Initial boundary options for Crown/Damascus study

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Anonymous wrote:I wish we could fast forward to September to see those "refined options"

There may be a Wayside to Gaithersburg option to make the Wootton option look better.

- Flo

Wayside to Gaitherburg option should have been there to start with. How will be the bus ride in this case? If it's longer than 25 minutes then it's an issue. As long as it's less than 25 minutes, it will work.

Wayside has Churchill at 2.4 miles, Wotton at 4 miles, crown at 7.2 miles, and Gaithersburg at 9.7 miles...where is this came from? and not to mention Gaithersburg is overcapacity....= =

Whats the driving time for Gaithersburg? Gaithersburg can send more to Crown.

Gaithersburg and Crown are already relatively high FARMS.

The only way Gaithersburg can be brought into Crown is if they add more richer areas to Crown.

Quince Orchard HS, Northwest HS and Crown HS are all really close with each other, which kind of makes it hard to mix up school zones.

For example Great Seneca Creek could potentially be brought to QO due to proximity and FARMS rate.

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/schools/elementary-schools/d-g/greatsenecacreekes/uploadedfiles/about/02340.pdf

But the issue is that Great Seneca Creek is practically right next to Northwest and doesn't make sense to have them go all the way to QO.

The area a little bit east of Great Seneca Creek for Brown Station is currently zoned for Quince Orchard but some options have it going to Northwest.

While Quince Orchard may be overcrowded now, not having the Fields Road Elementary School area will help it in terms of capacity, and they can keep these areas like around Brown Station and not try to offload it to Northwest and affecting Northwest's FARMs rates.

Then Crown can pull from some more richer areas and then can maybe pull from some areas from Gaitherburg High. It looks like some of the options has some of the nicer areas of Gaithersburg High going elsewhere and is probably what is affecting it's FARMs rates.

When they first announced Crown, I assumed that they'd pull from some areas that just seemed like common sense to me and would result in a fairly balanced school. I'm not going to list it because it does serve my own purposes and it will probably tick off the people in the areas where I'd say it make sense to rezone to Crown.

But if they do any other moves outside of that, you'd have to wonder if they have some other agenda.

And with the issue with Churchill, they probably should first look into moving any special programs that may have out of residents outside of it's zone first. I do know of some families who purposely go into the program just so that their kids can go to Churchill. Then they should probably look at all sides of the boundaries to see where they may be able to readjust it, instead of limiting it to just one or two schools in another direction.

Not sure why they're making things more complicated than they have to.

Crown itself is a very wealthy area, and the housing prices near Crown are very high. I think a reasonable area to pull from would definitely be within a 2-mile radius. Also, aren't they planning to build 2 or 3 more apartment complexes near Rio? I think Crown will be full—just give it some time.

Someone told me(so don't know how accurate it is) that MCPS or whomever didn't forecast the actual Crown community as having many families. They might be expecting more younger adults living there.

Not that MCPS always correctly guesses this kind of stuff all the time.

Yes, that's what MCPS said about the Tower Oaks development when the boundary for Rustin was being drawn. According to data from last year, Rustin is under capacity.

Looks like Rustin is just at capacity.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish we could fast forward to September to see those "refined options"

There may be a Wayside to Gaithersburg option to make the Wootton option look better.

- Flo

Wayside to Gaitherburg option should have been there to start with. How will be the bus ride in this case? If it's longer than 25 minutes then it's an issue. As long as it's less than 25 minutes, it will work.

Wayside has Churchill at 2.4 miles, Wotton at 4 miles, crown at 7.2 miles, and Gaithersburg at 9.7 miles...where is this came from? and not to mention Gaithersburg is overcapacity....= =

Whats the driving time for Gaithersburg? Gaithersburg can send more to Crown.

Gaithersburg and Crown are already relatively high FARMS.

The only way Gaithersburg can be brought into Crown is if they add more richer areas to Crown.

Quince Orchard HS, Northwest HS and Crown HS are all really close with each other, which kind of makes it hard to mix up school zones.

For example Great Seneca Creek could potentially be brought to QO due to proximity and FARMS rate.

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/schools/elementary-schools/d-g/greatsenecacreekes/uploadedfiles/about/02340.pdf

But the issue is that Great Seneca Creek is practically right next to Northwest and doesn't make sense to have them go all the way to QO.

The area a little bit east of Great Seneca Creek for Brown Station is currently zoned for Quince Orchard but some options have it going to Northwest.

While Quince Orchard may be overcrowded now, not having the Fields Road Elementary School area will help it in terms of capacity, and they can keep these areas like around Brown Station and not try to offload it to Northwest and affecting Northwest's FARMs rates.

Then Crown can pull from some more richer areas and then can maybe pull from some areas from Gaitherburg High. It looks like some of the options has some of the nicer areas of Gaithersburg High going elsewhere and is probably what is affecting it's FARMs rates.

When they first announced Crown, I assumed that they'd pull from some areas that just seemed like common sense to me and would result in a fairly balanced school. I'm not going to list it because it does serve my own purposes and it will probably tick off the people in the areas where I'd say it make sense to rezone to Crown.

But if they do any other moves outside of that, you'd have to wonder if they have some other agenda.

And with the issue with Churchill, they probably should first look into moving any special programs that may have out of residents outside of it's zone first. I do know of some families who purposely go into the program just so that their kids can go to Churchill. Then they should probably look at all sides of the boundaries to see where they may be able to readjust it, instead of limiting it to just one or two schools in another direction.

Not sure why they're making things more complicated than they have to.

Crown itself is a very wealthy area, and the housing prices near Crown are very high. I think a reasonable area to pull from would definitely be within a 2-mile radius. Also, aren't they planning to build 2 or 3 more apartment complexes near Rio? I think Crown will be full—just give it some time.

Someone told me(so don't know how accurate it is) that MCPS or whomever didn't forecast the actual Crown community as having many families. They might be expecting more younger adults living there.

Not that MCPS always correctly guesses this kind of stuff all the time.

Well, that does make sense at some point. When we were house hunting, Crown wasn't on our list at all. It’s very pricey but doesn’t come with the public schools to match the price. I do know families living in Crown with small children, but they mainly consider private schools. I do feel like Crown will attract younger adults more.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish we could fast forward to September to see those "refined options"

There may be a Wayside to Gaithersburg option to make the Wootton option look better.

- Flo

Wayside to Gaitherburg option should have been there to start with. How will be the bus ride in this case? If it's longer than 25 minutes then it's an issue. As long as it's less than 25 minutes, it will work.

Wayside has Churchill at 2.4 miles, Wotton at 4 miles, crown at 7.2 miles, and Gaithersburg at 9.7 miles...where is this came from? and not to mention Gaithersburg is overcapacity....= =

Whats the driving time for Gaithersburg? Gaithersburg can send more to Crown.

Gaithersburg and Crown are already relatively high FARMS.

The only way Gaithersburg can be brought into Crown is if they add more richer areas to Crown.

Quince Orchard HS, Northwest HS and Crown HS are all really close with each other, which kind of makes it hard to mix up school zones.

For example Great Seneca Creek could potentially be brought to QO due to proximity and FARMS rate.

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/schools/elementary-schools/d-g/greatsenecacreekes/uploadedfiles/about/02340.pdf

But the issue is that Great Seneca Creek is practically right next to Northwest and doesn't make sense to have them go all the way to QO.

The area a little bit east of Great Seneca Creek for Brown Station is currently zoned for Quince Orchard but some options have it going to Northwest.

While Quince Orchard may be overcrowded now, not having the Fields Road Elementary School area will help it in terms of capacity, and they can keep these areas like around Brown Station and not try to offload it to Northwest and affecting Northwest's FARMs rates.

Then Crown can pull from some more richer areas and then can maybe pull from some areas from Gaitherburg High. It looks like some of the options has some of the nicer areas of Gaithersburg High going elsewhere and is probably what is affecting it's FARMs rates.

When they first announced Crown, I assumed that they'd pull from some areas that just seemed like common sense to me and would result in a fairly balanced school. I'm not going to list it because it does serve my own purposes and it will probably tick off the people in the areas where I'd say it make sense to rezone to Crown.

But if they do any other moves outside of that, you'd have to wonder if they have some other agenda.

And with the issue with Churchill, they probably should first look into moving any special programs that may have out of residents outside of it's zone first. I do know of some families who purposely go into the program just so that their kids can go to Churchill. Then they should probably look at all sides of the boundaries to see where they may be able to readjust it, instead of limiting it to just one or two schools in another direction.

Not sure why they're making things more complicated than they have to.

Crown itself is a very wealthy area, and the housing prices near Crown are very high. I think a reasonable area to pull from would definitely be within a 2-mile radius. Also, aren't they planning to build 2 or 3 more apartment complexes near Rio? I think Crown will be full—just give it some time.

Someone told me(so don't know how accurate it is) that MCPS or whomever didn't forecast the actual Crown community as having many families. They might be expecting more younger adults living there.

Not that MCPS always correctly guesses this kind of stuff all the time.

MCPS alone doesn’t create the forecasting. They get it from county sources who clearly had outdated ideas about what people lived in what housing. Like thinking townhomes did not have many kids. Same with apartments. Whether that was done intentionally to appease developers or because of bias, the end result was the same, under forecasting and thus schools overcrowded.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish we could fast forward to September to see those "refined options"

There may be a Wayside to Gaithersburg option to make the Wootton option look better.

- Flo

Wayside to Gaitherburg option should have been there to start with. How will be the bus ride in this case? If it's longer than 25 minutes then it's an issue. As long as it's less than 25 minutes, it will work.

Wayside has Churchill at 2.4 miles, Wotton at 4 miles, crown at 7.2 miles, and Gaithersburg at 9.7 miles...where is this came from? and not to mention Gaithersburg is overcapacity....= =

Whats the driving time for Gaithersburg? Gaithersburg can send more to Crown.

Gaithersburg and Crown are already relatively high FARMS.

The only way Gaithersburg can be brought into Crown is if they add more richer areas to Crown.

Quince Orchard HS, Northwest HS and Crown HS are all really close with each other, which kind of makes it hard to mix up school zones.

For example Great Seneca Creek could potentially be brought to QO due to proximity and FARMS rate.

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/schools/elementary-schools/d-g/greatsenecacreekes/uploadedfiles/about/02340.pdf

But the issue is that Great Seneca Creek is practically right next to Northwest and doesn't make sense to have them go all the way to QO.

The area a little bit east of Great Seneca Creek for Brown Station is currently zoned for Quince Orchard but some options have it going to Northwest.

While Quince Orchard may be overcrowded now, not having the Fields Road Elementary School area will help it in terms of capacity, and they can keep these areas like around Brown Station and not try to offload it to Northwest and affecting Northwest's FARMs rates.

Then Crown can pull from some more richer areas and then can maybe pull from some areas from Gaitherburg High. It looks like some of the options has some of the nicer areas of Gaithersburg High going elsewhere and is probably what is affecting it's FARMs rates.

When they first announced Crown, I assumed that they'd pull from some areas that just seemed like common sense to me and would result in a fairly balanced school. I'm not going to list it because it does serve my own purposes and it will probably tick off the people in the areas where I'd say it make sense to rezone to Crown.

But if they do any other moves outside of that, you'd have to wonder if they have some other agenda.

And with the issue with Churchill, they probably should first look into moving any special programs that may have out of residents outside of it's zone first. I do know of some families who purposely go into the program just so that their kids can go to Churchill. Then they should probably look at all sides of the boundaries to see where they may be able to readjust it, instead of limiting it to just one or two schools in another direction.

Not sure why they're making things more complicated than they have to.

Crown itself is a very wealthy area, and the housing prices near Crown are very high. I think a reasonable area to pull from would definitely be within a 2-mile radius. Also, aren't they planning to build 2 or 3 more apartment complexes near Rio? I think Crown will be full—just give it some time.

Someone told me(so don't know how accurate it is) that MCPS or whomever didn't forecast the actual Crown community as having many families. They might be expecting more younger adults living there.

Not that MCPS always correctly guesses this kind of stuff all the time.

Yes, that's what MCPS said about the Tower Oaks development when the boundary for Rustin was being drawn. According to data from last year, Rustin is under capacity.

Looks like Rustin is just at capacity.

If a development feeds to good schools, it will attract families. Mcps has it backwards. If new development or established neighborhoods feed to high FARMS, you won’t have families buying/moving in.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish we could fast forward to September to see those "refined options"

There may be a Wayside to Gaithersburg option to make the Wootton option look better.

- Flo

Wayside to Gaitherburg option should have been there to start with. How will be the bus ride in this case? If it's longer than 25 minutes then it's an issue. As long as it's less than 25 minutes, it will work.

Wayside has Churchill at 2.4 miles, Wotton at 4 miles, crown at 7.2 miles, and Gaithersburg at 9.7 miles...where is this came from? and not to mention Gaithersburg is overcapacity....= =

Whats the driving time for Gaithersburg? Gaithersburg can send more to Crown.

Gaithersburg and Crown are already relatively high FARMS.

The only way Gaithersburg can be brought into Crown is if they add more richer areas to Crown.

Quince Orchard HS, Northwest HS and Crown HS are all really close with each other, which kind of makes it hard to mix up school zones.

For example Great Seneca Creek could potentially be brought to QO due to proximity and FARMS rate.

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/schools/elementary-schools/d-g/greatsenecacreekes/uploadedfiles/about/02340.pdf

But the issue is that Great Seneca Creek is practically right next to Northwest and doesn't make sense to have them go all the way to QO.

The area a little bit east of Great Seneca Creek for Brown Station is currently zoned for Quince Orchard but some options have it going to Northwest.

While Quince Orchard may be overcrowded now, not having the Fields Road Elementary School area will help it in terms of capacity, and they can keep these areas like around Brown Station and not try to offload it to Northwest and affecting Northwest's FARMs rates.

Then Crown can pull from some more richer areas and then can maybe pull from some areas from Gaitherburg High. It looks like some of the options has some of the nicer areas of Gaithersburg High going elsewhere and is probably what is affecting it's FARMs rates.

When they first announced Crown, I assumed that they'd pull from some areas that just seemed like common sense to me and would result in a fairly balanced school. I'm not going to list it because it does serve my own purposes and it will probably tick off the people in the areas where I'd say it make sense to rezone to Crown.

But if they do any other moves outside of that, you'd have to wonder if they have some other agenda.

And with the issue with Churchill, they probably should first look into moving any special programs that may have out of residents outside of it's zone first. I do know of some families who purposely go into the program just so that their kids can go to Churchill. Then they should probably look at all sides of the boundaries to see where they may be able to readjust it, instead of limiting it to just one or two schools in another direction.

Not sure why they're making things more complicated than they have to.

Crown itself is a very wealthy area, and the housing prices near Crown are very high. I think a reasonable area to pull from would definitely be within a 2-mile radius. Also, aren't they planning to build 2 or 3 more apartment complexes near Rio? I think Crown will be full—just give it some time.

Someone told me(so don't know how accurate it is) that MCPS or whomever didn't forecast the actual Crown community as having many families. They might be expecting more younger adults living there.

Not that MCPS always correctly guesses this kind of stuff all the time.

Yes, that's what MCPS said about the Tower Oaks development when the boundary for Rustin was being drawn. According to data from last year, Rustin is under capacity.

Looks like Rustin is just at capacity.

If a development feeds to good schools, it will attract families. Mcps has it backwards. If new development or established neighborhoods feed to high FARMS, you won’t have families buying/moving in.

Well they might move in but won't send their kids to the area schools.

For whatever reason we know a lot of families that live in Washingtonian Woods (the community near the intersection of Muddy Branch and Great Seneca), Lakelands and Kentlands that send their kids to private schools.

We had one person who lives on the northern side of King Farm who said that their family and most of their neighbors send their kids to a particular private school and that private school sends a bus to their neighborhood.

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Anonymous wrote:This is too long for me to read through, but why isn't Ritchie Park going to Wootton instead of Wayside? This would make all of Wayside drive past Horizon Hill to get to high school. Is this just MCPS being stubborn and not changing it back from the 80's/90's zoning issue?

Because MCPS is more concerned with demographics than common sense.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish we could fast forward to September to see those "refined options"

There may be a Wayside to Gaithersburg option to make the Wootton option look better.

- Flo

Wayside to Gaitherburg option should have been there to start with. How will be the bus ride in this case? If it's longer than 25 minutes then it's an issue. As long as it's less than 25 minutes, it will work.

Wayside has Churchill at 2.4 miles, Wotton at 4 miles, crown at 7.2 miles, and Gaithersburg at 9.7 miles...where is this came from? and not to mention Gaithersburg is overcapacity....= =

Whats the driving time for Gaithersburg? Gaithersburg can send more to Crown.

That will depend on whether that bus needs to pick up Kentlands students along the way. But it feels very doable to me, and me and my cousins work in transportation logistics.

Gaithersburg ->Kentlands/Lakelands -> Crown? but really think Kentlands should stay in QO, it is walking distance.

Plus 1. kentlands/lakelands are walking zones to QO. It does not make sense to me to bus them either to Crown HS/Gaithersburg HS. That adds more costs to MCPS for busing services and also traffic jam.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish we could fast forward to September to see those "refined options"

There may be a Wayside to Gaithersburg option to make the Wootton option look better.

- Flo

Wayside to Gaitherburg option should have been there to start with. How will be the bus ride in this case? If it's longer than 25 minutes then it's an issue. As long as it's less than 25 minutes, it will work.

Wayside has Churchill at 2.4 miles, Wotton at 4 miles, crown at 7.2 miles, and Gaithersburg at 9.7 miles...where is this came from? and not to mention Gaithersburg is overcapacity....= =

Whats the driving time for Gaithersburg? Gaithersburg can send more to Crown.

That will depend on whether that bus needs to pick up Kentlands students along the way. But it feels very doable to me, and me and my cousins work in transportation logistics.

Gaithersburg ->Kentlands/Lakelands -> Crown? but really think Kentlands should stay in QO, it is walking distance.

Plus 1. kentlands/lakelands are walking zones to QO. It does not make sense to me to bus them either to Crown HS/Gaithersburg HS. That adds more costs to MCPS for busing services and also traffic jam.

Parts of Kentlands/Lakelands are walkable to QO.

If you map the walking distance from Four Corners Park to QO it's about 40 minutes. At that point, I think a bus would be preferable.

They could potentially split the neighborhood like they do with King Farm by Redland Road. Have a part go to Crown and the part closer to QO to QO.

Lakelands Middle School already split articulates to Northwest and QO. As well as schools like Diamond Elementary split articulating to Lakelands Park and Ridgeview. So there's already some kind of dividing line around that area, maybe not within Lakelands and Kentlands itself.

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Anonymous wrote:This is too long for me to read through, but why isn't Ritchie Park going to Wootton instead of Wayside? This would make all of Wayside drive past Horizon Hill to get to high school. Is this just MCPS being stubborn and not changing it back from the 80's/90's zoning issue?

They aren't going to move RPES out of RM because it has the lowest FARMs rate in the RM cluster.

-RPES resident

In options 2 and 4, (at least partial of) RPES is going to Crown.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish we could fast forward to September to see those "refined options"

There may be a Wayside to Gaithersburg option to make the Wootton option look better.

- Flo

Wayside to Gaitherburg option should have been there to start with. How will be the bus ride in this case? If it's longer than 25 minutes then it's an issue. As long as it's less than 25 minutes, it will work.

Wayside has Churchill at 2.4 miles, Wotton at 4 miles, crown at 7.2 miles, and Gaithersburg at 9.7 miles...where is this came from? and not to mention Gaithersburg is overcapacity....= =

Whats the driving time for Gaithersburg? Gaithersburg can send more to Crown.

That will depend on whether that bus needs to pick up Kentlands students along the way. But it feels very doable to me, and me and my cousins work in transportation logistics.

Gaithersburg ->Kentlands/Lakelands -> Crown? but really think Kentlands should stay in QO, it is walking distance.

Plus 1. kentlands/lakelands are walking zones to QO. It does not make sense to me to bus them either to Crown HS/Gaithersburg HS. That adds more costs to MCPS for busing services and also traffic jam.

Parts of Kentlands/Lakelands are walkable to QO.

If you map the walking distance from Four Corners Park to QO it's about 40 minutes. At that point, I think a bus would be preferable.

They could potentially split the neighborhood like they do with King Farm by Redland Road. Have a part go to Crown and the part closer to QO to QO.

Lakelands Middle School already split articulates to Northwest and QO. As well as schools like Diamond Elementary split articulating to Lakelands Park and Ridgeview. So there's already some kind of dividing line around that area, maybe not within Lakelands and Kentlands itself.

Maybe they could achieve a setup where all of the Lakelands MS goes to Crown and all of Ridgeview MS goes to QO, to minimize splits. Some ppl might love, others might not. An idea.

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Anonymous wrote:This is too long for me to read through, but why isn't Ritchie Park going to Wootton instead of Wayside? This would make all of Wayside drive past Horizon Hill to get to high school. Is this just MCPS being stubborn and not changing it back from the 80's/90's zoning issue?

They aren't going to move RPES out of RM because it has the lowest FARMs rate in the RM cluster.

-RPES resident

In options 2 and 4, (at least partial of) RPES is going to Crown.

Yes, those are the moron options. Option 2 screws over the rest of RPES horribly as a hate crime and then Option 4 is bad all over the place.

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Anonymous wrote:This is too long for me to read through, but why isn't Ritchie Park going to Wootton instead of Wayside? This would make all of Wayside drive past Horizon Hill to get to high school. Is this just MCPS being stubborn and not changing it back from the 80's/90's zoning issue?

They aren't going to move RPES out of RM because it has the lowest FARMs rate in the RM cluster.

-RPES resident

In options 2 and 4, (at least partial of) RPES is going to Crown.

You are correct. I guess I was thinking Horizon Hill. Someone keep asking why they didn't have HH going to Wootton.

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Anonymous wrote:This is too long for me to read through, but why isn't Ritchie Park going to Wootton instead of Wayside? This would make all of Wayside drive past Horizon Hill to get to high school. Is this just MCPS being stubborn and not changing it back from the 80's/90's zoning issue?

They aren't going to move RPES out of RM because it has the lowest FARMs rate in the RM cluster.

-RPES resident

In options 2 and 4, (at least partial of) RPES is going to Crown.

Yes, those are the moron options. Option 2 screws over the rest of RPES horribly as a hate crime and then Option 4 is bad all over the place.

huh? explain.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish we could fast forward to September to see those "refined options"

There may be a Wayside to Gaithersburg option to make the Wootton option look better.

- Flo

Wayside to Gaitherburg option should have been there to start with. How will be the bus ride in this case? If it's longer than 25 minutes then it's an issue. As long as it's less than 25 minutes, it will work.

Wayside has Churchill at 2.4 miles, Wotton at 4 miles, crown at 7.2 miles, and Gaithersburg at 9.7 miles...where is this came from? and not to mention Gaithersburg is overcapacity....= =

Whats the driving time for Gaithersburg? Gaithersburg can send more to Crown.

That will depend on whether that bus needs to pick up Kentlands students along the way. But it feels very doable to me, and me and my cousins work in transportation logistics.

Gaithersburg ->Kentlands/Lakelands -> Crown? but really think Kentlands should stay in QO, it is walking distance.

Plus 1. kentlands/lakelands are walking zones to QO. It does not make sense to me to bus them either to Crown HS/Gaithersburg HS. That adds more costs to MCPS for busing services and also traffic jam.

Parts of Kentlands/Lakelands are walkable to QO.

If you map the walking distance from Four Corners Park to QO it's about 40 minutes. At that point, I think a bus would be preferable.

They could potentially split the neighborhood like they do with King Farm by Redland Road. Have a part go to Crown and the part closer to QO to QO.

Lakelands Middle School already split articulates to Northwest and QO. As well as schools like Diamond Elementary split articulating to Lakelands Park and Ridgeview. So there's already some kind of dividing line around that area, maybe not within Lakelands and Kentlands itself.

Maybe they could achieve a setup where all of the Lakelands MS goes to Crown and all of Ridgeview MS goes to QO, to minimize splits. Some ppl might love, others might not. An idea.

Yeah part of the whole issue is that QO is one of the schools in the immediate area projected with the largest percentage of being over capacity, with -431 seats or 124%. So it would kind of make sense that they take areas out of QO to go into Crown.

They don't really need to add any new areas to QO, unless it's to try to balance demographics and alleviate some from neighboring areas. ie since they'll be losing a good portion of it's FARMS population to Crown, they can pick some up from Northwest or possibly Gaithersburg HS.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish we could fast forward to September to see those "refined options"

There may be a Wayside to Gaithersburg option to make the Wootton option look better.

- Flo

Wayside to Gaitherburg option should have been there to start with. How will be the bus ride in this case? If it's longer than 25 minutes then it's an issue. As long as it's less than 25 minutes, it will work.

Wayside has Churchill at 2.4 miles, Wotton at 4 miles, crown at 7.2 miles, and Gaithersburg at 9.7 miles...where is this came from? and not to mention Gaithersburg is overcapacity....= =

Whats the driving time for Gaithersburg? Gaithersburg can send more to Crown.

That will depend on whether that bus needs to pick up Kentlands students along the way. But it feels very doable to me, and me and my cousins work in transportation logistics.

Gaithersburg ->Kentlands/Lakelands -> Crown? but really think Kentlands should stay in QO, it is walking distance.

Plus 1. kentlands/lakelands are walking zones to QO. It does not make sense to me to bus them either to Crown HS/Gaithersburg HS. That adds more costs to MCPS for busing services and also traffic jam.

Parts of Kentlands/Lakelands are walkable to QO.

If you map the walking distance from Four Corners Park to QO it's about 40 minutes. At that point, I think a bus would be preferable.

They could potentially split the neighborhood like they do with King Farm by Redland Road. Have a part go to Crown and the part closer to QO to QO.

Lakelands Middle School already split articulates to Northwest and QO. As well as schools like Diamond Elementary split articulating to Lakelands Park and Ridgeview. So there's already some kind of dividing line around that area, maybe not within Lakelands and Kentlands itself.

There is no dividing line in Kentlands or Lakelands. Part of why Rachel Carson ES was so desperately overcrowded in the past was because people overwhelmingly did not want any part of those neighborhoods divided. They wanted the whole of both neighborhoods to be zoned together. Regardless of whether most people would actually walk more than 40 minutes to school, Lakelands doesn’t get bused to QO. We’re all classified as being in the walk zone.