambiguities in that version, MCPS realized the jig was up and finally came clean in a reissued Option H on December 3, 2025. But by that time, MCPS could see the finish line and hoped it could delay and outrace there backlash with the holidays. The Wootton community mobilized relatively quickly, leading to very vocal opposition at meetings and petitions- all of which the BOE and MCPS ignored to the beat of their ability.

Why? Because the fix was in and Taylor already had the BOE votes he needed before even proposing Option H.


As evidence that developers will be the winners here, Crown is being renamed Wootton, even though 40% of its student body will not come from Wootton.

Also, renaming Crown to Wootton is a fig leaf for MCPS to avoid running afoul of the COMAR requirements for closing a school.


Sigh...fearmongering or just bad math? Feels like we keep doing this but...Crown will open with about 2200 kids. 1700 will be from Wootton (about 90% of students from Wootton's current feeder pattern). 200 will be from Crown and 300 from Fields Road. More than 75% of the school will be from within Wootton's current boundaries.


Elite level math says otherwise:

500 non-Wootton
1700 Wootton

Therefore 500/1200 = 40%

MCPS busted with lies again!

dp - oh my lord.... Are you a product of MCPS new math by chance?

500+1700 = 2200

500/2200 = 22.7%

The % of non Wootton students = total # of non Wootton students divided by TOTAL students at Crown.


Frost is changed the most compared to Wootton. ~300-400 new students in and 300-400 existing students out for a student body of 900. That’s a completely different middle school and will no longer perform as well as Hoover and cabin John


Frost changing is 100% the reason why parkway parents are mad - the demographics dont line up with what they want. They dont want to look bad. "oh no they are closing wootton" sounds a bit less horrible than "oh no FARMS in our neighborhood"


It’s not that simple. Losing a connected MS-HS campus is a huge loss in addition to lowered performance


Think of the benefits of them not being next to each other too though - if there is an incident at the HS you dont have to also worry about the MS nearby. You dont have to worry about HS students dating MS students. You don't have to worry about MS students being exposed to HS drugs (and lets not pretend there are not drug users at Wootton - and that they arent from the neighborhood, because there are for sure plenty)
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Anonymous wrote:Anytime a decision seems really strange it's useful to look at who benefits from its outcome.

Who really benefits from moving high performers into the new high school? The Wootton community is vehemently against it, so not them. There are arguments that Rosemont and Fields Road would benefit, but nobody is opposing them using the school w/o dismantling Wootton.

Developers on the other hand rake in hand over fist on properties sold that are "districted to Wootton". These sell at VERY inflated prices.

The county's EV bus contract was recently cancelled due to corruption.


Of course. This is why, despite moving Wootton being on the drawing board since November 2024 (or May 2024 when it was taken off the CIP), MCPS decided to hide the ball when it first offered a vague Option H on December 1, 2025. Confronted with questions about ambiguities in that version, MCPS realized the jig was up and finally came clean in a reissued Option H on December 3, 2025. But by that time, MCPS could see the finish line and hoped it could delay and outrace there backlash with the holidays. The Wootton community mobilized relatively quickly, leading to very vocal opposition at meetings and petitions- all of which the BOE and MCPS ignored to the beat of their ability.

Why? Because the fix was in and Taylor already had the BOE votes he needed before even proposing Option H.


As evidence that developers will be the winners here, Crown is being renamed Wootton, even though 40% of its student body will not come from Wootton.

Also, renaming Crown to Wootton is a fig leaf for MCPS to avoid running afoul of the COMAR requirements for closing a school.


Sigh...fearmongering or just bad math? Feels like we keep doing this but...Crown will open with about 2200 kids. 1700 will be from Wootton (about 90% of students from Wootton's current feeder pattern). 200 will be from Crown and 300 from Fields Road. More than 75% of the school will be from within Wootton's current boundaries.


Elite level math says otherwise:

500 non-Wootton
1700 Wootton

Therefore 500/1200 = 40%

MCPS busted with lies again!

dp - oh my lord.... Are you a product of MCPS new math by chance?

500+1700 = 2200

500/2200 = 22.7%

The % of non Wootton students = total # of non Wootton students divided by TOTAL students at Crown.


Frost is changed the most compared to Wootton. ~300-400 new students in and 300-400 existing students out for a student body of 900. That’s a completely different middle school and will no longer perform as well as Hoover and cabin John


Frost changing is 100% the reason why parkway parents are mad - the demographics dont line up with what they want. They dont want to look bad. "oh no they are closing wootton" sounds a bit less horrible than "oh no FARMS in our neighborhood"


It’s not that simple. Losing a connected MS-HS campus is a huge loss in addition to lowered performance


Think of the benefits of them not being next to each other too though - if there is an incident at the HS you dont have to also worry about the MS nearby. You dont have to worry about HS students dating MS students. You don't have to worry about MS students being exposed to HS drugs (and lets not pretend there are not drug users at Wootton - and that they arent from the neighborhood, because there are for sure plenty)


Don't forget. There are 9 hotels near the future Wootton at Crown - so the dating, drug use and debauchery can happen in peace by just the highschoolers at the said hotels. They can't as easily drag middle schoolers into the mix.
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Anonymous wrote:Anytime a decision seems really strange it's useful to look at who benefits from its outcome.

Who really benefits from moving high performers into the new high school? The Wootton community is vehemently against it, so not them. There are arguments that Rosemont and Fields Road would benefit, but nobody is opposing them using the school w/o dismantling Wootton.

Developers on the other hand rake in hand over fist on properties sold that are "districted to Wootton". These sell at VERY inflated prices.

The county's EV bus contract was recently cancelled due to corruption.


Of course. This is why, despite moving Wootton being on the drawing board since November 2024 (or May 2024 when it was taken off the CIP), MCPS decided to hide the ball when it first offered a vague Option H on December 1, 2025. Confronted with questions about ambiguities in that version, MCPS realized the jig was up and finally came clean in a reissued Option H on December 3, 2025. But by that time, MCPS could see the finish line and hoped it could delay and outrace there backlash with the holidays. The Wootton community mobilized relatively quickly, leading to very vocal opposition at meetings and petitions- all of which the BOE and MCPS ignored to the beat of their ability.

Why? Because the fix was in and Taylor already had the BOE votes he needed before even proposing Option H.


As evidence that developers will be the winners here, Crown is being renamed Wootton, even though 40% of its student body will not come from Wootton.

Also, renaming Crown to Wootton is a fig leaf for MCPS to avoid running afoul of the COMAR requirements for closing a school.


Sigh...fearmongering or just bad math? Feels like we keep doing this but...Crown will open with about 2200 kids. 1700 will be from Wootton (about 90% of students from Wootton's current feeder pattern). 200 will be from Crown and 300 from Fields Road. More than 75% of the school will be from within Wootton's current boundaries.


Elite level math says otherwise:

500 non-Wootton
1700 Wootton

Therefore 500/1200 = 40%

MCPS busted with lies again!

dp - oh my lord.... Are you a product of MCPS new math by chance?

500+1700 = 2200

500/2200 = 22.7%

The % of non Wootton students = total # of non Wootton students divided by TOTAL students at Crown.


Frost is changed the most compared to Wootton. ~300-400 new students in and 300-400 existing students out for a student body of 900. That’s a completely different middle school and will no longer perform as well as Hoover and cabin John


Frost changing is 100% the reason why parkway parents are mad - the demographics dont line up with what they want. They dont want to look bad. "oh no they are closing wootton" sounds a bit less horrible than "oh no FARMS in our neighborhood"


It’s not that simple. Losing a connected MS-HS campus is a huge loss in addition to lowered performance


Think of the benefits of them not being next to each other too though - if there is an incident at the HS you dont have to also worry about the MS nearby. You dont have to worry about HS students dating MS students. You don't have to worry about MS students being exposed to HS drugs (and lets not pretend there are not drug users at Wootton - and that they arent from the neighborhood, because there are for sure plenty)


The issues you mentioned above have never been a problem for my DD. However, I also have a younger child who will attend Frost in the future. Losing the connected orchestra/band program, after-school clubs and tutoring, and many other valuable partnerships would be a significant loss for our family
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